Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,462 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,048,977
Pageviews Today: 2,905,834Threads Today: 682Posts Today: 13,535
08:33 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

more about the Fatima apparitions..

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18800027
United States
02/17/2013 01:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
[link to www.fatimaondemand.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18800027
United States
02/17/2013 01:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
[link to www.fatimaondemand.org]
phantomfire707
User ID: 30361948
Canada
02/21/2013 11:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Are you at all interested in the 3Days of Darkness prophecies? They align with scripture in many books of the Old Testament. Talking about when the moon will turn blood red, and the sun black as ash clothe. Is the error which Russia would spread to the World strictly communism, or is it something else?
 Quoting: PEER 21008556



The 3 days of darkness happens quite near the end of the persecution (against Catholics!)

How long will the persecution last? At least 3 years.

In my opinion it will last much longer than people are expecting. Could last 13, 20 or even 30 years.

You must remember that a prophecy that mentions a `short persecution` can be `short` according to God's eye, yet seem fairly long according to human perception.


==============


Prophecy of Monaco Basilio of Kronstadt (St Petersburg, 1700):

"Christians will be numerous, but HAVE FORGOTTEN the law of Christ and their faith will be of words(instead of action). To the patriarchs: The bishop of Rome that bathes the earth with his blood, Heaven will entrust the task of bringing the church back to its origins. This will be the time to abandon the buildings for a return to humility, in the peace of the catacombs, to revive the church of the martyrs of the faith."

("I cristiani saranno numerosi, ma avranno dimenticato la legge cristiana e la loro fede sarà di parole. Ai patriarchi, al vescovo di Roma che bagnerà la terra con il suo sangue, il cielo affiderà il compito di riportare la chiesa alle origini. Sarà questo il momento di abbandonare i palazzi per ritornare nell'umiltà, nella pace delle catacombe, di rivivere la chiesa dei martiri della fede. La salvezza verrà da pochi, ma santi.")



Another prophecy from Monaco Basilio of Kronstadt:

-"When the bishop of Rome will take two names an empire will be about to collapse: one of blasphemy. But it would be folly to exult with joy, because it is not the end but the beginning of sorrows." ("Quando il vescovo di Roma assumerà due nomi un impero sarà prossimo a crollare: quello della bestemmia. Ma sarebbe follia esultare di gioia, perché non sarà la fine ma l'inizio dei dolori")




===============

God's judgement is coming. That which was foretold in Fatima, at La Salette, by Sister Aiello, Anna Marie Taigi, Premol, John Bosco, Edith Royer, Hildegard von Bingen, and others. My gut now tells me there is an 85% chance of divine providence lighting up the universe and shaking the world this year. Not even that far off. The truth is that only God knows with absolute certainty. But 85% chance feels quite right from what I seem to perceive. Woe to those that refuse to accept God's warnings. It is the ultimate moment to repent. After the warnings, the vileness of every sin will be magnified a thousand fold. After the warnings, you will have to embrace the teachings of Jesus wholeheartedly or you will be ejected wholeheartedly until you admit with your every action that there is no other path but Christ Jesus. I realize with great trepidation this warning applies fully to myself as well. Double woe to me, if I fail when failure is no longer accepted. The Malachy prophecy is true according to my seeming bit of apparent evidence. If the evidence is what it seems, attempts to undermine and destroy the prophecy with various forms of religious brainwashing may backfire greatly for a great many. Oh well, the blame falls on those that it may. You want to play the game, you can rightfully pay the piper and hope you didn't get pushed all in deceiving many, in extreme opposition to the truth. Justice is coming, and the sins from myself, from religious leaders, priests to Bishops, from prophets, the sins of the vast number of Catholics/Protestants/Orthodox/and Jews, are piling up to heaven like towering heaps of garbage....So high...that now every bag of stench added to the pile becomes new trash emptied into the Kingdom of Christ. How much longer can the kingdom endure it? With nearly all people pretending to serve God with words and empty gestures, pretending to believe that God is pleased with their beliefs and actions that only scratch the surface of the divine laws, the people are in reality unified in divorcing itself from God's ways. Finally when the manifestations arrive, the time has come for the people to find the simple and basic truth's. They are all in the Gospels. Christ's teachings are clear and simple, if you don't turn away. You will give God your face or you will turn around and give him your back? the choice is yours.

Jeremiah 2:27
"They have turned their backs to me and not their faces"

Jeremiah 32:33
"They turned their backs to me and not their faces; though I taught them again and again, they would not listen or respond to discipline."

Do not believe for one second that religious people of today respond to the teachings of God any better than the religious people of the prophet Jeremiah's day.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30361948
Canada
02/23/2013 12:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Conversely, that leaves a 15% chance for the flaming lightning sword...

that almost sets the world on fire...

to, at the last moment...

"die[s] out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiate[s]"


ONLY GOD KNOWS what happens at the last moment. Carry through or great reprieve?
phantomfire707
User ID: 30361948
Canada
02/23/2013 03:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
After St. Peter's Bascilica was struck by lightening twice
I Googled "does a lightning rod attract lightning"


The answer I found was: No, a lightning rod does not cause a building such as the Bascilica to be hit by lightning.


[link to kids.discovery.com]
"Lightning rods, first invented by Benjamin Franklin, do not attract lightning, although a lot of people think they do."


[link to www.weatherimagery.com]
"the lightning rod attached to your roof doesn’t really attract the lightning any more so than your roof or satellite dish do. If the lightning is close enough, your house was going to be hit anyway. But assuming you do have a lightning rod, the odds of lightning striking the rod instead of some other part of your house are increased"



[link to stormhighway.com]
"Lightning rods do not attract nor are they designed to attract lightning. Since the descending stepped leader of a lightning bolt doesn't 'decide what to strike' until it is very close to the ground, lightning will only strike a lightning rod system if it already happens to be in (or very close to) the lightning's path."
-"TRUTH: Lightning rods along with a full lightning protection system are designed to intercept a lightning strike that is already occuring to a structure"



At this time I view the lightning bolt from God as announcing the time of confusion for the Church is about to begin. The days of Fatima are about to commence (or so it seems), and the world will seethe with hatred against the truth from almost the first moment.
phantomfire707
User ID: 35445298
Canada
03/02/2013 07:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
FYI, The answers I wish to post will be given shortly after a new pope is elected.


(unless something relevant happens in the meantime).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 35331280
United States
03/02/2013 07:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
After St. Peter's Bascilica was struck by lightening twice
I Googled "does a lightning rod attract lightning"


The answer I found was: No, a lightning rod does not cause a building such as the Bascilica to be hit by lightning.


[link to kids.discovery.com]
"Lightning rods, first invented by Benjamin Franklin, do not attract lightning, although a lot of people think they do."


[link to www.weatherimagery.com]
"the lightning rod attached to your roof doesn’t really attract the lightning any more so than your roof or satellite dish do. If the lightning is close enough, your house was going to be hit anyway. But assuming you do have a lightning rod, the odds of lightning striking the rod instead of some other part of your house are increased"



[link to stormhighway.com]
"Lightning rods do not attract nor are they designed to attract lightning. Since the descending stepped leader of a lightning bolt doesn't 'decide what to strike' until it is very close to the ground, lightning will only strike a lightning rod system if it already happens to be in (or very close to) the lightning's path."
-"TRUTH: Lightning rods along with a full lightning protection system are designed to intercept a lightning strike that is already occuring to a structure"



At this time I view the lightning bolt from God as announcing the time of confusion for the Church is about to begin. The days of Fatima are about to commence (or so it seems), and the world will seethe with hatred against the truth from almost the first moment.
 Quoting: phantomfire707 30361948


It happened before
June 29, 1995
[link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com]

I do value your research.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 35445298
Canada
03/04/2013 04:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Thank you.


It happened before
June 29, 1995
[link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com]

I do value your research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35331280
phantomfire707
User ID: 36105109
Canada
03/13/2013 10:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
With Pope Francis getting elected, I am at peace. He seems to be one of the humble ones, from what I've read today. (chooses to sit in the back seat instead of front row seats).


Perhaps Pope Francis is indeed the Pope of prophecy. If not, no worry, the "Bishop of Rome" can be identified (regardless of everything else) when heaven prevents the world from snatching away his life...repeatedly...during a most perilous time. Than you can know for sure.


So if Pope Francis is the one, God will be with him, when the menace covers the world.

If my understanding is correct, Pope Benedict was not supposed to resign. But I'm not going to harp on that fact, what's done is done. I'd rather not explain my reasons for the belief. The Fact is, if God wanted to stop Pope Benedict from making the wrong choice, God could have intervened.

----------



I first became aware of the spiritual relevance of the number 777 after the stock market fell 777 points. That day could be considered as the first piece of the puzzle that was unveiled. Revelations is filled with God making use of 7 for judgement. (7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 bowls of wrath, etc), so it can be viewed as the number of God, or a number of divine judgement. Conspiracy theorists may provide a different interpretation.

I have encountered "777" about six times in a significant and seemingly meaningful way.

The last big piece of the puzzle uncovered in recent months, triggered a great internal debate within me....to reveal or not.

I can tell you this fact, the number 777 is present(encoded) in every year of the calendar in a way that ties together the number 777 with Fatima. In fact, it ties together the number 777 with the great warning of Fatima/with the big anniversary of Fatima/and with the solar miracle of Fatima/and with a major Saint. (My calculation is that the odds of this peculiar set of prophetic relations happening within the calendar are about 1 in 4000).



My dilemma is whether it is better for others(you all) to know it or not. If I reveal it you may say to yourself "this is actual hardcore evidence of Catholic prophecy" which is joyeous pleasant discovery (even if it is but a numerical illusion) HOWEVER, if I do reveal it, you may feel quite negative (oppressed even) about having to endure date setting that you encounter again and again with every new year. It may drive one crazy to know.

(If Padraig, Greg, Tim, Wildhoney, or FlyersFan believe they can handle the knowledge(maybe you can't), I would be willing to send the evidence to them to inspect in private(through the forums they use) that they may advise me whether or not I should reveal it here)

I will also note, that it has been brought to my attention recently on this website, that North Korea tore up it's armistice treaty with South Korea on March 11th, 2013 which was twenty one thousand and "777" days since the treaty was signed (July 27, 1953).


------

You (anyone)(perhaps no one will) have seven days to advise me whether I should keep this "perpetual date-setting sign" to myself(it may be very harmful) or to reveal the 777 + Fatima warning connection encoded in each year of the calendar. If you advise, I want to know your forum identity (those that make any money from the topic of prophecy do not get a vote, nor do those I may suspect of exploitation of the info). If the sign is true, and not a trick of the numbers, it reveals the date of the Fatima warning but not the year.

Whatever I do decide to post that I couldn't in the past, and in reaction to all recent events, will be submitted in seven or eight days. (on this site or the other site if I can't post here.)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1411661
Spain
03/13/2013 11:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
I am extremely pleased.
1.Italian ..ok born in Argentina but blood is thicker than water :)
2. Named after my favorite Saint St. Francis :)
3. Read he might be member of Opus Dei :)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1411661
Spain
03/14/2013 12:06 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
hey Popes have always been Italian no?
cheer

except couple of times
wildhoney (OP)

User ID: 1411661
Spain
03/14/2013 12:11 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..

Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36105109
Canada
03/14/2013 08:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
I am deeply and truly sorry for any and all heartache my posts have caused over the last few years.

I hope with the new Pope, the healing process can begin.

God Bless and I wish you all well.





pf707.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36105109
Canada
03/14/2013 08:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
(ps: that was not yet the final post).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 13636777
United States
03/14/2013 08:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
The following year she was sheparding her sheep again..this time with her cousins Jacinta and Francisco..
Again they stopped to eat..and pray the Rosary..and again..one year later..the figure in white appeared..

Remember she was only about 8 when this happened..bare this in mind when she repeats what the figure in white tells her..

.they saw that the figure in white was a young man about 14 y.o and very beautiful..he was white and shone like crystal when the sun shines through it..and this is what the young man said..

Do not be afraid..I am the Angel of Peace.Pray with me

And he knelt on the ground..and loweredd his forehead till it touched the ground..and made them repeat these words:

..My God,I believe, I adore,I hope, and I Love you! I ask pardon of You for those who do not believe,do not adore,do not hope and do not love You

And then he rose and said

..Pray thus.The hearts of Jesus and Mary are attentive to the voice of your supplications..

And then he disappeared
 Quoting: wildhoney


because 8 year olds always tell the truth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36105109
Canada
03/14/2013 09:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
I must withhold my final post until I am one hundred percent certain the terrible storm for this month has truly passed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36105109
Canada
03/14/2013 10:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
[link to www.thestar.com]
-"Pope Francis began the day by shunning the papal limousine and choosing instead a more modest car to go pray at a local church."
-"One of Pope Francis’ first papal acts Thursday was to pay his own hotel bill – a simple gesture that likely sent shivers down the spines of pampered Vatican officials...“This morning he paid his (hotel) fee – he was not obliged to do so,” said a surprised Cardinal Jean-Claude Turcotte, Archbishop Emeritus of Montreal.
“He was there at 9, all dressed in white. And the kitchen personnel and those who did the washing and so forth went crazy like hell,” Turcotte said in an interview.
Turcotte, 76, called it one of the “little signs that he will be a pope close to poor people.” Vatican spokesperson Rev. Thomas Rosica said Pope Francis “was concerned about giving a good example about what priests and bishops should do.”"



I Love it! All good signs so far.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21500116
Canada
03/14/2013 11:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..

 Quoting: wildhoney


happyheartblwkss
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21500116
Canada
03/14/2013 12:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..

 Quoting: wildhoney


Anonymous Coward
User ID: 29221359
United States
03/14/2013 03:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Fatima in my opinion is amongst the most relevant and important apparitions of Our Lady..

Fatima directly connected to end time prophecy..?
 Quoting: wildhoney


oh yeah......you'd better believe it!

Much better to pray to Mary and hope for a vision of her than to follow the true, Great I AM.

Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me: seeing you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children.
 Quoting: Shamar


You don't have to believe it.

It may not relate to you.

Nowhere in the Third Secret of Fatima does it mention

end times, or end of time.

I believe it.

The Third Secret of Fatima relates to the Catholic

and Christian Church. It is a warning about the coming

difficulties for the Church. I believe it and I also

believe it doesn't related directly to me, yet I still

believe it is a "spiritual warning" given by the spiritual

world to this physical world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18257063
United States
03/19/2013 04:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
hfhfhf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36417394
United States
03/19/2013 04:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Perhaps the proclamation of Jesus' Mother as 'Co-Redeptrix' will happen during the reign of this, supposedly the final Pope.

Cardinal Jorge's elevation to the Papacy fooled most as to the fulfillment of "Petrus Romanus," but since he was a Jesuit apparently that sufficed.


As for Fatima, whatever was revealed as the "3rd Secret" really fell short for the all the hype about it, to the extent that many believe it is false. There are apparently many who believe that the Consecration of the Mother to Russia has yet to occur, I thought that was over?

In any event, we had been told that the 20th Century was to culminate in Satan's defeat, that clearly has not happened and we are in the 21st. The Book of Revelation states that the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of Israel, but these days the latest DNA evidence proves that those now within Israel are all Khazarians.


"He who overcomes shall inherit all things."

Until that person does, life goes on and prophecies come and go.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36498655
Canada
03/20/2013 02:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
I will post here this Saturday afternoon (EST time).

(or at the other site if access is denied here)


From Saturday, I will post something every day until I have finished.






pf707
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36498655
Canada
03/20/2013 02:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
The doom for this month did not manifest as I expected.
qqq
User ID: 8371595
United States
03/20/2013 02:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Bookmark
707
User ID: 36498655
Canada
03/23/2013 01:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
My intention is to post about some of the more obscure and surprising information that I have examined.


This final series of posts will include One primary post a day.

It might last five days or I may have accumulated enough information and unique idea's to stretch it out for 15 days or more. At this point I'm not entirely sure which facts, interpretations, observations and experiences I wish to include. Will take it one day at a time.


Hope this will be a pleasant and enlightening read without compromising the truth.



-------------------

DAY 1


Pope Francis!

The world's first non-European Roman Catholic Pope in over 1200 years.

Does it matter?

All the information available to the public regarding Fatima has been examined and discussed that you may naturally assume that there are no more clues about the third secret for the "Fatima experts" to uncover. Not the case.


At least one more clue left behind by Pope John Paul II exists.


I will post it right now.
[link to books.google.ca]
Pope John Paul II stated: "And what are we to say of the three children from Fatima who suddenly, on the eve of the outbreak of the October Revolution, heard: "Russia will convert"....Perhaps this is also why the Pope was called from "a faraway country," perhaps this is why it was necessary for the assassination attempt to be made in St. Peter's Square precisely on May 13, 1981, the anniversary of the first apparition at Fatima--so that all could become more transparent and comprehensible, so that the voice of God which speaks in human history through the 'signs of the times' could be more easily heard and understood.""(Crossing the Threshold of Hope, Pope JPII, pg 131 - 132)



Did you clearly notice?

Pope JPII was listing various signs manifested regarding the Fatima prophecies and included in the list a quote about a Pope from "a faraway country" as one of those signs.


Therefore, I must conclude that there is a very high possibility that the Third Secret of Fatima mentions a future Pope from "a faraway country."


We can state with total certainty that Pope Francis indeed comes from a place very far away from Rome. Much farther away than Poland. As already mentioned Bishop Bergoglio was in fact the first person chosen to be Pope outside of Europe in over 1200 years.


My understanding is that Pope John Paul II clearly believed he was one of the good Popes mentioned by the Fatima Secret, I also believe that Heaven wanted him to think exactly that, so the Church would become more aware of the events that transpired at Fatima.


I wonder, and wonder.....is this Pope from faraway Argentina finally the Pope referred to in the Secret? A pope that embraces poverty and humility, a Pope of the slums, that may if he continues on this course of shunning the glitter of the Church....end up selling off many of the prized assets of the Vatican in order to literally feed the starving people.

Of course it is not merely the literal feeding of food that is instructed by God, but of spiritual food. Yet we see initial signs from this Pope that he has the potential of unburdening the Vatican of million dollar paintings created by the likes of Michelangelo so that the people with no food can eat during the chastisement.


[link to www.ctvnews.ca]
Pope Francis revered as 'slum pope' by poor Argentines
Judethz
Israel is Eternal

User ID: 20521597
United Kingdom
03/23/2013 01:50 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
grizzy You Catholics had better check this out. LAST^ RITES... [link to www.chick.com]
707
User ID: 36498655
Canada
03/24/2013 12:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Day 2.


the prophecies I am captivated by typically focus on two popes.

The first Pope is the "persecuted" Pope. (He witnesses the revolution/invasion and flees for his life)
The second Pope is the successor that guides the boat directly into or almost into the period of peace.

If Pope Benedict XVI passed away instead of resigning, it would have been clear by now that he was not yet the persecuted Pope mentioned in prophecy.

It makes a huge difference toward recognizing the truth when TSHTF whether Pope Francis is the first Pope or the second Pope according to prophecy.

The true identity of the persecuted Pope, makes all the difference on how people would perceive the Pope that succeeds Pope Francis.

======


Let us examine a completely obscured detail of the La Salette Secret shall we.

Within the two Secrets of La Salette written in 1851 (one by Maximin Giraud and one by Melanie Mathieu), the secrets contain the word "Pope"("Pape") a total of three times:

1. "Then, after [that], our Holy Father the Pope will be persecuted." ("Puis, après [cela], notre Saint-Père le pape sera persecuté.")
2. "The pope will be persecuted from all sides" ("Le pape sera persecuté de toutes parts")
3. "I pray to Our Holy Father the Pope to give me his holy blessing." ("Je prie Notre Saint Père le Pape de me donner sa sainte bénédiction.")



So when the Mother Mary wishes to speak of the Pope, she stated clearly the word Pope(Pape)

HOWEVER, in the translation of these secrets we find the world "pontiff" used once.



As it happens to be, despite the perception, the word "Pontiff" is not the same as the word Pope. A Pope is a Pope but a pontiff refers to a Bishop as well as a Pope:

[link to www.catholicreference.net]
"pontiff - High priest, and therefore any bishop, as successor of the Apostles. Now reserved as the title of the Pope."

[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]
"pon·tiff
a. The pope.
b. A bishop."


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Pontiff - The term "pontiff" was later applied to any high or chief priest and, in Christian ecclesiastical usage, to a bishop and more particularly to the Bishop of Rome, the Pope or 'Roman Pontiff'"




Therefore, the La Salette prophecy actually states two possible messages here:

1. "our Holy Father the Pope will be persecuted. His successor will be a POPE(pontiff) that nobody expects."

2. -OR- "His successor will be a BISHOP that nobody expects."


What is really amazing is that when pretty much everybody is thinking in terms of that successor Pope from these prophecies as being precisely a future "Pope" at the time of the initial fulfillment, Our lady of Fatima gives a vision to three uneducated children about not a Pope but instead of a "Bishop dressed in white".


Everyone, INCLUDING MYSELF, jumped to the obvious assumption that the "Bishop" wasn't really a Bishop in the vision. Yet it seems that a Bishop in a prophecy can indeed be a Bishop.


Whether his prophecy was true or not, I owe this perceptual shift regarding the "pontiff that nobody expects", on the words by "Duke Puntalangit." It took me about 22 months from reading his alleged "prophecy"(which was: "A bishop he shall be when crowned and shall ascend, an ordinary coming from the bottom")...I repeat 22 months of knowing and thinking about Duke's prophecy....until I actually checked the meaning of the word pontiff and realized the La Salette secret could actually refer to a prophecy about a Bishop. An interpretation astonishingly bolstered by the vision of Fatima.


Why is this future Pope only a "Bishop" at the time?

It would probably be due to the sequence of events starting with the First Pope being ousted from Rome, followed by the persecution that has a stranglehold over most of the Cardinals of the Church (consider imprisonment, death, and schism involving the Cardinals)(Bishop against Bishop, Cardinal against Cardinal). And when this first persecuted Pope dies, the underground true Church finds it impossible for a Pope to be canonically elected.


After the physical fleeing of the first Pope from Vatican City as a result of the soldiers/rebellion/governments the secular world/Italian government/Russians/or less likely the Muslims or some combination of them, shall install their own illegitimate modern anti-Pope inside the Vatican walls.

After Pope Francis(if indeed it is he) was exiled and the Vatican is conquered by force, and immediately after Pope Francis died....if it was impossible for a new Pope to be elected because of the persecution, would the Catholic Church remain without a head?


I indeed accept some of the prophecies that speak of anti-Popes and of a "bad priest" that inflicts great damage upon the Church regarding this entire period.


If Pope Benedict XVI did not remove himself from the picture and let someone else take his place legitimately, perhaps due to prophetic considerations regarding his successor, it could have been that God might have raised soon by miraculous means in front of the whole world some person or several to be Bishops (not a Pope), that Pope Benedect XVI himself would have made that person a Bishop after the events transpired and that this Bishop would have been very obedient to Pope Benedict XVI. Pope Benedict XVI did not stick around to wait for that possible outcome.


On the flip side I was brutally aware of a prophecy that made it extremely difficult to discern whether such a Bishop that rises up to the Popes feet is a Fatima Bishop or whether such a person would have been a critical tool of Satan.

...I was absolutely and acutely aware of both possible realities.


Personally, I believe this obscure interpretation of a future "Bishop in white" is the correct interpretation.

Also I believe the following prophecy about the Bishop of Rome taking a second name refers to the "Bishop" in the Fatima Secret receiving his papal name as the 2nd name.

from Monaco Basilio of Kronstadt (St Petersburg, 1700): "When the bishop of Rome will take two names an empire will be about to collapse: one of blasphemy. But it would be folly to exult with joy, because it is not the end but the beginning of sorrows." ("Quando il vescovo di Roma assumerà due nomi un impero sarà prossimo a crollare: quello della bestemmia. Ma sarebbe follia esultare di gioia, perché non sarà la fine ma l'inizio dei dolori")


In the marrow of my bones, I sense that his second name will be the name Pope Fatima. A name that serves as a divine function that glorifies Our Lady of Fatima and all her warnings to the world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 36776218
Spain
03/24/2013 01:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
:grizzy: You Catholics had better check this out. LAST^ RITES... [link to www.chick.com]
 Quoting: Judethz


oh yes we are definitely going to be swayed in our beliefs by what you suggest..chuckle
Stefan Parlow

User ID: 1068734
Austria
03/24/2013 01:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
The 3 day- and night darkness will be the end of the 3. World War. Then starts the 41/42 months of NWO.

“I will give you a 3-day day and night darkness. When this darkness comes, lay down, rest and sleep during that time. You need this time. The earth will awake anew in this time. In addition, your body forms anew in this time. Big joy waits for you. You are born anew. You will shine anew. There comes a new time.” (Jesus Christ; 03 03 26)

There are many prophecies about the 3-day day and night darkness; however, I would like to mark that the updated words of Christ differ completely from the traditional communications. All old traditional prophecies and media announcements always spoke of an awful time.
One should not leave the house, who leaves the house would die, one should seal the windows, only consecrated (?) candles would burn, one may not look out of the window, one would hear the picking up of the souls, etc. (n.: All these tips give the impression of step by step instructions in a kit for children. Your higher self leads you anyhow in every situation into the right direction for the fulfilment of the life plan.)

I pass a gigantic billboard. It illustrates an enterprise of the illuminate, well known to me. It appears like a king's throne. Even a sign of the illuminate was for years in their company sign. I see the figures 41 and 42 and I know in the second that these mean months. The illuminates will rule 41 or 42 months. The world government will last so long, but no longer. (Vision; 04 04 11)

“Many will be shocked, if they will still live in a world of the polarity after their change (n.: ascension).” (Jesus
Christ; 04 07 16)

The first people that ascend will do it by rapture. Besides, these people will leave the earth. The second ascension wave occurs with the 3-day day and night darkness. (De facto, it is a comatose state - however, without cellular consciousness.) The majority of the people will not ascend so far. I.e. that the ascended ones will still live in the sphere of the 3-rd dimension, although their consciousness will already swing in the 5-th dimension. They will consciously realize that they are multidimensional beings. The Golden Age successively starts already with the first ascension wave, however, in principle this will not affect much change on the international situation. Only the subjective feeling of the ascended will be different. Logically, the contrasts will become even bigger by the different oscillation frequency of the people. To experience the world domination of the “New World Government” ("NWO") will be no picnic. It will last from 41 to 42 months (3 ½ years). The John´s Revelation mentions also this period.

detailed information: [link to christus-spricht.com]

News