"The stone which the builders rejected..."

No, does it relate to the work of Ahmed Osman? Is it about the 18th Dynasty of Egypt? It is about the Jesuit logo being the same as the Aten only black and inverted?

If you can type a few comments about it, that helps. I just typed a shitload above so go for it. If you liked the book, type about it and why you liked it.

it is the stone in Zechariah 3:9

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It talks about same things you are here talking about,who these people realy were.I think it was by Osman,I am waiting for a copy to arrive ,as I lost old copy.If you go to amazon tells there about it.

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Oh okay Ralph Ellis. Yes, he is a fine researcher, I enjoy his books a lot.

Yes, he and Osman are on the right trail, but I feel both of them go a bit overboard in their conclusions, still, I do adore their work. No, I've not read this one but I have Eden in Egypt by him, and he is a true soldier of research. Yes, thanks.

As to Osman, I do not agree with him that Tut was the Jesus persona, that's absurd. He is a muslim, but I suspect he may be a crypto-muslim, to make such an absurd claim as that.

Still, he is also one of my favorite dudes, in regards to history teaching truth-style. Like I said, its the conclusions where they are reaching, that I disagree with, but that's like 5% of their work, 95% of their work is fully relevant to the discussion of the power struggle today.

Thanks yes, OP do you have any comments on the theories of Ellis or Osman? I am not sure libraries will even carry their books, so threatening they are to the hiding of Akhenaten's true biography.

Another great book and researcher is Andrew Collins, who wrote the book "Tutankhamun: The Exodus Conspiracy" about how Tut's tomb was broken into and papyri were cataloged but never released and how those papyri allowed Carter to threaten those in power. It was very clever to grab those papyri because damn, can you imagine what a gold mine Tut's tomb was for those who control the Moses story? It's absurd that they remain hidden, the truth about Moses may be "scandalous" but how can it be anymore scandalous than what people have done with his name??

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^^^ his book also has much good info on the history of the UK mandate in Palestine and Rothschild skullduggery around and in the same era, that of Tut's tomb and the manipulations of that.

Also, Freud's book "Moses and Monotheism" is key, his final book which he no doubt saved the best for last. He basically outed all of what these other authors are saying, it's simple when you understand that opening Tut's tomb revealed the true Moses.

Soon there must be a more real discussion but these churches won't do it, Papist or Orthodoxy, so probably they won't survive, imo they are doomed by their failure to conform to history.

9 is my number, and I even have a 9999. So I must be god.

Thanks for sharing!

Keep in mind that Ellis is a member of B'nai B'rith, the Jewish Freemasons. Ergo, he can't be trusted. Osman is a Muslim and more, so I don't trust him either. Frankly I don't completely trust anyone.

Notice that there are NO nonplayer, just regular ole authors anymore. They ALL have agendas. The little guys can't get a major publisher to touch their stuff. So much for the "truth." Your best bet in finding that is THEIR own literature, the esoteric stuff.

P.S. Since Osman is an overt, out-of-the-closet bona fide Muslim, then how in the hell can he be a crypto Muslim?

Then your conclusion is that you think you are a god.

False.

We who are of the "Faith of Jesus Christ are each building upon that Rock who is our Chief Corner Stone....The Captain of our Faith. And we all that are accepting of Him and put our Trust in Christ Jesus do so by the measure of Faith given unto us which is a Gift....not of our selves given our selves a gift but of the Grace of Him Christ Jesus our Faith.
Galatians 2:15-16
We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
He Christ Jesus is that True and Faithful Servant and The Lord and King of the Kingdom He inherited and all those of us who are given unto Him.
Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

For the Lord our God was True to His Word and Promise that was even unto Adam first spoken .....That He would send One that would be our Redeemer Savior unto us.
All things in the prophets and psalms and law was fulfilled by Him Christ Jesus.

Revelation 15:3
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Isaiah 56:5
Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Exodus 16:33
And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omer full of manna therein, and lay it up before the LORD, to be kept for your generations.

The building by laying the foundations and stones are stones of living new creatures...with names built open the Christ Corner stone His Faith in them they Have Faith of Christ Jesus.
There in no temple in the new Kingdom nor its City...but there is Walls Gates Foundations Streets many many things are in here....it is a real and present place New Heaven and New Earth Bound in Heaven Bound in Earth.
Revelation 21:14
And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Ephesians 2:20-
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21-In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22-In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Revelation 21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Acts 4:11
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

1 Corinthians 3:10
According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

The whole book of revelations....is for us to receive our blessings..our blessing lay in The Testimony of Jesus Christ...every Word that comes from His mouth.

And you can see this here and now there are those times most few thank God....we can see the door way made like a door way with no form at all right before our eyes in a room even a public room many see it.

And you can see those already over there jostling about the door happy full of life welcoming ....and the Lord comes to us and take us home He takes us over through the door He makes like a portal or something....and we go with Him over there with them.

The Lord is precious He smells great He is sweet to us..always tender and good to us never leaves us alone or with out Him....He even kneels beside us and speaks to us while we are dying..

It is a light not white it is gold light even the light over there and the door like way that opens is golden light bright golden light.

He Loves as and takes us home....I have seen this with my own eyes I have been there but I have had others of a friends a deacons Church I loved tell me what they saw in the room as he died at the hospital..

All I could do was smile...because the Lord asked me to name who I felt was a calming edifying assuring help unto me who was sick..

I told Him in the room beside me who I would receive help from and knew he was good to us and others.

I got better and was healed ....he got to go home and he was happy to go home.

I was happy to know he went through the door with the Lord.

This place is more than meets the eye....and past this place is right before our eyes...and it is indescribable.

Well, its because he is trying to erase the person of Jesus from the time of Jesus with his Tut theory, rather then speaking as a Muslim who would understand that Jesus is the whole basis of Mohammed anyway. Issa or Jesus is all over their book, and I've not heard Osman explain how Mohammed would be speaking of Tut. That's silly. I guess the question is did Mohammed know what Osman knows?

In this way, he can't really be a muslim, since they wouldn't deny Jesus lived. Mohammed just springboarded off Jesus anyway. Personally, I do believe a person like Jesus did exist and told people to flee Jerusalem at the time he is historically said to exist. I am saying it's cool if he's not really a muslim but just a rebel in disguise, because Islam is not the true way anyway, imo.

Sure, he is a muslim as you say "overt out of the closet" and so what? This could be still be serving a Jewish or Sabbatean notion, but I am not sure. He doesn't need to be good, to be truthful.

Well I guess the answer to your limited question, is that when and if there is ever a global discussion about this on the media networks, he will be able to field questions, and my line of questioning would be along the lines of the Sabbatean ethos, and Zevi and Frank, and so forth.

The whole notion of anti-Rome and anti-Noah and so forth, allows a lot of rebelliousness and so its hard to say someone is evil, just because they have an agenda which is 95% truthful to the real history and 5% utterly false. I would probably still judge them on the 95% truth and buyer beward about the 5% I guess.

In truth, when Frank was a Muslim, he was actually a Jew, but was he a Jew? Not really because he was a Sabbatean so he was an anti-Noah type. No I'm not saying Osman is like that, but his notion that Tut was Jesus is just complete horseshit, and yes I would like to have this discussion go mainstream but people like you will probably steer the discussion into the corners like you are doing, with your little one line comment. So, if you have any place to take it, go for it. Don't just steer it into the ground.

I don't believe everything either that I read,and I read a lot,my problem is sitting here and trying to get my thoughts together but stuff still dont come out rite,i'll get the hang of it yet!