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Why was the Truth hidden?

 
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man hates god and wishes to have power like god
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I have no money and they dont control me. There is an influence because of the world i live in. But not 100% control
 Quoting: Qarley


Oh they control you babe.

You have a job you HAVE to go to, right?

THAT is Control.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You are correct but not all the way. They do have an influence on my life. i have to pay my bills. i have to go to work. I have to eat. But i could find alternate ways. It may not be a quality of life accepted by society. But i have met plenty of crazy homeless people. some who are 70. I control how i treat others. I control my body . At least more than they do. There is still a percentage of my life that is not controlled by them
 Quoting: Qarley


I am trying to teach you to not be denial on how much your life is controlled by people with more power than you.

And this realization is what causes people to SEEK POWER.

For more Freedom of Choice.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



I do not doubt the influence. But power is created by man. there are parts of my that arent manmade.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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He hates the fact the he too is also controlled
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what if instead i hunted.. just saying
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You don't hunt.

So your "what if" hypothetical statement is irrelevant.

SEEK POWER with your response. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I have hunted. I choose not to because i can go the grocery store. I do not seek power. I do not seek
 Quoting: Qarley


Don't be passive aggressive about it.

Women SEEK POWER in other ways than men.

THINK about the ways you SEEK POWER.

I can imagine you dress sexy sometimes. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Usually conservative sexy. Its hard to classify sexy when everyone has different tastes. And i prefer people to not look at me. As a woman i don't use the power. I can be passive aggressive. I can be me at all times. I live in a universe that constantly changes. I can not stand firmly in one place.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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He hates the fact the he too is also controlled
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we all hate being controlled. it sucks. But i choose to focus my attention on the few things that belong to me and me only.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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You are correct but not all the way. They do have an influence on my life. i have to pay my bills. i have to go to work. I have to eat. But i could find alternate ways. It may not be a quality of life accepted by society. But i have met plenty of crazy homeless people. some who are 70. I control how i treat others. I control my body . At least more than they do. There is still a percentage of my life that is not controlled by them
 Quoting: Qarley


I am trying to teach you to not be denial on how much your life is controlled by people with more power than you.

And this realization is what causes people to SEEK POWER.

For more Freedom of Choice.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I do not doubt the influence. But power is created by man. there are parts of my that arent manmade.
 Quoting: Qarley


THINK

Women have more Power than men.

Behind every Great Man is...

A Great Woman
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

I believe women are very powerful. But that doesnt mean we have to use that power. Secondly. Men are just as powerful. I have never agreed with one sex being above the other. Thats impossible because they can not exist without the other
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I do not doubt the influence. But power is created by man. there are parts of my that arent manmade.
 Quoting: Qarley


THINK

Women have more Power than men.

Behind every Great Man is...

A Great Woman
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

I believe women are very powerful. But that doesnt mean we have to use that power. Secondly. Men are just as powerful. I have never agreed with one sex being above the other. Thats impossible because they can not exist without the other
 Quoting: Qarley


COME WITH ME on this journey.

You know you want to agree with me.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Nope i find beauty in the statement agree to disagree. Especially on the subject of one sex being better than the other. Balance. Harmony.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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Knowledge is power..Just because someone claims they have the truth one minute does not make it the truth the next..We live in an ever changing universe..The truth can change in a flash..For the one hiding the truth ...His or her truth may become no longer valid..Hence..The fall and Rise of Empires..So in close to keep truth hidden to is to keep until it expires..

hf
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If the truth was mutable, it wouldn't be the truth.

And if you knew anything regarding the subject, you'd shut the Hell up.
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man has never robbed god..even the souls that man take go right back to god..Those souls return to earth or where ever god sends them ..Man is only spinning his wheels in his childish understanding...

hf
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they keep them from finding their higher self within, in that way they have robbed GOD of the Kingdom within them.
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I believe women are very powerful. But that doesnt mean we have to use that power. Secondly. Men are just as powerful. I have never agreed with one sex being above the other. Thats impossible because they can not exist without the other
 Quoting: Qarley


COME WITH ME on this journey.

You know you want to agree with me.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Nope i find beauty in the statement agree to disagree. Especially on the subject of one sex being better than the other. Balance. Harmony.
 Quoting: Qarley


Did I say one was better than the other?

Use your feminine intuition and

Listen.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

my bad, powerful...lost in translation. still one sex is not more powerful than the other.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I would like to see the many GLP reasons that exist on why it is being Kept from us. Why did someone or something or everything decide it was necessary to with hold this information? Was it an agenda.. or decided on a whim???? Just curious to see the theories that exist while i try to develop my own.. This was a recent thought
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How else do you simultaneously rob 300 million people living in the formerly richest country on Earth?

Raise an entire generation on the TeeVee, breed them into drooling over sports, and find perfect liars to stand as figureheads.
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Nope i find beauty in the statement agree to disagree. Especially on the subject of one sex being better than the other. Balance. Harmony.
 Quoting: Qarley


Did I say one was better than the other?

Use your feminine intuition and

Listen.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes

my bad, powerful...lost in translation. still one sex is not more powerful than the other.
 Quoting: Qarley


yinyang
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so now you are agreeing with me?
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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my bad, powerful...lost in translation. still one sex is not more powerful than the other.
 Quoting: Qarley


yinyang
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


so now you are agreeing with me?
 Quoting: Qarley


Only if that makes you Feel Powerful :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I don't want power. Then again if i ever want to achieve anything that takes some power. But i do not wish to use power. Especially for manipulation. I would prefer you to use your own power and come to your own decision
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I would prefer you to use your own power and come to your own decision
 Quoting: Qarley


Now we are getting somewhere

tounge
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so you think.. however i still see us as where we were when we started this. Power exists, but it is not absolute
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I would prefer you to use your own power and come to your own decision
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Now we are getting somewhere

tounge
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so you think.. however i still see us as where we were when we started this. Power exists, but it is not absolute
 Quoting: Qarley


Why did you get on a Power tangent when this thread was about Truth.

What is Truth to YOU?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


it wasnt about truth. It was about why people hide the truth. Power seems to be a common conclusion.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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I would prefer you to use your own power and come to your own decision
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Now we are getting somewhere

tounge
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so you think.. however i still see us as where we were when we started this. Power exists, but it is not absolute
 Quoting: Qarley


Why did you get on a Power tangent when this thread was about Truth.

What is Truth to YOU?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


truth is whatever still exists at the end of infinity.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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so you think.. however i still see us as where we were when we started this. Power exists, but it is not absolute
 Quoting: Qarley


Why did you get on a Power tangent when this thread was about Truth.

What is Truth to YOU?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


truth is whatever still exists at the end of infinity.
 Quoting: Qarley


Did you read that on a Fortune Cookie? lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


nope. thought of it all by myself.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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truth is whatever still exists at the end of infinity.
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Did you read that on a Fortune Cookie? lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


nope. thought of it all by myself.
 Quoting: Qarley


What if Truth is not found at infinity but rather at Absolute Zero
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


they are the same thing. An unexplainable point of existence where everything just stops moving and just is.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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nope. thought of it all by myself.
 Quoting: Qarley


What if Truth is not found at infinity but rather at Absolute Zero
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


they are the same thing. An unexplainable point of existence where everything just stops moving and just is.
 Quoting: Qarley


Don't stop the flow lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


there is truth
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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It is assumed, since the beginning, that information is being kept from us. Whether it has been religious, spiritual, political... etc.. I am curious. I would like to see the many GLP reasons that exist on why it is being Kept from us. Why did someone or something or everything decide it was necessary to with hold this information? Was it an agenda.. or decided on a whim???? Just curious to see the theories that exist while i try to develop my own.. This was a recent thought
 Quoting: Qarley


Imho and it what resonates with me after exploring...

Goes way back...
To the beginning of creation, there was a little flaw, a little fear within the first relation
Before creation there was no light nor darkness, just one, just being (if you can even call i that, but the language are created in duality, and are not easy to use describing non-duality)
When creation 'happened' it was the light (symbolized by unicorn) that wanted to play express itself.
The darkness was closest connected with the uncreated, and was more like the silent 'being' part of creation... The raw material for creation... Energy (symbolized with the dragon)
In creation and all beings created there was little flaw
The uncreated/nothingness is pure love, unmirrored
The first relation, which was the one between light and darkness (being the first two descendants of nothingness) was love, but not fully pure
There was a little fear both ways
The darkness feared that the light would forget about the darkness in its playfulness
And the light feared that the darkness would dissolve it back to uncreated in its depth and silence
That small dobble edged fear made way for the lie to be born
The puppetmaster was the lie manifested
In the beginning there were a crystal clear cosmos which only grew slowly
There was a small bubble of lie, which grew very fast bc of its fear and secrecy... It wanted to protect itself, knowing it was a lie and if everybody saw this clearly it would dissolve, so it grew and had great secrecy
Slowly the lie took over creation, on earth it happened in atlantis and was fulfilled in ancient egypt
The fall
Old power-lusting souls created what they percieved as eternal life
A cycle of body-soul
Controlling time/space and channels of incarnation
Without respecting the original essential flame
The heart of the uncreated
The spirit, spark of true eternity and true love within
The true light dwells in the uncreated, the unmirrored flame
This flame was mirrored into creation originally in an almost pure form
The lie, step by step, dimmed down this flame, in order to control it and make hierachies and control out of it
Beings within creation followed even this dimmed down flame, bc it was what was there and their inner spark had deep longing
In reality they were trapped, manipulated and used for the old souls power wishes
That is why there is secrecy
Thats why there is lies
On the surface bc of control
Deeper bc of fear
Bc the lie fear it will be dissolved, bc it knows it is only dust, in reality
This age is the age of reality dawning
There are souls incarnating, through which the spirit can speak freely
Who remembers the original unmirrored pure flame
Which is eternal
This will bring rememberence and bring forth the pure flame into this creation, so that lie will become dust and the crystal clear universe rebuid
Through our awakened hearts

This is what resonates with me, see if any touch your heart... And remember the language is too controlled, so read between the lines

Much love to you, my friend
rose
just be love in truth...
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It is assumed, since the beginning, that information is being kept from us. Whether it has been religious, spiritual, political... etc.. I am curious. I would like to see the many GLP reasons that exist on why it is being Kept from us. Why did someone or something or everything decide it was necessary to with hold this information? Was it an agenda.. or decided on a whim???? Just curious to see the theories that exist while i try to develop my own.. This was a recent thought
 Quoting: Qarley


Imho and it what resonates with me after exploring...

Goes way back...
To the beginning of creation, there was a little flaw, a little fear within the first relation
Before creation there was no light nor darkness, just one, just being (if you can even call i that, but the language are created in duality, and are not easy to use describing non-duality)
When creation 'happened' it was the light (symbolized by unicorn) that wanted to play express itself.
The darkness was closest connected with the uncreated, and was more like the silent 'being' part of creation... The raw material for creation... Energy (symbolized with the dragon)
In creation and all beings created there was little flaw
The uncreated/nothingness is pure love, unmirrored
The first relation, which was the one between light and darkness (being the first two descendants of nothingness) was love, but not fully pure
There was a little fear both ways
The darkness feared that the light would forget about the darkness in its playfulness
And the light feared that the darkness would dissolve it back to uncreated in its depth and silence
That small dobble edged fear made way for the lie to be born
The puppetmaster was the lie manifested
In the beginning there were a crystal clear cosmos which only grew slowly
There was a small bubble of lie, which grew very fast bc of its fear and secrecy... It wanted to protect itself, knowing it was a lie and if everybody saw this clearly it would dissolve, so it grew and had great secrecy
Slowly the lie took over creation, on earth it happened in atlantis and was fulfilled in ancient egypt
The fall
Old power-lusting souls created what they percieved as eternal life
A cycle of body-soul
Controlling time/space and channels of incarnation
Without respecting the original essential flame
The heart of the uncreated
The spirit, spark of true eternity and true love within
The true light dwells in the uncreated, the unmirrored flame
This flame was mirrored into creation originally in an almost pure form
The lie, step by step, dimmed down this flame, in order to control it and make hierachies and control out of it
Beings within creation followed even this dimmed down flame, bc it was what was there and their inner spark had deep longing
In reality they were trapped, manipulated and used for the old souls power wishes
That is why there is secrecy
Thats why there is lies
On the surface bc of control
Deeper bc of fear
Bc the lie fear it will be dissolved, bc it knows it is only dust, in reality
This age is the age of reality dawning
There are souls incarnating, through which the spirit can speak freely
Who remembers the original unmirrored pure flame
Which is eternal
This will bring rememberence and bring forth the pure flame into this creation, so that lie will become dust and the crystal clear universe rebuid
Through our awakened hearts

This is what resonates with me, see if any touch your heart... And remember the language is too controlled, so read between the lines

Much love to you, my friend
rose
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thank you for that piece of you as always. you are amazing. Love for you from me.
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense."
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hugs
just be love in truth...
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What's funny to me is you look inside for Truth and outside for controllers?

Does that really make any sense....at all???????? Does anybody get the irony of this?????

just sayin'


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What's funny to me is you look inside for Truth and outside for controllers?

Does that really make any sense....at all???????? Does anybody get the irony of this?????

just sayin'


lmao
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If it is me you are refering to then, yes I do look inside for the truth, bc that is where to find it...
That is my experience in my life... You can't even trust your own senses, bc they are a product of this world...
From my experience we are not of this world, but in this world... That is why resonating at the deepest level for truth are aquired...
When that truth is touched (will always be an ongoing process) the urge to mirror that truth out in the world arises... Making sense inside out, honoring the balance of spirit, soul and body...
When that urge arises you will see clearly what hinders the flow...
Controllers are just a word, really we are all just sparks of the same heart of unity...
Controllers, controlled, masters and slaves are really just different words for beings who are caught within their fear which hinders free flow...
What is that of my business, you could ask... Well I hear the longing of the sparks, the spirits trapped within those fearfull beings...
Spirits are by nature free and wild, equal and eternal, and when trapped within a fearfull body (it be controller or controlled), they long so deep, crying for that unity, bc they need that pure flow of love...
Bc of that call i came here...
And i don't look for controllers, i look for love and look for to set the sparks, the spirits free, so that the balanced way of living, where body, soul as well as spirit are honored...
At that is no impossible dream, some of us still remember how it was...
These are my experiences, and if you resonate otherwise i fully respect that

Lots of love to you my friend
rose
just be love in truth...
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I would rather seek Wisdom from within than knowledge from outside yourself.
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Wisdom is formed in this manner:

Harmony
Understanding
Compassion
Knowledge

Once you have all of those, correctly oriented alignnment of the self + proper decision making + following through ..

Achieve internal harmony, one begins to gain understanding; with that understanding they realize that compssion is the necessary operating mode to re-inforce their vibration of harmony; which which knowledge begins to be gained.

That is how wisdom is formed.

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I would prefer you to use your own power and come to your own decision
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Now we are getting somewhere

tounge
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so you think.. however i still see us as where we were when we started this. Power exists, but it is not absolute
 Quoting: Qarley


The "Power" within is "Absolute". Harness the Light
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What's funny to me is you look inside for Truth and outside for controllers?

Does that really make any sense....at all???????? Does anybody get the irony of this?????

just sayin'


lmao
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes. Look inside for control and outside for agreement.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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it's because the stupid moronic middle classes who think they are better than anyone else - don't want the rest of us to know the truth, because they're so fucked up with their little mortgages, little bobby and johnny, their shit bmw and their boring vacation to marseilles once a year.
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What's funny to me is you look inside for Truth and outside for controllers?

Does that really make any sense....at all???????? Does anybody get the irony of this?????

just sayin'


lmao
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If it is me you are refering to then, yes I do look inside for the truth, bc that is where to find it...
That is my experience in my life... You can't even trust your own senses, bc they are a product of this world...
From my experience we are not of this world, but in this world... That is why resonating at the deepest level for truth are aquired...
When that truth is touched (will always be an ongoing process) the urge to mirror that truth out in the world arises... Making sense inside out, honoring the balance of spirit, soul and body...
When that urge arises you will see clearly what hinders the flow...
Controllers are just a word, really we are all just sparks of the same heart of unity...
Controllers, controlled, masters and slaves are really just different words for beings who are caught within their fear which hinders free flow...
What is that of my business, you could ask... Well I hear the longing of the sparks, the spirits trapped within those fearfull beings...
Spirits are by nature free and wild, equal and eternal, and when trapped within a fearfull body (it be controller or controlled), they long so deep, crying for that unity, bc they need that pure flow of love...
Bc of that call i came here...
And i don't look for controllers, i look for love and look for to set the sparks, the spirits free, so that the balanced way of living, where body, soul as well as spirit are honored...
At that is no impossible dream, some of us still remember how it was...
These are my experiences, and if you resonate otherwise i fully respect that

Lots of love to you my friend
rose
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I was just making a statement from what I was seeing in the thread. It wasn't directed at anyone, LOL! But, I love what you posted, you little love bug, you!!!!

hf
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