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more about the Fatima apparitions..

 
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Catholics all over the world recite the following prayer not even realizing that it came from the Fatima apparitions:
"O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Your Mercy".
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Catholics all over the world recite the following prayer not even realizing that it came from the Fatima apparitions:
"O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Your Mercy".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25960158



ohyeahdamneddamneddamneddamned
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
yes this apparition is very intresting, but do we know which were the secrets?? as far as i heard only the pope was allowed to hear the 3 secrets or so, can you explaon more OP? :D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25767253


It seems the third secret was to be read by the Pope..
The Pope allegedly read it..
Some say it was to be communicated to the world
Others say it wasnt
 Quoting: wildhoney

but what was it about???

can you tell us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25767253


Does it really matter?
The important thing imo is to try to be Holy..to resist temptation..to try to be Saintly..we can achieve this..if we try..
To repent..to pray..to ask for forgiveness....to try to and hopefully achieve to become Saints..

She says Her Immaculate Heart will triumph..so isnt that sufficient?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Catholics all over the world recite the following prayer not even realizing that it came from the Fatima apparitions:
"O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Your Mercy".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25960158


I didnt know this till I read it.
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Thread: Bad weather forces the removal of believers from the Sanctuary of Lourdes!!!
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Fatima is a message of hope becsuse She said Her Immaculate Heart would triumph..so why the fear?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Hihf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Hello my friend!hf
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Hello my friend!hf
 Quoting: Luisport


Just speculating here..could it be that the Pope chose Benedict because now is the fulfillment of the alleged for some prophecy contained in the Fatima apparitions?
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Nah..ill post it now..
Lots to write here..read carefully to those that think its satan or aliens.

He appeared a third time..
He was holding the chalice in his left hand with the Host suspended above it..from which some drops of Blood fell into the chalice..leaving the chalice suspended in the air..the angel knelt down. Esides the childrenand made them repeat three times the following..
 Quoting: wildhoney


I have to leave right now, but I want to share something for those who adhere to the "holy eucharist" theory..........
 Quoting: Shamar


It is pretty amazing that our own body changes the food we receive daily into sustenance to be sent to various parts of our body, where the nutrients are needed.

Why then would not God "SPIRITUALLY" DO THE SAME FOR THE OUR SPIRITUAL HEALTH OF OUR SOUL by feeding us SPIRITUAL FOOD?
 Quoting: Angel Helper


What is even more amazing is how our Eternal Father provides for us without the need of mortal hands and mumbo-jumbo words. (read Exodus 16).

Spiritual food for spiritual needs......yep, he provides and he doesn't need a man to perform a spiritual alchemic procedure to make it happen, lol, as IF that COULD happen.......hah.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Hello Wildhoneyhappyhearthappyheart Both of my parents saw Mary before they went on to be with the Lord. Mary was and still is revered by Catholics for the humility she displayed. Luke 1 The Magnificat: Mary’s Song of Praise

46Mary responded,

“Oh, how my soul praises the Lord.

47How my spirit rejoices in God my Savior!

48For he took notice of his lowly servant girl,

and from now on all generations will call me blessed. Mary to was a prophetess and verse 48 was one of her prophecies. The Lord honored her for her humility towards Him and His creation. The Lord does and will honor all who choose to be like Himself and we know Jesus is humble, always was always will be. Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. ...This is the Jesus I serve and know. Those who know the Lord will display this trait of His, in word and deed. Mary knew the Lord and all generations remember her even to this day, yes she was a prophetess indeed. Mary does not draw souls to herself she draws them to her Son Jesus.
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Hello Wildhoneyhappyhearthappyheart Both of my parents saw Mary before they went on to be with the Lord. Mary was and still is revered by Catholics for the humility she displayed. Luke 1 The Magnificat: Mary’s Song of Praise

46Mary responded,

“Oh, how my soul praises the Lord.

47How my spirit rejoices in God my Savior!

48For he took notice of his lowly servant girl,

and from now on all generations will call me blessed. Mary to was a prophetess and verse 48 was one of her prophecies. The Lord honored her for her humility towards Him and His creation. The Lord does and will honor all who choose to be like Himself and we know Jesus is humble, always was always will be. Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. ...This is the Jesus I serve and know. Those who know the Lord will display this trait of His, in word and deed. Mary knew the Lord and all generations remember her even to this day, yes she was a prophetess indeed. Mary does not draw souls to herself she draws them to her Son Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21500116

Your parents were blessed..that must have given them peace..how wonderful!

My father saw an angel the night before he died..an angel thst said to him that the day after he was going to have to go through a trial..a test..but to not worry as all would be well..and he would be well again..
And the day after he died..unepectedly..as his body markers were ok..he died very very peacefully..

Also when he was in hospital all the nurses used to comment to me
that his room used to smell of flowers..like rosees
Thank youhf
How can one Love the Son and not Love and Honour the Mother that gave birth to Him..and cared for Him..?
I honestly just don't get it..
To go out of ones way to ignore Her as some do..as if She was just a circumstantial accident?
To me it smacks of mysoginism..

And sometimes I sense hatred..hatred towards Her..how on earth can anyone do anything but Love Her?

Last Edited by wildhoney on 10/22/2012 02:27 AM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Yes humility in both Jesus and His Mother..
He washed the disciples feet to underline this and to teach them and others to be humble..because if He washed the feet of the apostles..something reserved for the lowliest of slaves..how can anyone exalt themselves who profess to be His follower..

And His Mother..who had to suffer in silence the initial doubt of Joseph regarding Her Honor..and knew She could have faced stoning to death if rebuked by him..
But She had faith..and was silent as She was told to be and let the Angel defend Her and explain th Immaculate Conception to Joseph
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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As to Shamar..you may not believe in the Miracle of tbe Holy Eucharist..we Catholics do..i have a thread about it..with several utubes explaining reported miracles regarding it..

I personally am still pondering how all the animals got into that ark

And why would God have a punch up with someone..and lose the fight..and then change the guys name as a result..just some of my many doubts

I believe in the Immaculate Conception because it makes sense..as God had to be the Father..and God is Spirit..and he is all powerful..all creation is born from Him..to think He needed the sperm of a man who He had created in order to manifest life..is ridiculous in my opinion..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Christ turned water into wine..He Resureccted from the dead..and so many more miracles

So why on earth cant He turn wine into His Blood and bred into His body?
He is Christ..He can do anything..this limited reality is nothing when faced with His power..and He has power over all of it..including bread and wine..:-)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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One chooses wether to live by Faith or by reason...
According to reason..only what our senses percieve is real..and only what logic and reason can explain or ratify is correct..but that leaves so much out..and turned life into a flat line existence imo..

I live by Faith..all I do is inspired by Faith..it isnt easy in this reality..but it is so much rewarding...because there is no limit to anything..its freedom in its purest sense..:-)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Sr Lucia is now expressing the Immaculate Heart in her OWN apparitions. She appeared to me on a box of Corn Flakes one morning at the breakfast table.

She said, "My Child, Tell the world the Fatima Apparitions, were real and DID, in fact reflect End times as Spirit knew them to be during the period when Jacinta and Francisco and I were still very young. Yet, the paradigm was shifted with prayer and circumstance so the messages are now to be regarded in totality." She was wearing a light blue smock.

Then she said, "Go to the gate of the City, there you will find a donkey." Finally she said, "the next time I appear on your box of Corn Flakes, it must be free of GMO's."

And then almost as an afterthought she said, "It is not that we need a new Pope, it is that the Pope must be made NEW. He must allow clergy to marry. She then asked for a sip of my coffee and vanished.
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As to Shamar..you may not believe in the Miracle of tbe Holy Eucharist..we Catholics do..i have a thread about it..with several utubes explaining reported miracles regarding it..

I personally am still pondering how all the animals got into that ark

And why would God have a punch up with someone..and lose the fight..and then change the guys name as a result..just some of my many doubts

I believe in the Immaculate Conception because it makes sense..as God had to be the Father..and God is Spirit..and he is all powerful..all creation is born from Him..to think He needed the sperm of a man who He had created in order to manifest life..is ridiculous in my opinion..
 Quoting: wildhoney






In former times, some Occultists, more black than white, were curious enough to go to specific Masses, on the great days of Christmas or Easter, in one of the large Parisian metropolitan churches. At the moment of Elevation, when the celebrant elevated the Host, then the Cup, they would go to the axis of the nave, at the far end, by the doors. At that precise instant they would expose a crystal ball, that classic instrument of clairvoyance and a powerful psychic condenser, which had previously been immersed in clear running water, to empty it of all previously accumulated radiation. Immediately afterwards they would cover it again in a square of black silk, a good isolator.

Upon retuning home, they submitted the crystal ball to the psychic75 examination of proven seers or seeresses. Every time these seers saw the crystal ball glow red like a ruby.
Every time the phenomenon faded little by little, and disappeared totally at the end of around ten to twelve hours. The seers never saw ordinary balls (presented to them as proof), which had not been exposed to the Holy Species, presenting this strange phenomenon.

Who could still believe in front of such facts that the Christian Eucharist is just a memorial

Spiritual Alchemy –Translated Piers A. Vaughan © May 2005

MY COMMENT:

Who can still believe that the true presence of the Most High is commanded down to be contained in a wafer? Who can honestly believe that black magik practitioners could BEHOLD the presence of the Most High and NOT BE DESTROYED!???

Last Edited by Shamar on 10/22/2012 11:20 AM
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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One chooses wether to live by Faith or by reason...
According to reason..only what our senses percieve is real..and only what logic and reason can explain or ratify is correct..but that leaves so much out..and turned life into a flat line existence imo..

I live by Faith..all I do is inspired by Faith..it isnt easy in this reality..but it is so much rewarding...because there is no limit to anything..its freedom in its purest sense..:-)
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I come from the perceptive of the the 2 different faiths of Christianity. Both RC and Protestant faiths, wait a minute they are 2 different faiths? No they are not but their leaders act like they are or present them like they are. Consequently their parishioners do the same. If one is defending a dogma they are not defending their faith in Christ if they even have any faith in Christ. One thing to say another to demonstrate it. Somethings are grey matter at least they are to our understanding. Honor one another as Christ would honor us and He does if we follow His ways. The Angels of Heaven do not accept the praise or acclaim of humans or Angels, they might be flattered by it however, lol. If one wants to honor a Saint of old or even new let them for they are honoring Christ whom they served here on earth. Of course I am talking about the Protestants who are always flattering their Saints of old and new. Always referring to men like A.W. Tozer and the like. Like David Wilkerson, I know some guy named Patch keeps referring to him, lol. Love and RESPECT each other, you can not love with out respect. Respect each other above your dogmas. We have only one Lord and One Savior or at least we are suppose to.
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I come from the perceptive of the the 2 different faiths of Christianity. Both RC and Protestant faiths, wait a minute they are 2 different faiths? No they are not but their leaders act like they are or present them like they are. Consequently their parishioners do the same. If one is defending a dogma they are not defending their faith in Christ if they even have any faith in Christ. One thing to say another to demonstrate it. Somethings are grey matter at least they are to our understanding. Honor one another as Christ would honor us and He does if we follow His ways. The Angels of Heaven do not accept the praise or acclaim of humans or Angels, they might be flattered by it however, lol. If one wants to honor a Saint of old or even new let them for they are honoring Christ whom they served here on earth. Of course I am talking about the Protestants who are always flattering their Saints of old and new. Always referring to men like A.W. Tozer and the like. Like David Wilkerson, I know some guy named Patch keeps referring to him, lol. Love and RESPECT each other, you can not love with out respect. Respect each other above your dogmas. We have only one Lord and One Savior or at least we are suppose to.
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The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction [link to www.youtube.com] And the man comes on the radio
He's tellin' me more and more
About some useless information
Supposed to drive my imagination..
But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me... Focus on Christ and not so much on your useless argument about Him or THINGS you may or may not agree on on. Defend the faith and not your useless dogmas that do not help one bit. And this coming from a fan of a Saint and Saints.
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One chooses wether to live by Faith or by reason...
According to reason..only what our senses percieve is real..and only what logic and reason can explain or ratify is correct..but that leaves so much out..and turned life into a flat line existence imo..

I live by Faith..all I do is inspired by Faith..it isnt easy in this reality..but it is so much rewarding...because there is no limit to anything..its freedom in its purest sense..:-)
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Thank you..seeing utubes is slow with this device..thats why im not on my music tbread of late too..till i get my puter..

But there are quite a few amazing miracles regarding the Holy Eucharist..

Every time we go to Holy Communion..in my opinion..not only are we remembering Him at the last supper..its also an act of active faith..we are saying..yes we believe..we believe this is your Body and this is your Blood..
He is Christ...He can do anything..nothing is impossible..from raising the dead..healing the sick...walking on water etc..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I come from the perceptive of the the 2 different faiths of Christianity. Both RC and Protestant faiths, wait a minute they are 2 different faiths? No they are not but their leaders act like they are or present them like they are. Consequently their parishioners do the same. If one is defending a dogma they are not defending their faith in Christ if they even have any faith in Christ. One thing to say another to demonstrate it. Somethings are grey matter at least they are to our understanding. Honor one another as Christ would honor us and He does if we follow His ways. The Angels of Heaven do not accept the praise or acclaim of humans or Angels, they might be flattered by it however, lol. If one wants to honor a Saint of old or even new let them for they are honoring Christ whom they served here on earth. Of course I am talking about the Protestants who are always flattering their Saints of old and new. Always referring to men like A.W. Tozer and the like. Like David Wilkerson, I know some guy named Patch keeps referring to him, lol. Love and RESPECT each other, you can not love with out respect. Respect each other above your dogmas. We have only one Lord and One Savior or at least we are suppose to.
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I prefer no personal references ac..as to names etc.. of posters..thank you..
He also happens to be a friend of mine.
Thank you
hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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About Fatima..most know but some dont know what these three children went through..they were allegedly mocked by the villagers..Lucias mother was far from pleased and urged her quite strongly to tell everyone it was a lie and be done with..
The three children were even allegedly imprisoned and allegedly threatened because of all this..but they stood their ground..lets not forget the oldest was Lucia and she was barely nine years old!
Such strength of purpose and determination in three little children.

Last Edited by wildhoney on 10/22/2012 03:04 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Okay-.this is strange..
I usually check EWTN on a Wedn.to watch Mother Angelica..but tonight i checked anyway..
Well turns out Mother Angelica is on..about contemplative life as lay people etc..re run of last weeks programm that prompted me to write the thread about her..

Ok...

But what is strange in my opinion..is that when i pressed the remote to get info on the program like when it started ..etc..it doesnt appear as a Mother Angelica..program

For some strange odd circumstance..it appears as Our Lady Of Fatima..a program dedicated to Our Lady of Fatima and the apparitions...

But its not..its Mother Angelica..

Now I wrote two threads in the last couple of days..one for Mother Angelica..the same program that is aired again and now.. this thread about the Fatima Apparition..and they are both appearing together..due to some odd glitch..

damned
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
Okay-.this is strange..
I usually check EWTN on a Wedn.to watch Mother Angelica..but tonight i checked anyway..
Well turns out Mother Angelica is on..about contemplative life as lay people etc..re run of last weeks programm that prompted me to write the thread about her..

Ok...

But what is strange in my opinion..is that when i pressed the remote to get info on the program like when it started ..etc..it doesnt appear as a Mother Angelica..program

For some strange odd circumstance..it appears as Our Lady Of Fatima..a program dedicated to Our Lady of Fatima and the apparitions...

But its not..its Mother Angelica..

Now I wrote two threads in the last couple of days..one for Mother Angelica..the same program that is aired again and now.. this thread about the Fatima Apparition..and they are both appearing together..due to some odd glitch..

damned
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
So im watching Mother Angelica..but its announced on my tv..when i press info on the remote as a program about Our Lady of Fatima and the Fatima apparitions..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: more about the Fatima apparitions..
So im watching Mother Angelica..but its announced on my tv..when i press info on the remote as a program about Our Lady of Fatima and the Fatima apparitions..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I come from the perceptive of the the 2 different faiths of Christianity. Both RC and Protestant faiths, wait a minute they are 2 different faiths? No they are not but their leaders act like they are or present them like they are. Consequently their parishioners do the same. If one is defending a dogma they are not defending their faith in Christ if they even have any faith in Christ. One thing to say another to demonstrate it. Somethings are grey matter at least they are to our understanding. Honor one another as Christ would honor us and He does if we follow His ways. The Angels of Heaven do not accept the praise or acclaim of humans or Angels, they might be flattered by it however, lol. If one wants to honor a Saint of old or even new let them for they are honoring Christ whom they served here on earth. Of course I am talking about the Protestants who are always flattering their Saints of old and new. Always referring to men like A.W. Tozer and the like. Like David Wilkerson, I know some guy named Patch keeps referring to him, lol. Love and RESPECT each other, you can not love with out respect. Respect each other above your dogmas. We have only one Lord and One Savior or at least we are suppose to.
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I prefer no personal references ac..as to names etc.. of posters..thank you..
He also happens to be a friend of mine.
Thank you
hf
 Quoting: wildhoney


I am Patch and I try to learn from my own mistakes and my past ignorance. Catholics and Protestants should agree to disagree peacefully and with respect and honor. If either of these ingredients are missing from love then it is not love at all. They should both follow Christ and not their leaders that put their own interpretation on what Jesus plainly taught us and He simplified His teaching so anyone could understand what love is and how we should live while we still live. Blessings, many toward you and all that truly love Christ Jesus. hf
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Poor Wildhoney. Catholics are not required to believe in Fatima. Few Roman Catholics today are familiar with the Gospel . Why would they put up with Assisi? T H I N K !!!.

Times are going to get very tough. I think the Catholic bead counters and the Protestant rapture crowd will become disillusioned. False economics (organized global crime) and anti-Christian medicine threaten to annihilate billions while many Christians hide from reality by seeking shelter on unstable doctrine.

I am sure is is fun to hang with feel good people that like feel good doctrine. That is one reason men should teach the faith, not women.

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