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Why are we here?

 
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Soul just means a living being. The only Spirit some possess is the Holy Spirit and that is from God but not everyone has this Spirit indwelling inside them. You have no Spirit but have a soul, your life.
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this is pure BS. All have spirit. and all can connect to the Father. It takes learning meditation. Animals don't connect to the Father, they connect to the mother, GAia's mind. Life is MIND. Not matter.

The Holy Spirit is completely misunderstood. What some do not have, or cannot contact is the Father Fragment, every living being has holy spirit. Even the tree, GAIA's MInd is HOLY SPIRIT, female evolutionary mind and each animal having a brain, connects with its group soup within that mind.

I really to the mind controlled, the above will make no sense.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Soul just means a living being. The only Spirit some possess is the Holy Spirit and that is from God but not everyone has this Spirit indwelling inside them. You have no Spirit but have a soul, your life.
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this is pure BS. All have spirit. and all can connect to the Father. It takes learning meditation. Animals don't connect to the Father, they connect to the mother, GAia's mind. Life is MIND. Not matter.
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You're confusing people even more. It takes no effort. No meditation or special new age bullshit needed. Realization of the self is the most simplest realization. The only reason you think it takes effort is because you want it to be hard. You don't want to feel liberated so you invent ways to prevent yourself from knowing yourself. Like attachments to rituals.
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Soul just means a living being. The only Spirit some possess is the Holy Spirit and that is from God but not everyone has this Spirit indwelling inside them. You have no Spirit but have a soul, your life.
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this is pure BS. All have spirit. and all can connect to the Father. It takes learning meditation. Animals don't connect to the Father, they connect to the mother, GAia's mind. Life is MIND. Not matter.

The Holy Spirit is completely misunderstood. What some do not have, or cannot contact is the Father Fragment, every living being has holy spirit. Even the tree, GAIA's MInd is HOLY SPIRIT, female evolutionary mind and each animal having a brain, connects with its group soup within that mind.

I really to the mind controlled, the above will make no sense.
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No, what you speak is pure BS. The Urantia book is the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
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There is no "why?" to it. We exist as a consequence of "here" existing.
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We have been operating under base 8 parameter set, which is planetary rulership.

We will be transitioning to base 8 parameter set operating as a subset within a base 12 parameter set which is planetary guardianship.

We are here to be stewards and caretakers of a beloved jewel in space, what this earth world is to some; seemingly not the majority of humans though.

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Man you people frustrate me, we are here due to a complex set of biological mechanisms, that's it. Keep following your delusions as much as you like, life only has whatever meaning you give it (so go ahead and devote yourself to a bunch of people who want to exploit you in the name of "God"). I find it absurd how a forum primarily consisting of conspiracy theoryish ideas, the breakdown of religious and non-religious seems to be about the same as in the general population. It's the most blatant and longest lasting of all conspiracies. I seriously have no idea how it tricks people who are older than 10 years old, religion is so fucking absurd....
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Man you people frustrate me, we are here due to a complex set of biological mechanisms, that's it. Keep following your delusions as much as you like, life only has whatever meaning you give it (so go ahead and devote yourself to a bunch of people who want to exploit you in the name of "God"). I find it absurd how a forum primarily consisting of conspiracy theoryish ideas, the breakdown of religious and non-religious seems to be about the same as in the general population. It's the most blatant and longest lasting of all conspiracies. I seriously have no idea how it tricks people who are older than 10 years old, religion is so fucking absurd....
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Yea, but without those opposite belief systems you wouldn't know what you believe in either. So you need those religious nuts just like you need those blind scientists.

So tell me, who put that "complex set of biological mechanisms" on? Did you put it on? Did God? Did it put on itself, who put it on in existence?
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So tell me, who put that "complex set of biological mechanisms" on?
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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So tell me, who put that "complex set of biological mechanisms" on?
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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For there to be chaos there also needs to be order. Chaos and order are the same thing, like two opposite poles on a single magnet.

In my humble opinion and experience... The problem arises with defining the world through thoughts, thoughts are abstract, the world isn't. Therefore there can never be any concrete definition of the world around you. The only... hate to put it like this.. "true" way of seeing it, is, seeing it as it is, without definition.
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Man you people frustrate me, we are here due to a complex set of biological mechanisms, that's it. Keep following your delusions as much as you like, life only has whatever meaning you give it (so go ahead and devote yourself to a bunch of people who want to exploit you in the name of "God"). I find it absurd how a forum primarily consisting of conspiracy theoryish ideas, the breakdown of religious and non-religious seems to be about the same as in the general population. It's the most blatant and longest lasting of all conspiracies. I seriously have no idea how it tricks people who are older than 10 years old, religion is so fucking absurd....
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That's what he wants you to believe while you run down your clock. Experience cannot be denied.
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
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For there to be chaos there also needs to be order.
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not axiomatic.
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
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Who put that chaos on? See, we're both opposite poles on the same magnet... Same shit. Life is a mystery, don't waste time trying to figure it out.
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
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God is eternal, He always existed so he does not have a Creator.
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Thread: This is how I see our existance. The why, what, how... It is us, we are one, we are everything.

.......I believe everything that ever was and ever will be... started from something.. in the end, everything will seize to exist. Except for ONE thing. The thing that has always been there and always will be... it is 'everything' it is what some may say is God. It is us, it is you, it is me, it is the physical, it is the un-imaginable, knowledge and creation, time does not exist as everything does exist at the same time, everything is now, is then, and forever will be... you eventually get put back together, the pieces that is you, is me, is everything, but does not die. If what makes us seized to exist, then we would never exist to begin with...

How can ultimate consciousness, knowledge and power ever be stable? It's like being alone with no one to tell the most un-imaginable things are possible. Its like frustration, an unstable atom. It gives in, it collides, with/within itself so to speak and explodes in a 'want' to experience it once again... Big bang, or even string theory because 'source' is stripped down to nothing, is slowly starts vibrating and stringing itself together within a vast space of nothingness - dark matter - anti matter. It can do this all at once in a single moment but it can be nothing at the same time, time is just a perspective of us perceiving everything at that moment, time is merely an illusion, limited by the speed we can comprehend and understand ourself....
Hence, if we knew and understood everything time would seize to exist and we would be source/self/consciousness/god for that moment. Like an elastic band, the universe will stretch out, or energy will come to a point, where, it will start contracting, and ultimately become one again, we still have so much to experience.

The law of attraction, the 'law' - Einsteins theory of relativity, it all makes sense for us not to skip through time and see things we are not ready for, in due time, we will be happy, and fulfilled, whole, and not striving to be the winner. We are all winners, of our own personal lottery, as we are a living soul. Embrace what you have, whether it be alot, or pain, cherish every moment you have given yourself, it's for greater purpose, it's for self exploration to experience, and gain knowledge. This laws we have put in on our own, it what makes us find our way home, no one but ourself is capable of changing what we've ultimately made. It's what makes us piece everything back together. It is inevitable. It's how we chose to be, to be unpredictable and have freewill, without knowing, so that someday we may become what we have always been and always knew... without always knowing.

To love we must feel hate, to appreciate something we must experience loss, to feel joy we must feel pain, to remember... we must forget.

Anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation's for cowards.
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Man you people frustrate me, we are here due to a complex set of biological mechanisms, that's it. Keep following your delusions as much as you like, life only has whatever meaning you give it (so go ahead and devote yourself to a bunch of people who want to exploit you in the name of "God"). I find it absurd how a forum primarily consisting of conspiracy theoryish ideas, the breakdown of religious and non-religious seems to be about the same as in the general population. It's the most blatant and longest lasting of all conspiracies. I seriously have no idea how it tricks people who are older than 10 years old, religion is so fucking absurd....
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That's what he wants you to believe while you run down your clock. Experience cannot be denied.
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Screw religion and have a personal relationship with your Almighty Creator. Only trust what God's word, the Bible says. It is the only 100% accurate historical holy book and not one of its thousands of Prophecy's have failed. What are the odds of that?
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Screw religion and have a personal relationship with your Almighty Creator. Only trust what God's word, the Bible says. It is the only 100% accurate historical holy book and not one of its thousands of Prophecy's have failed. What are the odds of that?
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which is it papist? screw religion, which was handed down by god, or have a relationship with the bible. logic evades you. hence your dogma...
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
 Quoting: ParadoxLogos


Who put that chaos on? See, we're both opposite poles on the same magnet... Same shit. Life is a mystery, don't waste time trying to figure it out.
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Oh but you must because there will be consequences of poor choices and eternal life is at stake. How could anyone pass that up. Eternal life in paradise. I do not believe in eternal hellfire, that came from a mistranslation but people will die the second death and will be thrown into the lake of fire, annihilated forever. There will be winners and there will be losers. Which one will you be? The choice is yours.
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chaos. it's a big existence out there. life happened. no need for intervention.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
 Quoting: ParadoxLogos


Who put that chaos on? See, we're both opposite poles on the same magnet... Same shit. Life is a mystery, don't waste time trying to figure it out.
 Quoting: Eternium


Oh but you must because there will be consequences of poor choices and eternal life is at stake. How could anyone pass that up. Eternal life in paradise. I do not believe in eternal hellfire, that came from a mistranslation but people will die the second death and will be thrown into the lake of fire, annihilated forever. There will be winners and there will be losers. Which one will you be? The choice is yours.
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Grow up.
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Screw religion and have a personal relationship with your Almighty Creator. Only trust what God's word, the Bible says. It is the only 100% accurate historical holy book and not one of its thousands of Prophecy's have failed. What are the odds of that?
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which is it papist? screw religion, which was handed down by god, or have a relationship with the bible. logic evades you. hence your dogma...
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Excuse me, I am not a Catholic but a born-again of the Spirit above Christian. Religion is the traditions of Man, something I do not ascribe to.
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My thoughts exactly (and probably less assholish than I would have gone with) The idea of a creator begs the question, who created the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator? And then, who created the creator of the creator of the creator? And then..... you should get the point.

Chaos seems so much simpler.
 Quoting: ParadoxLogos


Who put that chaos on? See, we're both opposite poles on the same magnet... Same shit. Life is a mystery, don't waste time trying to figure it out.
 Quoting: Eternium


Oh but you must because there will be consequences of poor choices and eternal life is at stake. How could anyone pass that up. Eternal life in paradise. I do not believe in eternal hellfire, that came from a mistranslation but people will die the second death and will be thrown into the lake of fire, annihilated forever. There will be winners and there will be losers. Which one will you be? The choice is yours.
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Grow up.
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Is that all you have? Grow up?
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Screw religion and have a personal relationship with your Almighty Creator. Only trust what God's word, the Bible says. It is the only 100% accurate historical holy book and not one of its thousands of Prophecy's have failed. What are the odds of that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3056946


which is it papist? screw religion, which was handed down by god, or have a relationship with the bible. logic evades you. hence your dogma...
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Excuse me, I am not a Catholic but a born-again of the Spirit above Christian. Religion is the traditions of Man, something I do not ascribe to.
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ok ex-papist, born again still smack of religion. so which is it fuk religion or embrace it?
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Who put that chaos on? See, we're both opposite poles on the same magnet... Same shit. Life is a mystery, don't waste time trying to figure it out.
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Oh but you must because there will be consequences of poor choices and eternal life is at stake. How could anyone pass that up. Eternal life in paradise. I do not believe in eternal hellfire, that came from a mistranslation but people will die the second death and will be thrown into the lake of fire, annihilated forever. There will be winners and there will be losers. Which one will you be? The choice is yours.
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Grow up.
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Is that all you have? Grow up?
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Yes, that is all I have.
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i think maybe, to bear witness.

whats the point of a giant universe if there's no one to see it?
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i think maybe, to bear witness.

whats the point of a giant universe if there's no one to see it?
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that's the whole point, there is no point. it just is. and it needs nothing to be...
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i think maybe, to bear witness.

whats the point of a giant universe if there's no one to see it?
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that's the whole point, there is no point. it just is. and it needs nothing to be...
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would it exist? without a witness?
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would it exist? without a witness?
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existence is not predicated on perception. because you perceive you are biased towards believing so...
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i think maybe, to bear witness.

whats the point of a giant universe if there's no one to see it?
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I am the universe, i am the creator, are we about to graduate
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There is no "why?" to it. We exist as a consequence of "here" existing.
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yes i believe the why will be answered in your lifetime
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Are we here to usher in the Golden Age?

Are we here to ascend with Mother Earth?

Are we here to experience a pole shift?
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