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The Nobody is at the Crossroads. What should he do?

 
Saptaparna

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I look at it differently. The more you are attached to something, the less you can take action.

There is nothing wrong with knowing all there is to know, as long as you remain unattached to that knowing.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


You are already a member of one organization and thereby your voice is already compromised.

Can you remain unattached even after you have given an oath to be attached?

That is the rub...
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Well, that is something that can be debated.

I have learned much, much more from others, than I ever learned through this organization you speak of. Also, my philosophies and experiences remain detached in peculiar ways from those organizations.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


I am sure you have learned lots from that organization.

They would not have survived hundreds of years if that was not the case.

However, What is going to happen when a member of a rival group apart from your organization wants to catch your ear?

Will you will be so "unattached" in your decision making?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


A rival, huh...

It is not my place to say who is absolutely right, and who wrong. I discern those on my own, not from ones outside my self.

Any person who does otherwise is doing a disservice to themselves and others, BUT, only if they are remaining true to their self...which is one of the most difficult things to do.

How many times have YOU relied on others to speak of supposed truths to you, Alex, only later to find, they were not true?

EDIT: I have not learned very much at all, from supposed organization.

Last Edited by Saptaparna on 10/26/2012 09:12 PM
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It is not my place to say who is absolutely right, and who wrong.
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Ah but being the one in the world who EVERYONE looks at for Inspiration and Guidance you will be pressured to SHARE your opinion on almost EVERYTHING.

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It is not my place to say who is absolutely right, and who wrong.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Ah but being the one in the world who EVERYONE looks at for Inspiration and Guidance you will be pressured to SHARE your opinion on almost EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Not true, IMO.

Do you think Jesus or Buddha, etc., voiced all their internal dialogue to everyone in the world about everything?

I don't think so.
Saptaparna ~
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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How many times have YOU relied on others to speak of supposed truths to you, Alex, only later to find, they were not true?
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Many times.

And those journeys led me down many wrong roads.

However, during every road taken in life you learn something.

And become wiser for the next time.

So at some point you can guide yourself without needing a crutch of outside "advisors".

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I have not learned very much at all, from supposed organization.
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If given the chance to do it over again, would you have still joined it in the first place?
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Any person who does otherwise is doing a disservice to themselves and others, BUT, only if they are remaining true to their self...which is one of the most difficult things to do.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How do you make sure to remain true to yourself?
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It is not my place to say who is absolutely right, and who wrong.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Ah but being the one in the world who EVERYONE looks at for Inspiration and Guidance you will be pressured to SHARE your opinion on almost EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Not true, IMO.

Do you think Jesus or Buddha, etc., voiced all their internal dialogue to everyone in the world about everything?

I don't think so.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Look around Chad.

You will be required to share your opinion on EVERYTHING.

You are living in the 21st Century.

And if you are the Savior humanity has been waiting on for 2000 years.

You WILL be required to SPEAK YOUR MIND.

You WILL Give every ounce of energy you have.

You are their Idol.

Their Savior.

And who are you to take away THEIR Savior. :)

Now you See the Pressure that lies ahead.

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 10/26/2012 09:27 PM
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I have not learned very much at all, from supposed organization.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


If given the chance to do it over again, would you have still joined it in the first place?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Never. In my entire life, have have regretted nothing.
Saptaparna ~
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Any person who does otherwise is doing a disservice to themselves and others, BUT, only if they are remaining true to their self...which is one of the most difficult things to do.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How do you make sure to remain true to yourself?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Do not rely on others to define truth. Define truth, yourself.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Re: The Nobody is at the Crossroads. What should he do?
I have not learned very much at all, from supposed organization.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


If given the chance to do it over again, would you have still joined it in the first place?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Never. In my entire life, have have regretted nothing.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


That is because you are wise beyond your years.

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Re: The Nobody is at the Crossroads. What should he do?
Any person who does otherwise is doing a disservice to themselves and others, BUT, only if they are remaining true to their self...which is one of the most difficult things to do.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How do you make sure to remain true to yourself?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Do not rely on others to define truth. Define truth, yourself.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Truth is relative to the observation of the person.

If you want REAL TRUTH...

TRUTH is NATURAL LAWS.

Natural Laws are the Parameters of this Reality.

They are the SOURCE CODE.

That CANNOT be Broken.

UNLESS you are The Codewriter and have the Divine ABility to make rewrites. :)

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 10/26/2012 09:33 PM
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It is not my place to say who is absolutely right, and who wrong.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Ah but being the one in the world who EVERYONE looks at for Inspiration and Guidance you will be pressured to SHARE your opinion on almost EVERYTHING.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Not true, IMO.

Do you think Jesus or Buddha, etc., voiced all their internal dialogue to everyone in the world about everything?

I don't think so.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Look around Chad.

You will be required to share your opinion on EVERYTHING.

You are living in the 21st Century.

And if you are the Savior humanity has been waiting on for 2000 years.

You WILL be required to SPEAK YOUR MIND.

You WILL Give every ounce of energy you have.

You are their Idol.

Their Savior.

And who are you to take away THEIR Savior. :)

Now you See the Pressure that lies ahead.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I completely understand that, and have thought of consequences of my actions for nearly my life through.

Lessons learned does not mean they should be repeated, or that they hold more value than lessons that should not be experienced. But, it is the individuals holy right to experience those things if they wish, whether those lessons hurt or healed.

It is NOT about the savior, it is about the individual. It is not about replicating the actions of said savior, it is about the lessons learned.

No one should ever give up their right to Free Will. But they should be wary of violating the Rights of others Free Will.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I have not learned very much at all, from supposed organization.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


If given the chance to do it over again, would you have still joined it in the first place?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Never. In my entire life, have have regretted nothing.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


That is because you are wise beyond your years.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


lol, as I have been told.

There are many, many years of 'normal' life that can fit into the year of one life that has had extraordinary experiences for many. No?
Saptaparna ~
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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It is NOT about the savior, it is about the individual. It is not about replicating the actions of said savior, it is about the lessons learned.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


You have to understand and manage how your faithful view you.

Because they WILL view you as THEIR Savior.

And EVERY word you speak is GOSPEL.
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Any person who does otherwise is doing a disservice to themselves and others, BUT, only if they are remaining true to their self...which is one of the most difficult things to do.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How do you make sure to remain true to yourself?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Do not rely on others to define truth. Define truth, yourself.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Truth is relative to the observation of the person.

If you want REAL TRUTH...

TRUTH is NATURAL LAWS.

Natural Laws are the Parameters of this Reality.

They are the SOURCE CODE.

That CANNOT be Broken.

UNLESS you are The Codewriter and have the Divine ABility to make rewrites. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


That is wholly dependent upon whether you speak of localized reality, or universal reality.

Last Edited by Saptaparna on 10/26/2012 09:41 PM
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Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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It is NOT about the savior, it is about the individual. It is not about replicating the actions of said savior, it is about the lessons learned.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


You have to understand and manage how your faithful view you.

Because they WILL view you as THEIR Savior.

And EVERY word you speak is GOSPEL.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


And therein lies the problem.

It is actions and behavior that is beyond words that should matter. As words and language will be distorted. Hence the difference of what was, and what shall be.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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No one should ever give up their right to Free Will. But they should be wary of violating the Rights of others Free Will.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Considering the choices humanity has made as a collective, why do you believe that having Free Will is still of utmost importance?

We live in New Babylon.

Who made these Free Will choices :)
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There are many, many years of 'normal' life that can fit into the year of one life that has had extraordinary experiences for many. No?
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And how does one teach this philosophy to the common man?
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How do you make sure to remain true to yourself?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Do not rely on others to define truth. Define truth, yourself.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Truth is relative to the observation of the person.

If you want REAL TRUTH...

TRUTH is NATURAL LAWS.

Natural Laws are the Parameters of this Reality.

They are the SOURCE CODE.

That CANNOT be Broken.

UNLESS you are The Codewriter and have the Divine ABility to make rewrites. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


That is wholly dependent upon whether you speak of localized reality, or universal reality.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Define both realities.

In your own terms.
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It is NOT about the savior, it is about the individual. It is not about replicating the actions of said savior, it is about the lessons learned.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


You have to understand and manage how your faithful view you.

Because they WILL view you as THEIR Savior.

And EVERY word you speak is GOSPEL.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


And therein lies the problem.

It is actions and behavior that is beyond words that should matter. As words and language will be distorted. Hence the difference of what was, and what shall be.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


You are the message.

So how do you make sure YOUR words are NOT distorted?

How do you speak a Clear Message for All to follow?

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 10/26/2012 09:52 PM
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No one should ever give up their right to Free Will. But they should be wary of violating the Rights of others Free Will.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Considering the choices humanity has made as a collective, why do you believe that having Free Will is still of utmost importance?

We live in New Babylon.

Who made these Free Will choices :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Certainly not present humans, lol.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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There are many, many years of 'normal' life that can fit into the year of one life that has had extraordinary experiences for many. No?
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And how does one teach this philosophy to the common man?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


By others experiencing extraordinary experiences. Why do you think I asked Butcher if supernatural experiences were going to be visible by the common person in the supposed coming battle?

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Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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No one should ever give up their right to Free Will. But they should be wary of violating the Rights of others Free Will.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Considering the choices humanity has made as a collective, why do you believe that having Free Will is still of utmost importance?

We live in New Babylon.

Who made these Free Will choices :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Certainly not present humans, lol.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How can we help them EVOLVE to their next stage?

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 10/26/2012 10:01 PM
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Do not rely on others to define truth. Define truth, yourself.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Truth is relative to the observation of the person.

If you want REAL TRUTH...

TRUTH is NATURAL LAWS.

Natural Laws are the Parameters of this Reality.

They are the SOURCE CODE.

That CANNOT be Broken.

UNLESS you are The Codewriter and have the Divine ABility to make rewrites. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


That is wholly dependent upon whether you speak of localized reality, or universal reality.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Define both realities.

In your own terms.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Localized areas have different 'Laws' then universal areas.

I have proven that on many of my science threads.
Saptaparna ~
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Truth is relative to the observation of the person.

If you want REAL TRUTH...

TRUTH is NATURAL LAWS.

Natural Laws are the Parameters of this Reality.

They are the SOURCE CODE.

That CANNOT be Broken.

UNLESS you are The Codewriter and have the Divine ABility to make rewrites. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


That is wholly dependent upon whether you speak of localized reality, or universal reality.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Define both realities.

In your own terms.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Localized areas have different 'Laws' then universal areas.

I have proven that on many of my science threads.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And your proof is...

Your Opinion?
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No one should ever give up their right to Free Will. But they should be wary of violating the Rights of others Free Will.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Considering the choices humanity has made as a collective, why do you believe that having Free Will is still of utmost importance?

We live in New Babylon.

Who made these Free Will choices :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Certainly not present humans, lol.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How can we help them EVOLVE to their next stage?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Patience. But, think about how many years...centuries in fact, it took to get Jesus' values across to people. Then, a very short time later, all it took was some distortion to fuck it all up.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Considering the choices humanity has made as a collective, why do you believe that having Free Will is still of utmost importance?

We live in New Babylon.

Who made these Free Will choices :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Certainly not present humans, lol.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How can we help them EVOLVE to their next stage?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Patience. But, think about how many years...centuries in fact, it took to get Jesus' values across to people. Then, a very short time later, all it took was some distortion to fuck it all up.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


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That is wholly dependent upon whether you speak of localized reality, or universal reality.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Define both realities.

In your own terms.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Localized areas have different 'Laws' then universal areas.

I have proven that on many of my science threads.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And your proof is...

Your Opinion?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


No, that is why I said my science threads. It is proven that Laws that were once thought of as universal, are NOT universal laws. Why? Because it was thought the universe exists within a closed system. The universal is not a closed system. It is eternal and infinite...not just in three directions and a time, but in all directions exclusive of time.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Certainly not present humans, lol.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


How can we help them EVOLVE to their next stage?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Patience. But, think about how many years...centuries in fact, it took to get Jesus' values across to people. Then, a very short time later, all it took was some distortion to fuck it all up.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


1rof1
 Quoting: 1908247


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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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There are many, many years of 'normal' life that can fit into the year of one life that has had extraordinary experiences for many. No?
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And how does one teach this philosophy to the common man?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


By others experiencing extraordinary experiences. Why do you think I asked Butcher if supernatural experiences were going to be visible by the common person in the supposed coming battle?

thumbs
 Quoting: Saptaparna


So you want to show the uninitiated "Supernatural" experiences.

How do you think their brains will perceive such a phenomenon?

Back in 1492 the Supernatural were burned at the stake.

Can the masses handle such a drastic change in their psyche?

A "human" with Godlike Powers.

Will viewing those Powers frighten them?

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