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NASA's Swift satellite makes find near center of Milky Way galaxy...


Astronomers have spotted a rare X-ray star explosion near the center of our Milky Way galaxy, revealing a previously unknown black hole munching on gas from a neighboring sun-like star.

NASA's Swift satellite made the cosmic find last month when it detected a new and rapidly brightening X-ray source a few degrees from the galactic center of the Milky Way. Astronomers identified the outburst as a short-lived bright X-ray nova, which is produced when a stream of gas rushes toward either a neutron star or a black hole. Unlike a supernova, which is the explosive death of a star, novas are smaller explosions that do not completely destroy a star.

The black hole is thought to be 20,000 to 30,000 light-years away in the galaxy's inner region. Astronomers, who named the bright X-ray nova Swift J1745-26 after its coordinates in space, said witnessing such an event is rare.



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This is a very interesting story!!! Thanks for sharing!
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strange..
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Wow, might have been this!

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Pretty interesting though either way.
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Thanks for sharing
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Hello TDP : )

I have issues with so called Black Holes,this video sums up some of my problems with Black Holes and their definition

Please watch it and try to understand -


[link to www.youtube.com]

I know the fella' is a little annoying but the points are extremely valid.

We can't even get the Physics of our own Stars Heliosphere/pause correct,let alone everything else.
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Hello TDP : )

I have issues with so called Black Holes,this video sums up some of my problems with Black Holes and their definition

Please watch it and try to understand -


[link to www.youtube.com]

I know the fella' is a little annoying but the points are extremely valid.

We can't even get the Physics of our own Stars Heliosphere/pause correct,let alone everything else.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I watched it. So only because we've never practically experienced a black hole with our own eyes, it makes it wrong in theory?

I doubt so.

Same thing with wormholes.
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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hmmm
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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To my understanding, a black hole is a tear in space-time because inside that event horizon lies a singularity - a point of infinite density where the curvature of space-time becomes infinite. This happens because if a great enough mass is confined in a small enough space nothing can get out, not even light. Once a collapsing mass passes this point, there is nothing that we know of that could stop it from continuing this collapse forever, leading to that point of infinite density. General relativity relates gravity to the curvature of space-time. Without going through all the relevant equations (and me brushing up on my mathematics for it) the equations show that at this point the curvature would be infinite. That can be seen as a hole in space-time.
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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There is so much shit flying around out there that we cant keep track of or understand so little about. its crazy to think about.

We are a drop in the ocean with an abundance of life swimming around us.

And you have these Science types saying nothing to worry about. that we are 50,000 years away from this. and 10 million years away from that.

PFFttt year sure. our whole solar system could get swept away in the blink of an eye. but hey. I am happy to just live life. if something happens.. it was meant to be.
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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To my understanding, a black hole is a tear in space-time because inside that event horizon lies a singularity - a point of infinite density where the curvature of space-time becomes infinite. This happens because if a great enough mass is confined in a small enough space nothing can get out, not even light. Once a collapsing mass passes this point, there is nothing that we know of that could stop it from continuing this collapse forever, leading to that point of infinite density. General relativity relates gravity to the curvature of space-time. Without going through all the relevant equations (and me brushing up on my mathematics for it) the equations show that at this point the curvature would be infinite. That can be seen as a hole in space-time.
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That's still a theory. and they had to throw in that infinite gravity crap to achieve it. In an electrical universe it is easily more explainable.
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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To my understanding, a black hole is a tear in space-time because inside that event horizon lies a singularity - a point of infinite density where the curvature of space-time becomes infinite. This happens because if a great enough mass is confined in a small enough space nothing can get out, not even light. Once a collapsing mass passes this point, there is nothing that we know of that could stop it from continuing this collapse forever, leading to that point of infinite density. General relativity relates gravity to the curvature of space-time. Without going through all the relevant equations (and me brushing up on my mathematics for it) the equations show that at this point the curvature would be infinite. That can be seen as a hole in space-time.
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That's still a theory. and they had to throw in that infinite gravity crap to achieve it. In an electrical universe it is easily more explainable.
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But it is a pretty good theory, you got to admit.
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LOL everything science says is mostly theories. wait 50 years when everything gets smashed out of the ball park and is redefined. like those people that were hanged for saying the world is round. maybe the same as the electric universe theory...
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very good video from THUNDERBOLTS ELECTRIC UNIVERSE
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Thanks for the pin!


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very good video from THUNDERBOLTS ELECTRIC UNIVERSE
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good video
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some other ideas include the notion that a black body singularity warps space-time into a 2 dimensional field, aka the event horizon. "information" lost to this horizon is stored on the 2D boundary. the edge of our universe may resemble this type of 2D boundary. the idea of holographic universe rises from these concepts.

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NASA's Swift satellite makes find near center of Milky Way galaxy...


Astronomers have spotted a rare X-ray star explosion near the center of our Milky Way galaxy, revealing a previously unknown black hole munching on gas from a neighboring sun-like star.

NASA's Swift satellite made the cosmic find last month when it detected a new and rapidly brightening X-ray source a few degrees from the galactic center of the Milky Way. Astronomers identified the outburst as a short-lived bright X-ray nova, which is produced when a stream of gas rushes toward either a neutron star or a black hole. Unlike a supernova, which is the explosive death of a star, novas are smaller explosions that do not completely destroy a star.

The black hole is thought to be 20,000 to 30,000 light-years away in the galaxy's inner region. Astronomers, who named the bright X-ray nova Swift J1745-26 after its coordinates in space, said witnessing such an event is rare.



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Great find OP!
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116127


There is so much shit flying around out there that we cant keep track of or understand so little about. its crazy to think about.

We are a drop in the ocean with an abundance of life swimming around us.

And you have these Science types saying nothing to worry about. that we are 50,000 years away from this. and 10 million years away from that.

PFFttt year sure. our whole solar system could get swept away in the blink of an eye. but hey. I am happy to just live life. if something happens.. it was meant to be.
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Your post made me think of something I've near considered before... Maybe the purpose of black holes is to act like a kind of cosmic garbage man, sucking up all the wayward stuff that is floating around. A sort of balance to the chaos. If everything was continually crashing into each other there could be no order. If we apprehend that a point of infinite density destroyed itself in an act of creative destruction we call the Big Bang this makes perfect sense. The point "realized" that it was limited as a point in space and turned itself inside out so that it could know itself from another vantage point. I feel it wants to experience every possibility. If it had expanded one billionth of a second slower the Universe would never have had enough energy to form, one billionth of a second faster and it would have expanded too fast for anything to have ever formed. The very matter that composes you and I was once cooked in a star but is now arranged in a manner that you believe yourself to be you and I believe myself to be me. You are the Big Bang and you are observing yourself. Quantum entanglement further proves this to us as true. The theory of alternative universes says that because the Universe is so extraordinarily vast if you travel far enough in any direction you would eventually be looking at another Earth and another version of yourself with the most minor variations along the way ad infinitum that our present form cannot even comprehend this. We are finite on purpose otherwise we would still be that infinite point in space unable to observe Ourself.
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Hello TDP : )

I have issues with so called Black Holes,this video sums up some of my problems with Black Holes and their definition

Please watch it and try to understand -


[link to www.youtube.com]

I know the fella' is a little annoying but the points are extremely valid.

We can't even get the Physics of our own Stars Heliosphere/pause correct,let alone everything else.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I watched it. So only because we've never practically experienced a black hole with our own eyes, it makes it wrong in theory?

I doubt so.

Same thing with wormholes.
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No,that is'nt the jist of the videos' message.

The point of the video is to explain that the definition of a Black Hole does not make sense in the real World,both in everyday Language and exact Scientific Terminology.

Please,watch it again and listen to what they are saying,esp. with relation to Singularities and Infinite Densities/R(Radius)/Schwarzschild Radius,etc.

They are very,very valid points.
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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116127


To my understanding, a black hole is a tear in space-time because inside that event horizon lies a singularity - a point of infinite density where the curvature of space-time becomes infinite. This happens because if a great enough mass is confined in a small enough space nothing can get out, not even light. Once a collapsing mass passes this point, there is nothing that we know of that could stop it from continuing this collapse forever, leading to that point of infinite density. General relativity relates gravity to the curvature of space-time. Without going through all the relevant equations (and me brushing up on my mathematics for it) the equations show that at this point the curvature would be infinite. That can be seen as a hole in space-time.
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Thats' exactly the point,it is a Mathematical concept.

Singularities:The Universe is a Singularity,common sense tells us two Singularities cannot exist within one-another,follow?

Points of Infinite Density are not allowed for under Special Relativity and you can prove that Infinite Densities actually violate the Theory of Relativity.

'Infinite Densities are forbidden under Special Relativity since General Relativity cannot violate Special Relativity,General Relativity too,ipso factso,forbids Infinite Densities'

Watch the Video and listen to the points that are made.

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Here,this video - Watch it and listen carefully to the Points.


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You have to think of a black hole as an object. An object generating so much gravity not even light can escape. They still move about in space, etc.
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To my understanding, a black hole is a tear in space-time because inside that event horizon lies a singularity - a point of infinite density where the curvature of space-time becomes infinite. This happens because if a great enough mass is confined in a small enough space nothing can get out, not even light. Once a collapsing mass passes this point, there is nothing that we know of that could stop it from continuing this collapse forever, leading to that point of infinite density. General relativity relates gravity to the curvature of space-time. Without going through all the relevant equations (and me brushing up on my mathematics for it) the equations show that at this point the curvature would be infinite. That can be seen as a hole in space-time.
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I'm just a layperson on the subject, but to me a black hole just means a mass so great light cannot even escape it. I don't know why a black hole would have to mean a singularity. Black holes even have jets so it's not as if nothing can escape. I guess I don't understand why the word "infinite" has to come into play here.

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