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THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***

 
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THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
INSIDE THE LINK YOU WILL FIND A PDF FILE THAT IS ABOUT 20 PAGES LONG THAT DETAILS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT A SALT CAVERN AND HOW EPA SAYS IT IS PERFECTLY FINE TO FILL THEM WITH OIL AND HYDROCARBONS.

YOU WILL ALSO SEE HOW THEY ARE FORMED... BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THERE IS A MAP OF ALL SALT CAVERNS IN THE U.S. THIS IS A MUST SEE

[link to www.evs.anl.gov]

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You will not believe what is on page 13.

Once the Cavern is full they cap it. They actually even say they know at first the pressure is low in the cavern, but then builds up and produces extreme heat due to the material inside. They even say it begins to shift the surrounding rock and it will actually begin to crack and leak.


ARE YOU GETTING THIS GLP COME ON.
THIS NEED PINNED.

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HERE IS THE LAST PORTION ON PAGE 13


Both of these processes cause the internal cavern fluid pressure to rise. Some
researchers have suggested that the pressure will increase to a point that the
cavern walls crack or leak


THIS IS CRAZY I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY KNOW THIS AND CONTINUE TO DO IT.
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
MAYBE I NEED TO MODIFY MY TITLE TO GET SOME FREAKIN ATTENTION ON HERE. ANY SUGGESTIONS.
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It's insanity OP. agreed.
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It's insanity OP. agreed.
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SO WHAT DO YOU THINK CHANGE THE TITLE TO SOMETHING LIKE...

EPA ALLOWS OIL, HYDROCARBONS AND OTHER TOXINS INTO SALT CAVERNS

OR BETTER YET

THE TRUE REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED***PDF FILE INSIDE***
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
If you really want to see something disturbing, watch the new documentary titled "GASLAND". I watched it last night. The devastation the government and these mega energy corporations are wreaking on this planet is beyond words.

May those directly involved each be held accountable.
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If you really want to see something disturbing, watch the new documentary titled "GASLAND". I watched it last night. The devastation the government and these mega energy corporations are wreaking on this planet is beyond words.

May those directly involved each be held accountable.
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THIS PDF FILE IS LIKE 20 PAGES LONG SO HOW MUCH OF IT CAN I ACTUALLY POST ON HERE
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
SO DO I NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE THREAD OR WHAT TO GET THIS THING PINNED.

IS EVERYONE THINKING NO SHIT SHERLOCK WE KNOW THE SALT CAVERNS ARE USED FOR OIL AND HYDROCARBONS.

REALLY COME ON GLP
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And you thought the strategic oil reserve was where?
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And you thought the strategic oil reserve was where?
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NO I KNEW IT WAS THERE, BUT NEVER ACTUALLY FOUND ANYTHING STATING THEY NEW IT WOULD CRACK AND LEAK...HELLO
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IS EVERYONE THINKING NO SHIT SHERLOCK WE KNOW THE SALT CAVERNS ARE USED FOR OIL AND HYDROCARBONS.

 Quoting: Lost N Dying World








DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!

So you finally woke up are you ready for your coffee now?
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SNIPPED FROM PAGE 14

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE...



How Might Caverns Leak?
1. A new well could inadvertently be drilled into an old,
closed disposal cavern. Some portion of the cavern fluids
might mix with the drilling fluids of the well being drilled
and be circulated to the surface pit or tank. They might
then overflow to the land surface.

2. The plug in the closed cavern well could fail, and fluids
could begin moving up the well bore. Fluids could escape
if they moved upward behind the well casing or out
through holes in the casing either near the depth of the
cavern or nearer the surface.

3. Fluids could escape through the sides of the caverns
through cracks or, in bedded salts, through the more
permeable rock layers between the salt layers.
4. The roof of the cavern could collapse, allowing the
cavern fluids to escape. Fluids could move up the well
bore and be released at the top of the cavern or nearer

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IS EVERYONE THINKING NO SHIT SHERLOCK WE KNOW THE SALT CAVERNS ARE USED FOR OIL AND HYDROCARBONS.

 Quoting: Lost N Dying World








DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!

So you finally woke up are you ready for your coffee now?
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ALREADY HAD 3 CUPS TODAY. GIVE ME A BREAK, IT WAS A POOR SELECTION, SO I CHANGED IT. I LAY MONEY THAT IT STILL DOESN'T GET PINNED.
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
Look OP you're worried about oil BIG DEAL what you should be worried about is the nuclear waste they pump in!

Say did they start filling that one just north of Houston yet? They were going to fill it with nuke waste. HHHHMMMMM I wonder what happens to the water table?

And yes it's been common knowledge to many since the early 80s and I suspect longer and just the gov.
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That was to say NOT JUST THE GOV
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
They question is asked in the pdf file what would happen if it did begin to leak. What would happen to the material? Well it is assumed that they would begin migrating horizontally away from the cavern and could mix with groundwater used for drinking water
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Doesn't look good for Michigan and Ohio.bump
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chill..


caps..

there you go..
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Wow, I just can't get my head around why they would use these caverns for storage knowing this.
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Look OP you're worried about oil BIG DEAL what you should be worried about is the nuclear waste they pump in!

Say did they start filling that one just north of Houston yet? They were going to fill it with nuke waste. HHHHMMMMM I wonder what happens to the water table?

And yes it's been common knowledge to many since the early 80s and I suspect longer and just the gov.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10372663


I'm not worried about just the oil, don't think that only because I only listed oil and hydrocarbons. I know they put a lot of other materials into these things. All I am trying to do is simply show they know the risk and it is right here in front of us yet we do nothing. So know we have this huge sinkhole that they knew could happen in the worst possible area.
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chill..


caps..

there you go..
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I know, I know
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Has anyone actually seen this document before.

[link to www.evs.anl.gov]
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Doesn't look good for Michigan and Ohio.bump
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And all that fresh water
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Here is one more document hope it links

dnr.louisiana.gov/assets/OC/im.../6_PRES_CLASSI_CAVERNS.pptx
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Thanks for the information, will read it - hard to believe the things we do with full knowledge of the possible ramifications.
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Has anyone actually seen this document before.

[link to www.evs.anl.gov]
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


Nope. Well I haven't.
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We realy had a big one here like a circle only eh about 6000km wide.

A month ago i think very small in elevation.
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Re: THE REAL REASON THE SINKHOLE FORMED==THEY NEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN==***PDF FILE INSIDE***
I love how they state such grave information in such a 'cute' little 'brochure' type report! lol!

But seriously, this is great info, especially for GLPers who may not be aware of what a salt cavern is and how it could fail AND it is very telling that they knew the risks involved...

Thanks for posting this

hf
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bump

Trying to absorb all that I am reading. My first thought is that the EPA sucks!
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"If fluids actually left the cavern, it is assumed that they
would begin migrating horizontally away from the cavern
and could mix with groundwater used for drinking water."

"Most of the radiological components of NORM wastes would
become bound up by soils and rocks such that only very
low concentrations of those components would ever reach
the drinking water well."

Wow, hope you got your Rad-Away ready and I thought fluoride in our water was bad...
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