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the truth about electricity, voltage, n current

 
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There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
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electron is not a unit of measurement. A volt is a unit of measurement.

The "vibration" is measured in Hertz.

Current is measured in Amps.

Resistance is measured in Ohms.

Farads are a measure of capacitance.

I just completed a 6000 hour apprenticeship concerning electricity and it's production and distribution.

I am not trying to brow beat you but want to correct your interpretation of how electricity works


Do yourself a favor and order one of these... [link to www.uglysbooks.com]
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the vibration is not a hert. A hert is when the magnetic field expands, rotating one direction, reaches a peak, and then shrinks, reverses rotation, and then peaks again.

That is one hert.

According to the textbook, an amp is a measure of how many electrons flow past a point per second.

But... this is just an inference, based on the incorrect fact that electrons are flowing in the first place. They are not.

The "resistance" you talked about. Wow. Yeah. It is measured. How do you think they measure it? How do you think they know it? They have a reference. Like I said. They get the strength of the magnetic field, produced in that circuit. They call that one amp. The reference has one ohm of resistance. And the energy source is said to have one volt.

Using these references, they then hook up various circuits to their 1 volt energy source. When the circuit is found to have a larger or smaller magnetic field than the reference circuit, they say it has larger or smaller resistance.

In fact, vacuum tubes, like florescent lights, have a negative resistance.

So... sorry. Read all the textbooks you want kid, and keep making good grades. Doesn't mean you know anything.
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Its called a "cycle" not a hert. The peaks and valleys of the cycle are called Compression and Rarefaction, or the Crest and Trough.
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10/24/2012 11:24 AM
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There has always been alternating thoeries on this.
You come across very direct though?
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There will be resistance

cruise
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Resistance is futile!
Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.
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Re: the truth about electricity, voltage, n current
There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

Nobody said the universe is electrical, it doesn't make sense to say this as electricity is flow of electrons and there can only be electron flow locally in the universe. There have to be somewhere holes, and somewhere else too many electrons, and then a flow can occur, and of course this is purely local as the flow occurs between these 2 places.

Although this may look like rocket science, it isn't.
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10/25/2012 11:23 AM
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Re: the truth about electricity, voltage, n current
There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter.

Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency.

The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field.

The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get.

However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength.
A different current.

So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'.

Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people.
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1rof1

You should really stop. You're going to misguide the children!

No, I'm serious. Stop this nonsense! Unless you can describe how the PN junction of a semiconductor works in this mis-labeled and misguided electrical theory of yours that has no electrons, you are just making a jack-ass of yourself... At least to those of us who build functioning circuits based on the lies from our books in our confusion about the electron.
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So help me out here. No puns to contribute.

So I put some water in an electric skillet, plug "electricity" into the pan, and the resistance(or heat of resistance) of the pan heats the water. Very simple.


Buuuttt. What I really want to know is how can I get electricity from heated matter. Can we reverse the skillet/water thing. The atmosphere around us, in fact everything higher than absolute zero, is filled with heat that we need to translate into electrical energy.

So can a Tesla coil receive the electrical energy that fills the air and can it be processed to provide electrical energy that we can use?


OP?
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They already did this back in 2010.

LED converts heat into light

A light-emitting diode (LED) that emits more light energy than it consumes in electrical energy has been unveiled by researchers in the US. The device – which has a conventional efficiency of greater than 200% – behaves as a kind of optical heat pump that converts lattice vibrations into infrared photons, cooling its surroundings in the process. The possibility of such a device was first predicted in 1957, but a practical version had proved impossible to create until now. Potential applications of the phenomenon include energy-efficient lighting and cryogenic refrigeration.

[link to physicsworld.com]


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11/25/2012 11:15 PM
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Well what is a universe?
A portfolio.

What does a portfolio consist of?
Securities

What are securities measured by?
Index'

What are index' measured by?
Percentiles

What are percentiles measured by?
Their integers, their values, their frequencies,
their units of measurements, their vibrations
that correlate to differentials at poly-gamma
functions throughout the gamma wave.
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11/25/2012 11:19 PM
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Ohm my Gawd.
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Watt the fuck?
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11/26/2012 01:26 AM
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Re: the truth about electricity, voltage, n current
There's a ton I wanted to say about this, but it's taking me too long! so just this..
I was just looking into a lot of this stuff last night -

I found that electricity and magnetism are the SAME thing. This is completely science mainstream and the current! state of knowledge.

You are RIGHT about no such thing as an electron, or even the almighty atom! - except as you said, a handy measurement. I believed these things as proven to physically exist, but they aren't! whaaaat!
They exist only MATHEMATICALLY! wow, really kinda blew my mind.
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1rof1

You should really stop. You're going to misguide the children!

No, I'm serious. Stop this nonsense! Unless you can describe how the PN junction of a semiconductor works in this mis-labeled and misguided electrical theory of yours that has no electrons, you are just making a jack-ass of yourself... At least to those of us who build functioning circuits based on the lies from our books in our confusion about the electron.
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It seems logical that knowing methods of using the effects of Something -- is not the same as knowing what the Something is.
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Excellent! "Ohm my Gawd!!" WTF? It's the Law! <grin>



Ohm my Gawd.
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