40 Reasons To Ban Guns.. (edit..This is a PRO GUN THREAD, actually read it before commenting)

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Yep.

And planes, and knives, and and and.. the list could go on forever. How about we just take some personal responsibility. The trigger doesn't pull itself.

Well, I know two cases where the crime rate decreased significantly when firearms were made mandatory.

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The majority of deaths by gun in Switzerland were suicides rather than homicides :O. I suppose they should ban kitchen knives since most of their deaths involve bladed weapons.

The "mindset" is very simply put, we have the right to defend ourselves form oppressive government and thugs on the streets and our highest law says so.
And this does not mean the government has the right to chisel away at who can have a gun and what type of gun it is.
I think "the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed "is simple and easy to understand, so simple even a liberal anti American gun grabbing congress can understand the meaning, and that there was a reason they made the wording so plain.

I'll reply shortly.. I need to get off the computer for a bit

I could say that it's partly due to the difference in population, according to world bank Japan in 2011 was 127,817,277 and the U.S. in 2011 was 311,591,917, but Japan is also much much smaller. But in all honesty the first thing that I thought when I read the title of the article was also stated later in the writing.. the cultures are different. I wasn't thinking that because they are more ready to hand over their weapons, I was thinking that they have more respect than people in the U.S. What works for one, will not always work for another. We would have to take into concideration how what the crime rate was before the ban and to be even more fair, what was driving their rate up.
Because I am curious, I want to see if I can find stats before the gun ban.. and I will make another post as soon as I can.

I'm having a hard time finding any solid numbers but I learned that Japans laws against weapons have always been very strict, even before gun were ever made. I I can say that is the real reason why their firearms crime rate is so low. then never had enough of them to cause the same probems the U.S. has. Besides that, the people their are fine living in a police state, it's all they have ever known.

I have a license to carry my .45 and am rarely without it. If a business puts up a no guns sign, I figure it's dangerous to be in there and shop else where...

LOL at the edit

Thats glp for you

U CANNOT change the constitution . Period. No mater what

habeas corpus fuckwad. Your constitution is more and more just a shredded piece of paper, but you keep on worrying about yer guns.

if that is your argument, then we should ban cars as well. Over 32,000 people killed in vehicle accidents in 2011.

Could someone who is in favor of more gun control please define "Gun Control"?

Too often the only thing you hear is more gun control, but what exactly do you mean by it?

So why didn't the killer use his car to deliberately commit mass murder? How often do you see people deliberately committing mass murder with a car. You don't. You argument is invalid. This discussion thread is about guns, not cars. That makes your argument doubly invalid. Please stay on topic with this thread and stop trying to change the subject to something other than guns. Thank you.

Saving lives is more important than saving guns. Support the gun ban. Support life.

If this is not true, then what is?

With sources please.

These days, it seems the public 'needs' a safety helmet. It's not their fault, it's the way we're being programmed.

Assimilate or Annihilate!

Yes, if there were no guns in the US then less people would be killed, but the fact of the matter is, we do have them, they are a part of our mixed culture. Our forefathers used them for hunting and protection, and people today still use them for the same readons, but the problem is our culture has evolved, it's not what it used to be. Somewhere along the lines people lost respect for one another and knowing ones neighbors is slowly becoming a thing of the past.. heck some people don't stay in one place long enough to get to kow their neighbors. Our elected officials have burned us to the point we do not trust them or even know who they are or what their names are for that matter.

I stand by my right to bare arms because I am safer. I am safer from the monster our society has molded. The monster who comes in many shapes and sizes from rapists to the government. As long as I have my gun, I will never be raped and as long as I have my gun, I can stand up to my government..

Good night all

I'm not an expert, but I think that banning untrained children from firing automatic weapons at gun shows is a good start.

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15 year old 'supervisor'
gun advocate father
gun show sponsor

All showed extreme lack of judgement and common sense. If pro gun people can't behave properly then you need rules and regulations on when, where, how, and who can handle and use a gun.......just like driving a car.

saying something doesn't make it so. these are simply assumptions on your part. If they make you feel better, that's great, but they aren't true.

Don't worry about this guy. he is just upset because Denmark hasn't been a world power for over 400 years.

You fucking Canadians need to worry about your own backyard first, dont worry about the US and its gun laws.
This is from a Canadian :
over 1.5 million children living in extreme poverty, physically disabled people, people with cancer who cant work, families, children are living on the streets,

Social assistance rates were axed in 1998 and have not increased since then. The average disability pension is $700 a month

The health care system is tanked, huge cutbacks to funding for BC medical because of a little thing called the 2010 olympics,

Corrupt Governments, lying politicians and govt offiicials, no job creation other than in minimum wage sectors that provide no benefits,Canada bas become the missippi of the north.

Most people cannot even afford to pay rent never mind own their owh home, rising food prices, gasoline prices, , natural gas prices to heat homes is out of control, inflation is killing the working class,

Most families cannot afford to pay for post secondary education and the BC liberals have cut and eliminated funding for education and education grants,

The Harper Govt has eliminated funding for ALL women's programs, women's health, womens shelters, rape counelling etc and legal aid for women facing a divorce, no reprensentation in the courts for women unless they are very wealthy, Women are no longer allowed to lobby for, or strike for equal pay with men, it was passed through the legislature several months ago, any union supporting its female members will be fined by the Cdn Govt.

Its legal to smoke crack on the street but not to light up a cigarette - rising crime, rising domestic violence and abuse --

Schools are being closed, funding is being cut ofr education and waiting lists for surgerical procedures in some areas are as much as 5 years long, the govt will no longer pay for any joint replacement for people under the age of 65, several provinces have taken prenatal care off the list of services they pay for as well as diabetic care, ER's are being closed across the country, the BC paramedics are the lowest paid in Canada, in all of NA, as so are the teachers - a person working in a sawmill makes more then a teacher or paramedic does --

union trashing across the country, contracts being broken, salaries being rolled back, unemployment rising, you name it, just add pollution, no funding for the pine beetle recovery in BC, funds being diverted into indian projjects, and the fact they Canada has an apartheird Government, and you got a good snap shot of Canada --

even China has better social programs, senior and disability pensions, health care and education than Canada has.

The Harper Govt has destroyed Canada and continues to hack away at the foundations of Canada life and sell the country lock, stock, and barrel, including control of Canadian airspace and travel to the Americans, natural resources being sold in BC, anyone can build a damn anywhere they want to now -- no forestry or wildlife management, Basically Canada has been sold to the USA, most Cdns just dont realize it yet -- just as Cdn women dont realize ALL their rights have been secrety legislated out of existence --

Please provide the statistics that you speak of.

I don't need numbers to know that people use guns to murder people more than any other instrument.

Saving lives is more important than saving guns. Support life, not guns.

What the hell is a gun free zone? Was Denver a gun free zone?

Are you serious, as a canadian i cannot understand the american appetite for guns. After watching the news and seeing the murders and shootings of soo many american citizens it is truly heartwrenching. I know, i know its not the guns that kill people, its the people that kill people, lmao, what a ridiculous statement. People are using guns to kill, BOTTOM LINE. The more guns, the more murders, sheesh you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. yes there will always be violent crime but it would not escalate to a shooting if no gun were available. Mass murders would dramaticaly decrease with the absence of guns, wow what a concept. I do not believe in government control at all as a matter of fact i am a very conservative person, but growing up in canada and seeing the gun violence in the states makes me so disgusted in the fact that people still refuse to address a major factor in the problem, the accessibility of guns, until that is under control gun violence will only increase. I just dont get it, america still making love to there guns, so sad.

Exactly. If shootings are still happening in gun free zones, that just means we need a more effective gun ban that will get rid of the guns.

A tank and an attack helicopter are not "arms" in the Constitutional sense. I guess it's tough to use a dictionary these days.

If this has been said before, my bad...but

If you institute a gun ban, law-abiding people will turn in their guns while criminals will not. The ratio of guns (criminals/law-abiders) will tip in favor of the criminals. Knowing this, criminals have an easier time committing crimes...and even killing people.

As has been opinioned in court trials.."the police have no duty to risk their life to save yours".

Check the stats on violent crime in Australia after they banned guns about 12 years ago. Crime went up overall, and especially in the rural areas (where the government actually reversed their decision and allowed people to have shotguns.

Once firearms are confiscated, you'll see a huge spike in home invasions, especially at night. Right now the criminal knows he may be on the receiving end of a shotgun or .45. That's what is keeping home invasions in check at night.....