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# the truth about electricity, voltage, n current

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10/23/2012 08:30 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
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10/23/2012 08:31 PM
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Ohm my Gawd.
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10/23/2012 08:33 PM
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Interesting...
Anonymous Coward
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10/23/2012 08:35 PM
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There has always been alternating thoeries on this.
You come across very direct though?
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10/23/2012 08:36 PM
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There has always been alternating thoeries on this.
You come across very direct though?

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There will be resistance

last one
I just don't give a fuck

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10/23/2012 08:39 PM

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I'm all amped up over this thread.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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10/23/2012 08:41 PM
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Eventually I thought to myself... how do they know there are electrons traveling in the wire?

I realized that when using an ammeters and voltmeters we were always measuring the magnetic field.

No 'electron theory' necessary.

And we don't use 'electrons' for anything.

Either we want the wire to heat up.

Or we are creating magnetic fields, to turn motors, or transmit information.

So after measuring and visualizing magnetic fields long enough you realize that they are the same shape as sonic fields around vibrating objects, and behave basically the same.

Then... just to confirm everything. If you look up any modern textbooks on electrons, you'll find that the idea of electrons orbiting a nucleus has been completely abandoned. With the latest imaging instead being all about fluid-like shells of varying density.

So... what's the confusion?
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10/23/2012 08:42 PM
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Watt ?
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10/23/2012 08:51 PM
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Eventually I thought to myself... how do they know there are electrons traveling in the wire?

I realized that when using an ammeters and voltmeters we were always measuring the magnetic field.

No 'electron theory' necessary.

And we don't use 'electrons' for anything.

Either we want the wire to heat up.

Or we are creating magnetic fields, to turn motors, or transmit information.

So after measuring and visualizing magnetic fields long enough you realize that they are the same shape as sonic fields around vibrating objects, and behave basically the same.

Then... just to confirm everything. If you look up any modern textbooks on electrons, you'll find that the idea of electrons orbiting a nucleus has been completely abandoned. With the latest imaging instead being all about fluid-like shells of varying density.

So... what's the confusion?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

Fluid like shells kinda like planetary orbits all certain distances from the sun?
Anonymous Coward
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10/23/2012 08:57 PM
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I've thought about this stuff myself alot. I am also ex-navy (opticalman). I understand, electrically, what Tesla was trying to do except I don't understand how he was going to transmit it around the earth.
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10/23/2012 09:05 PM
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Is this theory current?
Sounds pretty plausible once you plug everything in.
Only those who are relatively grounded can understand theories such as you have stated.
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10/23/2012 09:07 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.
The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.
So this we know as 60Hz ...yes? Our 120v service.(Home)
535
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10/23/2012 09:13 PM
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Fools.
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10/23/2012 09:17 PM
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Fools.
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Would you mind 3 phasing that, or should I say rephrasing that?
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10/23/2012 09:17 PM
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10/23/2012 09:17 PM
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Fools.
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Maybe your Mother should have grounded you, eh?
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10/23/2012 09:18 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

i think you are misunderstanding what an electron is. an electron is made of the same matter as its proton is. it positions its self around the proton using the two magnetic fields(one field from the proton one from the electron). the interaction of these two causes energy to be produced. the energy travels in a wave, which is how it moves through other matter. and yes the vastness of the universe is full of potential for electricity
Keep2theCode

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10/23/2012 09:19 PM
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Anode I shouldn'ta clicked on this thread.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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10/23/2012 09:19 PM
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535?

Bwhahshahahhahhahaa
TDJ

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10/23/2012 09:21 PM
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You know nothing of electricity
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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jhamil76

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10/23/2012 09:24 PM
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im a xray tech. we're taught that electrons are boiled off a tungsten filament at the cathode. and then the electrons flow across the tube that slam into an anode target releasing photons. if there are no electrons what creates the photons we use for xraying people?
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10/23/2012 09:27 PM
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Thanks OP, love talking about current events.
535
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10/23/2012 09:31 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

i think you are misunderstanding what an electron is. an electron is made of the same matter as its proton is. it positions its self around the proton using the two magnetic fields(one field from the proton one from the electron). the interaction of these two causes energy to be produced. the energy travels in a wave, which is how it moves through other matter. and yes the vastness of the universe is full of potential for electricity
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Correct. As is the "X-Ray Technician".
Anonymous Coward
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10/23/2012 09:34 PM
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I say we just stick a bunch of antenae straight up and out into space, see what we get.

We'd be a giant flying pin cushion!
anonymous coward
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10/23/2012 09:34 PM
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Thinking is NOT the scientific method. Where did you graduate from high school? Robert Milliken ring a bell?
TDJ

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10/23/2012 09:40 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

electron is not a unit of measurement. A volt is a unit of measurement.

The "vibration" is measured in Hertz.

Current is measured in Amps.

Resistance is measured in Ohms.

Farads are a measure of capacitance.

I just completed a 6000 hour apprenticeship concerning electricity and it's production and distribution.

I am not trying to brow beat you but want to correct your interpretation of how electricity works

Do yourself a favor and order one of these... [link to www.uglysbooks.com]
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
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10/23/2012 09:43 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
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Go back to college, and get your money back.
535
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10/23/2012 09:44 PM
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

electron is not a unit of measurement. A volt is a unit of measurement.

The "vibration" is measured in Hertz.

Current is measured in Amps.

Resistance is measured in Ohms.

Farads are a measure of capacitance.

I just completed a 6000 hour apprenticeship concerning electricity and it's production and distribution.

I am not trying to brow beat you but want to correct your interpretation of how electricity works

Do yourself a favor and order one of these... [link to www.uglysbooks.com]
Quoting: TDJ

Excellent.

A "Nuke" in the United States Navy indeed...
Anonymous Coward
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10/23/2012 09:48 PM
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What does the electron gun of the CRT "fire" if not electrons? What excites the screen phosphors?
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