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The history of Socialism!

 
Sharty Mc Bean
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The history of Socialism!
very interesting film!

HOUR 1: THE RISE
HOUR 2: REVOLUTIONS
HOUR 3: THE COLLAPSE




Socialism became the most popular political idea in history. Its provenance was European, but it spread to China and Africa, India and Latin America and even to that most tradition-bound of regions, the Middle East. While it never fully took root in America, its influence shaped the nation's political debate. At its crest in the 1970s, roughly 60 percent of the earth's population lived under governments that espoused socialism in one form or another. Then, suddenly, it all collapsed.
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found the wiki site of this documentary film

Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism

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its a few years old but its good.
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socialism
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:socialism:
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lol very good educational picture which shows they are all forms of Socialism.
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pin this shit!


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socialism
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lol very good educational picture which shows they are all forms of Socialism.
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No, "National Socialism" is NOT a Form of Socialism. They just called it "National SOCIALISM" to Get the Votes of the Workers.
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thx for pin!

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Socialism requires managers which are exempt from the rules of socialism for everyone else.
The managers need to present to others that they are much more intelligent than anyone else, and are only a relatively small number within the population to be controlled.
Sound like anyone you know to be 'chosen' for such task and intellectually superior exempt social managers of others?
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:socialism:
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lol very good educational picture which shows they are all forms of Socialism.
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No, "National Socialism" is NOT a Form of Socialism. They just called it "National SOCIALISM" to Get the Votes of the Workers.
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Commie party
Nazi party
Democrat party
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[link to townhall.com]

One of the greatest sources of confusion and deception is the difference between leftists, progressives, socialists, communists and fascists. I thought about this as I caught a glimpse of the Oct. 2 "One Nation" march on Washington. The participants proudly marched with banners, signs and placards reading "Socialists," "Ohio U Democratic Socialists," "International Socialists Organization," "Socialist Party USA," "Build A Socialist Alternative" and other signs expressing support for socialism and communism. They had stands where they sold booklets under the titles of "Marxism and the State," "Communist Manifesto," "Four Marxist Classics," "The Road to Socialism" and similar titles.

The gathering had the support of the AFL-CIO, Service Employees International Union, stalwarts of the Democratic Party such as Al Sharpton and organizations such as the NAACP, the National Council of La Raza, Green for All, the Sierra Club, and the Children's Defense Fund.

What goes unappreciated is that socialists and communists have produced the greatest evil in mankind's history. You say, "Williams, what in the world are you talking about? Socialists, communists and their fellow travelers care about the little guy in his struggle for a fair shake! They're trying to promote social justice." Let's look at some of the history of socialism and communism.

Nazism is a form of socialism. In fact, Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party. Nazis murdered 20 million of their own people and in nations they captured. The unspeakable acts of Adolf Hitler's Socialist Workers' Party pale in comparison to the horrors committed in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). Between 1917 and 1987, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and their successors murdered, or were otherwise responsible for the deaths of, 62 million of their own people. Between 1949 and 1987, Mao Tse-tung and his successors were responsible for the deaths of 76 million Chinese. The most authoritative tally of history's most murderous regimes is in a book by University of Hawaii's Professor Rudolph J. Rummel, "Death by Government." A wealth of information is provided at his website.
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All you have to know is that the American Communist party doesnt have a candidate of their own, they state that OBlather is perfect enough for them.
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All you have to know is that the American Communist party doesnt have a candidate of their own, they state that OBlather is perfect enough for them.
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Probably because they are rethinking whether they really want the government to own absolutely everything, as communism does. That can't be a modern viewpoint anymore since it has failed so often in history and brought so much suffering. They are probably Communist in name only, not in reality.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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All you have to know is that the American Communist party doesnt have a candidate of their own, they state that OBlather is perfect enough for them.
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Probably because they are rethinking whether they really want the government to own absolutely everything, as communism does. That can't be a modern viewpoint anymore since it has failed so often in history and brought so much suffering. They are probably Communist in name only, not in reality.
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Not at all, Ultracommander Bushmaster extraordinary Super Mandela Decendant of kings and Phayroes.
They are the same theyve ever been, your fevered race based imaginings not withstanding
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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You sure have no idea what you're talking about.

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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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You sure have no idea what you're talking about.

sbus
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That's not an argument, Drunken Stumbler.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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You sure have no idea what you're talking about.

sbus
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That's not an argument, Drunken Stumbler.
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:socialism:
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lol very good educational picture which shows they are all forms of Socialism.
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No, "National Socialism" is NOT a Form of Socialism. They just called it "National SOCIALISM" to Get the Votes of the Workers.
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Yes, yes it is. Hitler was heavily influenced by the ideas of Otto von Bismarck regarding the welfare state. He was interested in creating the best possible state for the German people, thus national socialism. The USSR on the other wanted a world wide revolution, thus internationalism. Of course, in reality, the USSR was not communist at all after Stalin came to power. It was state capitalist to the extreme. The people were stripped of their rights to move the largely feudal Russian system towards capitalism and to be exploited by the biggest corporation of them all, the state. "Communist" Russia is the biggest con of all time and the most successful too.
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:socialism:
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lol very good educational picture which shows they are all forms of Socialism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


No, "National Socialism" is NOT a Form of Socialism. They just called it "National SOCIALISM" to Get the Votes of the Workers.
 Quoting: 984857345


Yes, yes it is. Hitler was heavily influenced by the ideas of Otto von Bismarck regarding the welfare state. He was interested in creating the best possible state for the German people, thus national socialism. The USSR on the other wanted a world wide revolution, thus internationalism. Of course, in reality, the USSR was not communist at all after Stalin came to power. It was state capitalist to the extreme. The people were stripped of their rights to move the largely feudal Russian system towards capitalism and to be exploited by the biggest corporation of them all, the state. "Communist" Russia is the biggest con of all time and the most successful too.
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How refreshing to hear from someone that knows the topic.
Americans generally only want to discuss their opinions of interpretations of other peoples opinions and interpretations and totally ignore the mist basic and obvious concrete facts altogether.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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it only works because we make debt! and a lot of it!

so its really capitalism mixed with socialism now. socialism alone can and will never work.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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Which countries are you referring to that currently have socialism?
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Clearly communism doesn't work. Human nature wont allow it to work. In the end someone takes power. Worst case scenarios you get north korea and cuba type situations. But by that same token the system put into place a couple of hundred years ago is becoming strained today due to population explosion. We don't live in the same world that our forefathers did. Now a days the government is controlled by corporations and wealthy elite who have whored democracy into more of a aristocracy. With that said America as a republic has become harder to justify....
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25997290


it only works because we make debt! and a lot of it!

so its really capitalism mixed with socialism now. socialism alone can and will never work.
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capitalism is the basis of EVERY government, the only difference is how much of the benefit will be seen by the individual.
The USSR was capitalist FOR THE STATE AND IT'S CADRE OF MANAGERS. The people were there to be exploited and discarded.
And now it's come full circle, since the same group manage this nation, and have made the productive citizen into a profit center, so that the money once again flows to the managers and approved enterprizes, while the individual, no matter how productive is drowned in unpayable debts being generated in his name, but not for his benefit.
The soviet scam is now reborn and reprocessed into stealth socialism and permanent indentured servitude of the productive class, continually threatened by the welfare clients they provide sole support for.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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btw. i hate it! i pay 400€ a month in health insurance + the boss pays the same on top of that! thats 800€ a month. but i never been really sick in my life! i pay and pay and the fucking muzzie wellfare rats dont work dont pay and have more time are more often sick and receive the same care as i would. socialism claims everyone is equal but the opposite is the case! when you give shit for free the people will take it for free.
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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btw. i hate it! i pay 400€ a month in health insurance + the boss pays the same on top of that! thats 800€ a month. but i never been really sick in my life! i pay and pay and the fucking muzzie wellfare rats dont work dont pay and have more time are more often sick and receive the same care as i would. socialism claims everyone is equal but the opposite is the case! when you give shit for free the people will take it for free.
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semites helping other semites destroy a common enemy.

One thing at a time...
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socialism is a disease which covers political sphere with spectrum reach area mankind.
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2. Jehovih had said: A republic can not follow the highest Light; it followeth the majority. And a majority is, and was, and ever shall be, the lesser light.

3. Therefore, a republic is not the all highest government; and, since only the All Highest can triumph in the end, behold, and interpret ye what shall come to pass.

4. The C'chiefs said: But many understood not. Nevertheless, the Faithists had little in common with the Uzians.

5. The Faithists established a reciprocity betwen different colonies.

6. For, some were suited to agriculture and some to manufactures.

7. And they exchanged produce, so there was neither buying nor selling between them.

8. And it came to pass also, that, as some of the colonies were situated to the south, where it was warm, and some to the north, where it was cold, so the people went and sojourned in any place suited unto them, continuing their membership wherever they went.

9. Now, thus it did come to pass, in Jehovih's kingdom on earth, man was without a government, such as man's government.

10. And this was the next higher condition that came up after republics.

Jehovih's Kingdom on Earth, Chapter 26
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President Obama shamelessly lied about the attacks in Libya during the debate Tuesday night. He insisted that he and his administration had condemned them as terrorist attacks consistently since the day after the attack, and that he would not allow the deaths of our Ambassador and three other Americans to be used as a political football.

Anyone can read his Sept. 12 Rose Garden comments where he mentions "acts of terror," once, but it is not in reference to the Libyan attack. For the better part of a week, he and his administration portrayed this as a spontaneous uprising over a YouTube video. His U.N. ambassador went on the political news talk shows to say the same and Obama avoided referring to it as a terrorist act both in front of the U.N. and on the TV show "Live."

Why did he do this and why does it matter? It was to hide the fact that the U.S. embassy in Libya, in Libya of all places, did not have a Marine detachment and that Obama had not attended face-to-face intelligence briefings for the week leading up to Sept. 11, of all days that terrorists would most want to attack us.

This was a "Carter moment" for the president and he has used all of his powers to cover it up and talk around it until after election day. All Americans, regardless of political party, should be incensed at this crass election politicking by the president on such a sacred subject.


[link to www.courierpress.com]
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No matter where, no matter when, scratch a socialist and you find a talmudist. What can be the common ground?
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It's funny how socialism has been successful in many different countries and is working quite well for western Europe but Libertarianism has never worked anywhere at any time.
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socialism does not work

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