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Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.

 
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The District of Auschwitz, (the German name for Oswiecem) included the villages of Birkenau, Babitz, Broschkowitz, Klutschnikowitz, Dwory, Wlosieitz, Poremba-Wielka, Stare-Stawy, Zaborze, and Monowitz. The population of the District in 1939 was 25,507 according to the Mayor of Auschwitz.

It is important to understand the proximity of these camps to one another.
Auschwitz l (the main camp) is located a little over a mile from the camp at Birkenau (the quarantine camp) and about 3-4 miles from the Buna Works of IG Farben at Monowitz.

We must step back a little to learn what led up to Auschwitz becoming the focal point of the Allies, especially America in early 1942.

FDR did many things to provoke Japan into an “overt action” in the Pacific, (including a threat to blockade Japanese oil from Indonesia) but I don’t think he anticipated the ramifications of an attack on Pearl Harbor.

In his quest for war, FDR blundered dramatically and nearly lost the war soon after it started. He quickly realized that Japan controlled what had been the source of ninety per cent of America's rubber, Malaya and the East Indies.

At the start of the war the United States had a stockpile of about one million tons of natural rubber, and no commercial process to produce a general purpose synthetic rubber. Conserving, reclaiming, and stockpiling activities could not fill the gap in rubber consumption.

The emergency had been realized immediately after the attack on Pearl Harbor, because three days later, the U.S. government banned the sale of new automobile tires for civilian purposes. General rationing of rubber followed quickly. Early in 1942 it became clear that, if America was to continue with the war effort, a synthetic rubber industry would have to be created in record time. There was only one country in the world that had any success in manufacturing synthetic rubber...Germany.

Standard Oil of New Jersey had the essentials of the I. G. Farben Buna rubber process. This was on account of a series of agreements between the two companies, commencing in 1927, covering technical cooperation and mutual licensing arrangements. Standard was quite interested in Buna rubber because it could also be made (more easily) from oil and they could control the US market.

In October of 1930, the two companies formed the Joint American Study Company, or JASCO, as a forum for getting patents on joint projects. Through this arrangement, German Buna rubber technology came to America.

The cooperation continued, with the consent of the German government, right up to the outbreak of war and even, to some extent, after the outbreak of war. The American side benefited hugely from these arrangements, but the German side got almost nothing out of them.

The outbreak of war in September 1939 between Germany on the one hand and Poland, England and France on the other threw these arrangements between Farben and Standard into a certain amount of legal confusion, which need not be explored here.

The first German Buna plant was located at Schkopau, and employed a carbide-acetylene-butadiene process. At the Hüls plant the process was hydrocarbons-acetylene-butadiene. The new plant at Ludwigshafen, which was nearing completion when the Baruch Committee was meeting, had reverted to making the acetylene from carbide and had modernized the acetylene to butadiene stage.

Because either a carbide or a hydrocarbons process was potentially applicable to the processes to be employed in the U.S. it was no doubt of great interest whether Auschwitz (which was to be the benchmark for future synthetic rubber production) was to employ a carbide process (as was the case), suggesting abandonment of the hydrocarbons version on the basis of the Hüls experience, or was to employ a hydrocarbons or other process, suggesting failure to make a commitment to carbide processes.

There were two ways to gather this information. Through the spy network or aerial photography.
Aerial photography was heavily relied upon due to the fact that each process required the creation of a specific type of factory. The carbide process required the construction of a huge tower (which can be seen in images of Monowitz).

There are literally tens of thousands of aerial photographs of the Auschwitz Camps in US and British Archives. Globalsecurity .org has about 50 or so at this location.
[link to www.globalsecurity.org]

From Dino Brugioni, CIA Photo Analyst and author.

By modern standards, the photo interpretation equipment used in World War II can only be classified as primitive. Photo interpreters used stereoscopes with lenses capable of magnification four times the original imagery (about like that of a magnifying glass). In addition, tube magnifiers with a seven-time magnification capability were also used in scanning the aerial photos. Photo interpreters performed the interpretation from contact paper prints rather than film duplicates. We know today that the negatives from which some of the Auschwitz contract prints were made in World War II could have been enlarged up to 35 times.

Now to the prisoner situation. Here is a book written by one Arthur Dodd who was a British POW at Auschwitz.

[link to www.amazon.com]

For some time it was a common misconception that no British Prisoners Of War were imprisoned in Auschwitz. It was largely understood that the vast majority of prisoners at Auschwitz-Birkenau were innocent Jews with the remainder consisting of political prisoners, gypsies etc. While this is largely true, Arthur Dodd was in fact one of a number of British soldiers actually incarcerated there.

So the bottom line is this.

Auschwitz has been photographed thousands of times from at least late 1941 to the end of the war and probably beyond because the US needed the intelligence associated with the Buna process, and Britain (in my opinion) due to the POW situation.
The camps were practically side by side and located in a populated area. Photo analysts had the capability to enlarge images 35 times and were able to visualize the finest details in a photo.
Not one image has ever shown the alleged atrocities that were supposed to have been a daily occurrence.
No mass burning pits, no pillars of fire from chimneys, no prisoner’s being led to gas chambers, and no mass graves.

If a picture tells a thousand words, how many words do thousands of pictures tell?

Last Edited by Templar Knight on 10/24/2012 11:03 AM
The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.
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Now to the prisoner situation. Here is a book written by one Arthur Dodd who was a British POW at Auschwitz.

[link to www.amazon.com]

For some time it was a common misconception that no British Prisoners Of War were imprisoned in Auschwitz. It was largely understood that the vast majority of prisoners at Auschwitz-Birkenau were innocent Jews with the remainder consisting of political prisoners, gypsies etc. While this is largely true, Arthur Dodd was in fact one of a number of British soldiers actually incarcerated there.

So the bottom line is this.

Auschwitz has been photographed thousands of times from at least late 1941 to the end of the war and probably beyond because the US needed the intelligence associated with the Buna process, and Britain (in my opinion) due to the POW situation.
The camps were practically side by side and located in a populated area. Photo analysts had the capability to enlarge images 35 times and were able to visualize the finest details in a photo.
Not one image has ever shown the alleged atrocities that were supposed to have been a daily occurrence.
No mass burning pits, no pillars of fire from chimneys, no prisoner’s being led to gas chambers, and no mass graves.


If a picture tells a thousand words, how many words do thousands of pictures tell?
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Aerial photography is antisemitic! redface
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I'll bump this one time to see if there is any interest in discussion.
The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.
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Jesuit is an obvious Jesuit trying to write themselves out of history and war crimes.
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Damn good reading... makes you wonder... i want to see the photos myself though.
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Re: Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.
I'm fascinated at the Japan/rubber supply connection -- so many unintended consequences, and little known strategic implications. But is the whole point of this thread that it was not a death camp?
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Damn good reading... makes you wonder... i want to see the photos myself though.
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The photos are at the link I provided. They represent the best I have found to date on aerial photography of the camp.
The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.
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Re: Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.
I'm fascinated at the Japan/rubber supply connection -- so many unintended consequences, and little known strategic implications. But is the whole point of this thread that it was not a death camp?
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There are two points actually...
The first is that Roosevelt was so bent on getting into the war that he neglected to pay attention to the source of US rubber.

The second is that Auschwitz was under so much scrutiny during the war that it was impossible for mass murder on such a grand scale to have been perpetrated.
The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.
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This documentary agrees with what the OP stated...

Auschwitz was NOT a death camp:


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Re: Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.
Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention


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The Truth Concerning The Third Reich


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Re: Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.
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Re: Auschwitz revisted and how Roosevelt almost lost the war in the first week.
If the Japanese had so many rubbers, why are there so many Japanese?
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