the truth about electricity, voltage, n current | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25878315 Australia 10/23/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26118779 Italy 10/23/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24469727 Canada 10/23/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25878315 Australia 10/23/2012 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 25032474 United States 10/23/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all amped up over this thread. If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21926154 United States 10/23/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a 'nuke' in the navy. Had to think about this stuff a lot. Eventually I thought to myself... how do they know there are electrons traveling in the wire? I realized that when using an ammeters and voltmeters we were always measuring the magnetic field. No 'electron theory' necessary. And we don't use 'electrons' for anything. Either we want the wire to heat up. Or we are creating magnetic fields, to turn motors, or transmit information. So after measuring and visualizing magnetic fields long enough you realize that they are the same shape as sonic fields around vibrating objects, and behave basically the same. Then... just to confirm everything. If you look up any modern textbooks on electrons, you'll find that the idea of electrons orbiting a nucleus has been completely abandoned. With the latest imaging instead being all about fluid-like shells of varying density. So... what's the confusion? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14105059 United States 10/23/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25559036 United States 10/23/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a 'nuke' in the navy. Had to think about this stuff a lot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Eventually I thought to myself... how do they know there are electrons traveling in the wire? I realized that when using an ammeters and voltmeters we were always measuring the magnetic field. No 'electron theory' necessary. And we don't use 'electrons' for anything. Either we want the wire to heat up. Or we are creating magnetic fields, to turn motors, or transmit information. So after measuring and visualizing magnetic fields long enough you realize that they are the same shape as sonic fields around vibrating objects, and behave basically the same. Then... just to confirm everything. If you look up any modern textbooks on electrons, you'll find that the idea of electrons orbiting a nucleus has been completely abandoned. With the latest imaging instead being all about fluid-like shells of varying density. So... what's the confusion? Fluid like shells kinda like planetary orbits all certain distances from the sun? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25559036 United States 10/23/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24469727 Canada 10/23/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24469727 Canada 10/23/2012 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. So this we know as 60Hz ...yes? Our 120v service.(Home) |
535 User ID: 1326993 United States 10/23/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24469727 Canada 10/23/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21534706 United Kingdom 10/23/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24469727 Canada 10/23/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12527214 United States 10/23/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. i think you are misunderstanding what an electron is. an electron is made of the same matter as its proton is. it positions its self around the proton using the two magnetic fields(one field from the proton one from the electron). the interaction of these two causes energy to be produced. the energy travels in a wave, which is how it moves through other matter. and yes the vastness of the universe is full of potential for electricity |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 10/23/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25878315 Australia 10/23/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
TDJ User ID: 26171481 United States 10/23/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know nothing of electricity If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
jhamil76 User ID: 12725843 United States 10/23/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13199962 United States 10/23/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
535 User ID: 1326993 United States 10/23/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. i think you are misunderstanding what an electron is. an electron is made of the same matter as its proton is. it positions its self around the proton using the two magnetic fields(one field from the proton one from the electron). the interaction of these two causes energy to be produced. the energy travels in a wave, which is how it moves through other matter. and yes the vastness of the universe is full of potential for electricity Correct. As is the "X-Ray Technician". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22573986 United States 10/23/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
anonymous coward User ID: 1511304 United States 10/23/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
TDJ User ID: 26171481 United States 10/23/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. electron is not a unit of measurement. A volt is a unit of measurement. The "vibration" is measured in Hertz. Current is measured in Amps. Resistance is measured in Ohms. Farads are a measure of capacitance. I just completed a 6000 hour apprenticeship concerning electricity and it's production and distribution. I am not trying to brow beat you but want to correct your interpretation of how electricity works Do yourself a favor and order one of these... [link to www.uglysbooks.com] If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26141710 United States 10/23/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. Go back to college, and get your money back. |
535 User ID: 1326993 United States 10/23/2012 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as an electron. It is just a handy unit of measurement, comparable to a gram, or liter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154 Electrical energy in a wire, is simply the wire vibrating at a certain frequency. The "current" in a wire is the strength of the magnetic field. The "voltage" in a wire is simply a reference. It means, if you plugged a reference wire into the energy source, that is the strength of the magnetic field you would get. However, the wire you plug into the energy source will be different. It will have a different resistance, so you will get a magnetic field around the wire of a different strength. A different current. So is the universe electrical? Well... the universe consists of motion. Some of that motion occurs in the frequencies we call 'electrical'. Nothing mystical or complex about any of this. Except that the textbooks are full of lies to confuse people. electron is not a unit of measurement. A volt is a unit of measurement. The "vibration" is measured in Hertz. Current is measured in Amps. Resistance is measured in Ohms. Farads are a measure of capacitance. I just completed a 6000 hour apprenticeship concerning electricity and it's production and distribution. I am not trying to brow beat you but want to correct your interpretation of how electricity works Do yourself a favor and order one of these... [link to www.uglysbooks.com] Excellent. A "Nuke" in the United States Navy indeed... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24009796 United States 10/23/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Life and Love User ID: 18613580 United States 10/23/2012 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9170468 United States 10/23/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |