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A Bird's-eye View of History According to the Bible

 
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A Bird's-eye View of History According to the Bible
This is from my post in another thread here, "why did Jesus have to die". I thought it might be worth a topic on its own, since a lot of questions people have about Christianity need some framework to work from.

Here's how I see it:

God created angels and gave them free will. They had various ranks and levels of power, the highest being Lucifer. But Lucifer decided he wanted to be God and rebelled, and a third of the angels went with him.

God also created mankind and gave them free will. But unlike the angels, these beings were "made in the image of God"; they could become not servants like the angels but adopted children, family, heirs of God's kingdom. This seriously ticked Lucifer off.

So Lucifer, through the serpent, gets the first couple to sin against God and they became mortal (how I take "you will certainly die"). But Adam blamed God for it, ignoring the serpent's beguiling of Eve and blaming God for making her. So God cursed the earth because Adam had been formed from it, and He drove Adam out to make him sweat to grow food from it. Eve wasn't driven out but made the fateful choice to follow Adam rather than stay in Eden with God.

This essentially handed over jurisdiction of the earth to Lucifer; Adam and Eve had chosen his kingdom and turned away from God. Ever since then, Lucifer (better known as Satan which means "Adversary") has been running the world, hence all the suffering and death and corruption.

His fallen angels mingled with human beings and created genetic freaks, the Nephilim, who were giants and likely the basis for all the mythological gods and creatures. These "gods" ruled the earth without mercy, and were known for their insatiable appetites for both sex and food. They also began the practice of cannibalism, taught people war, and told them how to do magick.

This was the reason for the Flood. Noah was "perfect in his generations", meaning of pure human lineage. That is why only he and his family were spared, and why we find so many ancient ruins and highly-advanced ancient technology. The purpose of the Flood was to wipe them all out and start over. Satan had hoped to so corrupt the human genome that the promised "seed of the woman", the Savior, would not be able to come and free mankind from Satan's kingdom.

And the price was steep. IMHO, it is Satan who demanded perfect blood as the price of redemption. God set up the sacrificial system for Moses as a type or shadow of the ultimate Sacrifice to come, the One who would pay the price Satan thought impossible for any human being to pay. Satan did everything to try and stop this from happening, but he failed.

This is why Jesus had to die, why blood was required, and why the earth is so messed up. Satan thought that he had God between a rock and a hard place: God would have to violate his holiness in order to show mercy, and He would have to violate his love in order to not leave mankind as slaves to the kingdom of Satan. But God outwitted Satan by becoming human and living that perfect life on our behalf, offering Himself as the ultimate perfect sacrifice, then rising from the dead after the price was paid.

At this point you may be wondering why God didn't immediately take over after this, and rightly so. But the scriptures explain that God had no intention of only saving the Jews, whose existence had been primarily to provide a pure genetic line to the Messiah, Jesus. The Jews had rejected Him and that was the time to turn toward the Gentiles. Thus the "church" was born, a group unique in human history in that they would be given the Holy Spirit "as a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance", which is to be the children of God. Though we who accepted Jesus are technically citizens of God's kingdom, we still reside here on earth in Satan's kingdom. This will continue until "the full number of Gentiles has come in"; it's like a ship not being able to set sail until the full complement of sailors is on board.

Though we don't know what that number is, we can tell by "the signs of the times" that we are very near to reaching it. Very, very near. And when we do, we will be taken to heaven because as God's children we are not to suffer His wrath. That wrath will last 7 years and will be for the purpose of finishing the punishments remaining for the nation of Israel and also for punishing the kingdom of Satan here on earth.

So what Jesus died for is to pay the ransom Satan demanded. Anyone who accepts that payment, offered for free, needs only to ask. Of course, this is more than accepting a ticket to heaven; it is accepting the One who offers it. It's like accepting a marriage proposal, and you don't just accept a ring but the person who offers it. In so doing, you are deciding which kingdom to spend eternity in.

Your individual actions in this life are only judged after your eternal destination is determined. Judgment Day is for that purpose, not to decide who gets into heaven. For those who chose Jesus, their actions determine how much reward they get. But some there "will look as though they escaped through a wall of flames"; they will have no rewards at all. For those who reject Jesus, their actions determine how much suffering they get. The kindly old atheist will not suffer the way Hitler or Stalin will suffer; the punishment will fit the crime.

This is all my opinion, based on the Bible and much research including ancient alien theories, mythology, and philosophy.

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I thought of your thread when I saw the title to this vid...haven't watched it yet but maybe it goes with your topic.



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have u seen that long video about angels/demons / technology and other possibilities?
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colorbump

I thought of your thread when I saw the title to this vid...haven't watched it yet but maybe it goes with your topic.



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Listening now... thanks!
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have u seen that long video about angels/demons / technology and other possibilities?
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Not sure, can you give a link?
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have u seen that long video about angels/demons / technology and other possibilities?
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Not sure, can you give a link?
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Age of Deceit - about angels/technology/demons...

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have u seen that long video about angels/demons / technology and other possibilities?
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Not sure, can you give a link?
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Age of Deceit - about angels/technology/demons...

 Quoting: oh9876


Yes, I did see that, thanks. Excellent video.
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have u seen that long video about angels/demons / technology and other possibilities?
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Not sure, can you give a link?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Age of Deceit - about angels/technology/demons...

 Quoting: oh9876


Yes, I did see that, thanks. Excellent video.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok cool. Why do you think Satan believes he can win? Or maybe he knows he will not win, but wants to create a giant mess on his way down...

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Ok cool. Why do you think Satan believes he can win? Or maybe he knows he will not but wants to create a giant mess on his way down...
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That has to be one of the greatest mysteries. All I can guess is that his ego is so huge that he cannot conceive of losing, even when all evidence is to the contrary, esp. after Jesus rose from the dead. Or it may be that he just can't help himself but to lash out in rage, the way Khan did in Star Trek II, quoting (I think) Moby Dick. ("From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!")
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Ok cool. Why do you think Satan believes he can win? Or maybe he knows he will not but wants to create a giant mess on his way down...
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That has to be one of the greatest mysteries. All I can guess is that his ego is so huge that he cannot conceive of losing, even when all evidence is to the contrary, esp. after Jesus rose from the dead. Or it may be that he just can't help himself but to lash out in rage, the way Khan did in Star Trek II, quoting (I think) Moby Dick. ("From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!")
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Yes a great mystery indeed. I have heard things like oh Satan and Satanic people say look at the source of the Bible, of course they say God/Jesus will win... so maybe that viewpoint is in play.

This thread is good work, thanks.
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Ok cool. Why do you think Satan believes he can win? Or maybe he knows he will not but wants to create a giant mess on his way down...
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That has to be one of the greatest mysteries. All I can guess is that his ego is so huge that he cannot conceive of losing, even when all evidence is to the contrary, esp. after Jesus rose from the dead. Or it may be that he just can't help himself but to lash out in rage, the way Khan did in Star Trek II, quoting (I think) Moby Dick. ("From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!")
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Yes a great mystery indeed. I have heard things like oh Satan and Satanic people say look at the source of the Bible, of course they say God/Jesus will win... so maybe that viewpoint is in play.

This thread is good work, thanks.
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You're very welcome.

Yeah, they say it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy, but seeing all the other things the Bible predicted (esp. Daniel's very accurate prophecy about the names and order of four world empires), I think they're in for a rude surprise.
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"...it is Satan who demanded perfect blood as the price of redemption..."

Ok, so it is Satan that sets the laws?

If Satan says perfect blood will bring redemption it will work?

Please answer me this, why does the sacrifice of perfect blood bring redemption?

I do not understand that connection.
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"...it is Satan who demanded perfect blood as the price of redemption..."

Ok, so it is Satan that sets the laws?

If Satan says perfect blood will bring redemption it will work?

Please answer me this, why does the sacrifice of perfect blood bring redemption?

I do not understand that connection.
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God set the laws to ensure that the price would eventually be met; sorry for not making that more clear.

The matter of perfect blood has to do with sin, which is rebellion against God. Only someone who had never rebelled would be worthy to redeem those who had.

Nobody can say they fully understand all the aspects of this, and nobody in any religion can say they have all the answers. What I'm doing here is trying to convey my best effort at understanding and giving answers.

I think the biggest point is that we can trust God to be as just as necessary and as merciful as possible. And that trust is based upon Jesus having risen from the dead.
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