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40 Reasons To Ban Guns.. (edit..This is a PRO GUN THREAD, actually read it before commenting)

 
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In Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein every Iraqi Male was given by US forces an automatic rifle AK-47 and enough ammunition to last a year.

There is a certain irony in this US soldiers are not allowed to own Automatic weapons at all unless they have the proper permits and licences and have paid the necessary taxes on each automatic weapon they own.

Furthermore if they live on base those weapons must be locked up at the base armory and cannot be transported inside a car they must be locked inside the trunk with the ammunition separate from the weapon.

By the way these rules apply to all weapons any soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine personally own, not just automatic weapons.

Their issued weapons fall under even tighter controls because our government does not trust its soldiers with weapons.
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Stupid fucks
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November 5th is National Buy Ammunition Day. It's been sanctioned by a dozen videos on utube.
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only slaves don't have guns
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I should have worded it differently.. when I said execute the death penalty, I was meaning the entire process, including the appeals and years in jail. I did not mean the injections themselves.
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I can see that maybe. But the whole process is drawn out so the person sits in jail. That means more money. Thats just how it is. The more prisoners you have the more personal you have to hire. The bigger budget you get. The USA is ranked #1 with the most prisoners IN THE WORLD. If you took china out. We would trump all other countries combined. SO if you look at this based on stats it would look like the USA has the most violent people in the world right?...no
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The process is drawn out much to long. Dragging it out not only makes money for private prisons, the lawyers, and any other money hunger person involved. CA three strike law is a bit dumb.. (do they still have that?) Thats a law made for the money hungry rich.
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Sounds like you just might be anti gun ban :) If you can find a way to get the guns out of the hands of the bad guys without a gun ban law. Im all for it.
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Or find a way to shorten the appeals process so the execution can be done quicker. Really it would be more humane than making somebody sit on deathrow for years on end.
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1 reason to ban guns. SAVE LIVES.

End of discussion. Thank you.
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Really! maybe it needs to be your house that gets broken into next and its occupants raped or possibly murdered, doesnt sound like such a good idea now does it? Honestly im curious how do intend to defend yourself if someone has broken into your house and intends to assault you?
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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Well, I figured that part out, but why are people guns "stupid fucks"?
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
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What, then, is law? It is the collective organization of the individual right to lawful defense.

Each of us has a natural right--from God--to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but an extension of our faculties?

If every person has the right to defend -- even by force -- his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right -- its reason for existing, its lawfulness -- is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force -- for the same reason -- cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups.

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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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I name thee the Denmark dip-shit. I shall knight you now with a mushroom stamp to your forehead. Now get lost Douche!!
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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I name thee the Denmark dip-shit. I shall knight you now with a mushroom stamp to your forehead. Now get lost Douche!!
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300 years, thats a big fat boy that tries to act like a grown up, the united states of big stupid boy with big guns.
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Stupid fucks
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
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I name thee the Denmark dip-shit. I shall knight you now with a mushroom stamp to your forehead. Now get lost Douche!!
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300 years, thats a big fat boy that tries to act like a grown up, the united states of big stupid boy with big guns.
If it hurts its because its true
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You really are that stupid arent you! Yes we have big guns and lots of them, thats why nobody F%$ks with us, now try to pull your head out of your ass and get some common sense. oh by the way guns are used for hunting too, but you probably cant do that there in your country.
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Do explain.. you make a comment about something, but do not elaborate.. Who's stupid now?
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People with guns
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
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I'd like to see a society where every competent adult MUST carry a firearm at all times while in public. I bet every crime statistic would drop.
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People with guns
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I name thee the Denmark dip-shit. I shall knight you now with a mushroom stamp to your forehead. Now get lost Douche!!
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 26016850


300 years, thats a big fat boy that tries to act like a grown up, the united states of big stupid boy with big guns.
If it hurts its because its true
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You really are that stupid arent you! Yes we have big guns and lots of them, thats why nobody F%$ks with us, now try to pull your head out of your ass and get some common sense. oh by the way guns are used for hunting too, but you probably cant do that there in your country.
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Last post was by me, im not a coward.
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gun free zone
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People with guns
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
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We would be happy to compare them.. if you gave them to us.. link?
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I'd like to see a society where every competent adult MUST carry a firearm at all times while in public. I bet every crime statistic would drop.
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I bet it would too.
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People with guns
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
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Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
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Also, we're legally bound by the Constitution to create and maintain a civil militia. That militia is required to be armed with the same weapons as the military.

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I'd like my apache as well. Oh and the free flight lessons, can't forget those.
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The law is the organization of the natural right of lawful defense. It is the substitution of a common force for individual forces. And this common force is to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do: to protect persons, liberties, and properties; to maintain the right of each, and to cause justice to reign over us all.

A Just and Enduring Government

If a nation were founded on this basis, it seems to me that order would prevail among the people, in thought as well as in deed. It seems to me that such a nation would have the most simple, easy to accept, economical, limited, nonoppressive, just, and enduring government imaginable -- whatever its political form might be.

Under such an administration, everyone would understand that he possessed all the privileges as well as all the responsibilities of his existence.

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Will banning/outlawing/making guns illegal stop gun crime?

No it won't.


All you will do is shut down an industry, disarm honest people and cause the loss of thousands of jobs.

If criminals obeyed laws and if making guns illegal would stop gun crime then we could sit down and talk about it.

As it stands, there are over 40,000 gun laws on the books. None of those laws stopped what happened today and any law you can pass in the future will not stop it from happening again.

If that guy wanted to kill that woman, he would have found a way.


Criminals do not obey gun laws and they will not stop committing crime with guns because of laws.

Until you get that single most important fact drilled into your head, you are fighting an argument you cannot win.
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
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Okay, you need to back up what you are saying.. even a link would be great. You need to do research before spatting out.. Why do you say in the long run that does not hold water? It's not only about protection, it's about our freedom and our rights. But, you don't understand that and probably never will. If you really think your way is the better way, prove it.. tell/show me why or how!
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If youre on antidepressants you should be banned from owning weapons. Of course that would mean 99% of you idiots would be gunless. But if youre on that shit you really arent capable of making rational decisions. Just look at the stupid shit you believe on here. FFS
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But yea for self defence, until the kid gets it from the box or draver and goes on a killing spree, or until patriotic daddy desides to shoot the whole family when he is drunk and gets a fit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184


A person who has a gun should be responsible and have it locked up or on his or herself at all times. But, sadly, this is not always the case, as we have seen in the past.
And I'm not sure what you mean by patriotic daddy? A military or former military member, a dad celebrating to much on the 4th of July?
Either way when anybody is murdered or accidently killed by another person using a gun it is heart wrenching, but do you not understand that these thing will continue to happen, in fact get worse if a gun ban was put into place? neither of the senarios you gave wouldn't change.
 Quoting: novamom

Compare the statistics, with our two countries, we have no legal guns exept for hunting and at the shooting range.
The statistics speak for them self
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26016184

Obama is doing the right thing
You all deserve to live with abit more security
The point you allways use is/ But the bad guys have guns so we must have them allso to defend our self.
But in the long run it does not hold water at all.
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I just want to thank you and the rest of the anti gun people in advance for the extra food, supplies, and water you are going to leave the rest of us if chaos breaks out around the world and you are one of the first exterminated because you have no survival instincts, or means to protect yourself. By the way I like dark chocolate so stock up!!!!
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Will banning/outlawing/making guns illegal stop gun crime?

No it won't.


All you will do is shut down an industry, disarm honest people and cause the loss of thousands of jobs.

If criminals obeyed laws and if making guns illegal would stop gun crime then we could sit down and talk about it.

As it stands, there are over 40,000 gun laws on the books. None of those laws stopped what happened today and any law you can pass in the future will not stop it from happening again.

If that guy wanted to kill that woman, he would have found a way.


Criminals do not obey gun laws and they will not stop committing crime with guns because of laws.

Until you get that single most important fact drilled into your head, you are fighting an argument you cannot win.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


People fight this issue before thinking about it..haha It's like by passing a gun ban there is some super power that will magically make all of the guns disappear.
What's that I hear? do I hear kumbaya in the back ground..haha
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I wouldn't mind hearing from anybody who thinks a gun ban would be a good thing, but without being nasty about it. I truely want to understand the mindset.
 Quoting: novamom


I think a total gun ban would be a good thing.

I'm a news reporter and I found out that 99% of all mass shootings happen in gun free zone. So, if we make Amerika a gun free zone, there will be more incidents for me to cover! Yeah, man! I see a never ending strings of victims and witnesses to interview. Bring on the ban!

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