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So You Want To Know The Bigger Picture, It's Just A Sinkhole Right?! Think Again and Wake The F%@# Up!!!

 
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We're all expendable, especially the soldiers. I AM a vet and can speak for that myself.
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If I may get Kelly AFB in here too, just as a footnote...
[link to www.healthandenvironment.org]

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"SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Amid suspicions of illnesses, dwindling property values and a pending lawsuit stemming from a contaminated aquifer running under Kelly Air Force Base and some 20,000 adjacent homes and businesses, the Air Force has agreed to clean the underwater source to drinking water standards.

Air Force officials plan to submit a cleanup plan to state regulators detailing up to five cleanup alternatives and recommending one, said Adam Antoine, director of environmental programs at Kelly for the Air Force Base Conversion Agency.

Kelly officials also have scheduled a Nov. 1 meeting to get public comment on the cleanup options, which include pump-and-treat wells throughout the contaminated area and monitored natural attenuation. Using natural attenuation, the Air Force would continue to capture pollutants on base, but let the polluted groundwater already off base degrade naturally over 30 years.

Mayor Howard Peak said the contamination is an issue affecting the entire city.

"First of all, we have the health and safety of many citizens, current and future, in the balance," Peak is quoted as saying in Sunday editions of the San Antonio Express-News. "Then we have the success of our redevelopment efforts at Kelly that could be influenced as well."

Residents have long been pointing to the air base as the source of atypically high rates of illnesses, including birth defects, low birth-weight babies, leukemia and liver, lung and kidney cancer, the newspaper said.

Recently, the Air Force began an investigation into whether 16 cases of Lou Gehrig's disease, including five deaths, are linked to environmental contaminants at Kelly"
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I totally agree on the fresh water debate.
Also look at who is investing in agricultural land, not only in the USA.
Water is like the cancer issue. They will never find a cure for cancer, just as they will never figure out how to de-salinate sea water.

Please OP educate your family. Time well spent.
 Quoting: Coldhand 7251284

I'm here and in reference to your comment, so is China and Russia.

The Chinese government bought a 200 acre plot of land 60mi south of me, they're building homes and business that will house and employ ONLY Chinese. Russia is buying land all over as well.
 Quoting: siniXster


They have been selling our country right from under us in the dark of the night. They will pay for it in the long run though. First we are not safe...next, they are not safe. They will get what is due to them
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Well, the LA sinkhole might be a plot to bring about the Navy map and population control as some may think, I am on the fence myself, but I suppose it could also just be a monumental screw up by greedy dumbfucks that don't give a rat's ass about anything else but putting cash in their own pockets! In either case, I see a whole lot of people getting the short end of the stick in the end. The GOM disaster NEVER went away no matter what the MSM may lead you to believe, and this problem is only just getting started as well. Did any of you ever have a leak in your roof that just went away on it's own? No I didn't think so.

The fact that it all ties in so neatly with the New Madrid Fault is especially disconcerting, and for me at least is the smoking gun.

There is an old tale about the military minds that I think is rather appropriate. Top military minds have always wanted the ultimate weapon. This weapon would be such as to be able to be used in a fashion that NO ONE could ever prove that you ever used it, like with, the weather for example . If you could control the weather, and let's say, make it not rain for a period of years on your enemies homeland, well they would have a hard time feeding their people now, wouldn't they? Maybe their government would collapse and you could help put in a new government that was more to your liking, no?

Or back at home, say you really needed to reduce the amount of useless eaters that your country was burdened with, perhaps you could create a natural disaster that would solve the problem for you, boost your economy at the same time, and allow all of the survivors to come together to get the job done. Some might call that a gift from God, or just lucky I guess? Laugh all you want, but THIS is how the Stars in the Pentagon think, and they have very, very big checking accounts.
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


Oh, but we pumped a bunch of water down there to fill up the voids!

Did you ever hear that line of shit? What a bunch of crap! They have been turning the very ground underneath us all into Swiss cheese and like nothing is going to come of that? Then they blow it up too with their fracking bullshit. They must really hate us to lie to us so poorly. At least they could have said they were pumping concrete down there, right? Not that we would have believed them. We are so screwed.
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I totally agree on the fresh water debate.
Also look at who is investing in agricultural land, not only in the USA.
Water is like the cancer issue. They will never find a cure for cancer, just as they will never figure out how to de-salinate sea water.

Please OP educate your family. Time well spent.
 Quoting: Coldhand 7251284


...and if you do de-salinate seawater (you can do it for free with solar distillers), they will make it illegal.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I agree.
 Quoting: Coldhand


Water Filtration system companies always wish to dominate this idea of water purification with their proprietary or technical equipment (no good for TSHTF for that reason.) , because there is money in it. Don't put any faith in that stuff for those reasons.

They will always say, "sure, you can desalinate sea water so long as you pay a bunch of money to a big company".

I on the other hand have produced solar water distillers for over 30 years, not as a career, but mostly personal distillers that I donate when I move on. The distilled water is much more pure than any filtered water, and distillers can be built from basically some trash that might be found on a desert island if it really comes down to it.

With 100sq ft of clear plastic sheet and some tubing I could set up a system that would produce 5 gallons distilled from sea water per day, and with the same amount of glass and stainless steel tubing I could produce a system that would produce 5 gallons a day distilled that would be free from those concerns of phalates in plastics.
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I look forward to more of your commentary. I too believe that the crack we saw up in Michigan is tied with the Louisana sinkhole. There is gonna be a big "something" to divide this country in the middle. Not only are they dividing us racially, but physically. Such a shame....we had such a wonderful country one time. Life was good before 2001. Since then .....it's been down hill. soap
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hahah no this country was built SHITTY it was NEVER good EVER if anyone this so they are delusional and easily manipulated in thinking so....
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It was the best. Not perfect, but there was none better. We had everthing we needed, in minerals, food, a temperate climate. And peace, nobody was attacking us.

Then 9/11 happened, it was pretended that an outsider attacked us (did an outsider ground our Air Force too?) and all sorts of shit was implemented with that as an excuse. But we have still this great piece of land. And a pretty good population, though massive immigration from the south is putting pressure there too.

But if we frack all our bedrock and mess up our water supply, we're getting into things that cannot be fixed. Very very stupid. All so we don't burn coal -- which is just a temporary form of pollution.
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I haven't even touched on the Synthia/Corexit, stored nuclear waste or munitions dumps...

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable. As always please do the research for yourself, find what truth resonates best for you

 Quoting: siniXster


"They" don't like Marines...

[link to www.tftptf.com]

"Camp Lejeune is also known as a base riddled with contamination where soldiers who dedicated their lives to their country are now losing their lives to cancer and various other major health issues. These soldiers and their families were commissioned by the military to live on base where common practice allowed for the dumping of oil and industrial wastewater into storm drains and potentially radioactive material was buried. These common practices allowed toxic chemicals to seep into the water tables and to ultimately contaminate the water supply on base.

Since that time it is known that between 1952 and 1987 the men, women and children living at Camp Lejeune drank and bathed in water laced with such toxic chemicals as trichloroethylene (TCE), a chemical used as a degreaser, perchloroethylene (PCE), a dry cleaning solvent, and benzene, and industrial solvent.

During the 1970's, the EPA labeled Camp Lejeune a “major polluter”. Regulations were added by the military in 1984 outlining the proper technique required for disposal of hazardous waste such as organic compounds which could possibly infiltrate and contaminate drinking water. Reports show that as early as April 1980, leakage problems from buried fuel tanks could make water contamination a possibility. Regardless of prior warning signs, the military did not begin testing the drinking water until 1982. By this time, the most of people having lived on base had been touched in some way by potential carcinogens found in the water."

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


They did the same thing in my home town of Marion, Ohio. The students of River Valley School started dying of leukemia. EPA investigated (privately) found that the school was built atop of an old military toxic waste dump. EPA claimed it was "perfectly safe". Over the summer break the school was bulldozed, then the children were suddenly shipped off to other schools until they built a new high school, far away from the original site.
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


I subscribe to Thomas Gold's idea that these reservoirs might be refilled, and they're made of solid rock. I don't think this is a big risk, though I might be wrong if that's what caused the Deepwater Horizon leak.
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I totally agree on the fresh water debate.
Also look at who is investing in agricultural land, not only in the USA.
Water is like the cancer issue. They will never find a cure for cancer, just as they will never figure out how to de-salinate sea water.

Please OP educate your family. Time well spent.
 Quoting: Coldhand 7251284


...and if you do de-salinate seawater (you can do it for free with solar distillers), they will make it illegal.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I agree.
 Quoting: Coldhand


Water Filtration system companies always wish to dominate this idea of water purification with their proprietary or technical equipment (no good for TSHTF for that reason.) , because there is money in it. Don't put any faith in that stuff for those reasons.

They will always say, "sure, you can desalinate sea water so long as you pay a bunch of money to a big company".

I on the other hand have produced solar water distillers for over 30 years, not as a career, but mostly personal distillers that I donate when I move on. The distilled water is much more pure than any filtered water, and distillers can be built from basically some trash that might be found on a desert island if it really comes down to it.

With 100sq ft of clear plastic sheet and some tubing I could set up a system that would produce 5 gallons distilled from sea water per day, and with the same amount of glass and stainless steel tubing I could produce a system that would produce 5 gallons a day distilled that would be free from those concerns of phalates in plastics.
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Can you post or send your plans?
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


I subscribe to Thomas Gold's idea that these reservoirs might be refilled, and they're made of solid rock. I don't think this is a big risk, though I might be wrong if that's what caused the Deepwater Horizon leak.
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This pressure is creating a building fissure line, thousands of them. Check fissure retainment in any Geological Engineering manual, this problem has been slowly growing for weeks, yet everyone cries crap. We're heading closer to the subduction zone and these domes are in reality all connected, in 6 months theres the possibility of dozens of these popping up from texas to florida,wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry anger is of no use but people are so blind, or choose ignorance, I'm about done with this

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


Oh, but we pumped a bunch of water down there to fill up the voids!

Did you ever hear that line of shit? What a bunch of crap! They have been turning the very ground underneath us all into Swiss cheese and like nothing is going to come of that? Then they blow it up too with their fracking bullshit. They must really hate us to lie to us so poorly. At least they could have said they were pumping concrete down there, right? Not that we would have believed them. We are so screwed.
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


I subscribe to Thomas Gold's idea that these reservoirs might be refilled, and they're made of solid rock. I don't think this is a big risk, though I might be wrong if that's what caused the Deepwater Horizon leak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


This pressure is creating a building fissure line, thousands of them. Check fissure retainment in any Geological Engineering manual, this problem has been slowly growing for weeks, yet everyone cries crap. We're heading closer to the subduction zone and these domes are in reality all connected, in 6 months theres the possibility of dozens of these popping up from texas to florida,wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry anger is of no use but people are so blind, or choose ignorance, I'm about done with this
 Quoting: shadasonic


I was thinking that most of the problems are caused by fracking, which is new and awful, rather than pumping out conventional oil and gas from natural reservoirs, which we have been doing quite a while now. But it's also true that I live in NY state which our governor wants to frack, so I'm focused on that. I don't live near this crazy growing sinkhole in Louisiana.
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You might add the trillions of cubic feet of hollow areas where oil from reservoirs the size of oceans have been been pumped dry creating massive geological faults. And people wonder why sinkholes are happening?
 Quoting: Northman


I subscribe to Thomas Gold's idea that these reservoirs might be refilled, and they're made of solid rock. I don't think this is a big risk, though I might be wrong if that's what caused the Deepwater Horizon leak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


This pressure is creating a building fissure line, thousands of them. Check fissure retainment in any Geological Engineering manual, this problem has been slowly growing for weeks, yet everyone cries crap. We're heading closer to the subduction zone and these domes are in reality all connected, in 6 months theres the possibility of dozens of these popping up from texas to florida,wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry anger is of no use but people are so blind, or choose ignorance, I'm about done with this
 Quoting: shadasonic


I was thinking that most of the problems are caused by fracking, which is new and awful, rather than pumping out conventional oil and gas from natural reservoirs, which we have been doing quite a while now. But it's also true that I live in NY state which our governor wants to frack, so I'm focused on that. I don't live near this crazy growing sinkhole in Louisiana.
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Thanks for your level minded answer as I did not know this, much respect and hopefully we 'll find the answers we NEED! Peace my friend and keep an open mind as this is the beggining of bad things!
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initiate the revised music khristof> black hole in the sun, want you come...black hole in the sun of the salt dome has come...black hole in the sun,black hole in the sun, starting to be a pain..black hole in the sun,black hole in the sun has come...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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...and if you do de-salinate seawater (you can do it for free with solar distillers), they will make it illegal.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I agree.
 Quoting: Coldhand


Water Filtration system companies always wish to dominate this idea of water purification with their proprietary or technical equipment (no good for TSHTF for that reason.) , because there is money in it. Don't put any faith in that stuff for those reasons.

They will always say, "sure, you can desalinate sea water so long as you pay a bunch of money to a big company".

I on the other hand have produced solar water distillers for over 30 years, not as a career, but mostly personal distillers that I donate when I move on. The distilled water is much more pure than any filtered water, and distillers can be built from basically some trash that might be found on a desert island if it really comes down to it.

With 100sq ft of clear plastic sheet and some tubing I could set up a system that would produce 5 gallons distilled from sea water per day, and with the same amount of glass and stainless steel tubing I could produce a system that would produce 5 gallons a day distilled that would be free from those concerns of phalates in plastics.
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Can you post or send your plans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8693932


My latest distiller I built two years ago, it measures a half meter by one meter, and it produces a personal amount of water, about 3 liters per day naturally, and about three times that if I plug in a heating element at night. It is the most economic distiller I have ever made, using only about equal to $60usd in material. I have every reason to believe that the water it produces is just as pure as distillers that had copper or stainless steel bodies.

Here is a photo -
[link to i1065.photobucket.com]

The distiller I built 3 or 4 years ago was larger and produced about 10 liters of distilled water per day, plus water for hot showers for a family of 6. It had a body of copper. You can see it in this video -



I have built many other solar distillers, some of rather interesting especially efficient designs, but some of them decades ago and I have no photos, and other designs which I have not produced yet, but are patentable ideas, so I would not share those at this time either. But the basic idea is very simple and I am sure there is a good deal of information on how to design these on the web if one searches.

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tickets,get your north american union causeway cruise tickets here..shop along the way from the gulf of Mexico to Canada at our newly constructed ports and check out the expansion bridges too that helped put the economy back in the black..goods can now be moved from north or south and be distributed east and west at a considerable savings passed on to the consumers...tickets,get your causeway cruise tickets,tickets..
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I've been reading this thread and so far this is 1 of the best answers.They want to reconstruct america.And kill off the poor folks before time.
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So people want to know what else, it's just a sinkhole right? Chew on this Folks and see where it leads you...

Look at the years and hundreds of thousands of miles of fracked earth under our feet on the CONUS. Look at the poisoning of the aquifers by the un-monitored use of toxic chemicals. Look at all the souls all over the country dying from cancer and neural disorders from those chemicals w/ no recourse for medical help or even a way out. Look at the government making all the land grabs on water sheds all over the country. Look at ppl being jailed for collecting rainwater on their own property. Look at all the Presidential Executive Orders that have been signed in the middle of the night, on Sundays, on holidays, in secret, giving our government the right to take over everything in your everyday life and the right to put you in an internment camp w/out rhyme or reason. Look at what is happening in LA and multiply that by the entire Eastern CONUS, Michigan down to FLA and the entire east coast.

They've destroyed the Gulf, poisoned the entire water supply and destroyed the ground beneath our feet, they've turned into TOXIC SWISS CHEESE and it's all coming down.

THEY CONTROL THE SKIES, THE [GMO] FOOD, THE WATER AND THE POPULATION LEVELS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND WAITING FOR THE TOP TO DROP AND THEIR HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER!!! THOSE THAT DON'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE DESTRUCTION ARE GOING TO BE THE LUCKY ONES, OPEN YOUR EYES FOLKS!!!

Remember "look at the big picture"?

The WAR ON YOU is for WATER and WATER IS LIFE...your and your children's lives and guess what? There isn't going to be any unless you can purchase it from them. THIS IS COMING and time is up.

I haven't even touched on the Synthia/Corexit, stored nuclear waste or munitions dumps...

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable. As always please do the research for yourself, find what truth resonates best for you

 Quoting: siniXster


UNLESS you believe in God and the Bible and KNOW it's TRUTH, then you have NOTHING to worry about because everything will happen only the way God allows it to happen! God still owns this planet, and although there is a TERRIBLE time ahead, called the great tribulation, God's people will be protected through it. Their bread and water will be sure, the Bible says it's so and it's so! Only those who refuse to worship God in spirit and truth will be affected by the 7 last plagues that fall on mankind after the enforcement of the mark of the beast. We are close, very close to it all coming down, no doubt about it, but I go to bed every night in perfect peace knowing nothing will come near me without permission from God, and if it does the praise God it was meant to be. I don't live in fear, I live in peace.
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God dont make or allow everything to happen.People make & allow things to happen.
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Damn OP your so rite about this. We have pillaged this planet just so TPTB can keep their power, control, and money. Sadly I dont see any way we can turn things around. Our society on this planet has soooooo many screwed up issues. The way I see it at this point is either TPTB will keep their power over us and they will keep running our species into the ground, or we live in a Mad Max world that is pure anarchy that will lead to barberism and that will be your government, if you are one of the unlucky ones. Interesting times we live in huh.
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lol WHO ARE you? WE HAVE NOT RUINED ANYTHING IT'S THE DAMN illuminati.
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So people want to know what else, it's just a sinkhole right? Chew on this Folks and see where it leads you...

Look at the years and hundreds of thousands of miles of fracked earth under our feet on the CONUS. Look at the poisoning of the aquifers by the un-monitored use of toxic chemicals. Look at all the souls all over the country dying from cancer and neural disorders from those chemicals w/ no recourse for medical help or even a way out. Look at the government making all the land grabs on water sheds all over the country. Look at ppl being jailed for collecting rainwater on their own property. Look at all the Presidential Executive Orders that have been signed in the middle of the night, on Sundays, on holidays, in secret, giving our government the right to take over everything in your everyday life and the right to put you in an internment camp w/out rhyme or reason. Look at what is happening in LA and multiply that by the entire Eastern CONUS, Michigan down to FLA and the entire east coast.

They've destroyed the Gulf, poisoned the entire water supply and destroyed the ground beneath our feet, they've turned into TOXIC SWISS CHEESE and it's all coming down.

THEY CONTROL THE SKIES, THE [GMO] FOOD, THE WATER AND THE POPULATION LEVELS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND WAITING FOR THE TOP TO DROP AND THEIR HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER!!! THOSE THAT DON'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE DESTRUCTION ARE GOING TO BE THE LUCKY ONES, OPEN YOUR EYES FOLKS!!!

Remember "look at the big picture"?

The WAR ON YOU is for WATER and WATER IS LIFE...your and your children's lives and guess what? There isn't going to be any unless you can purchase it from them. THIS IS COMING and time is up.

I haven't even touched on the Synthia/Corexit, stored nuclear waste or munitions dumps...

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable. As always please do the research for yourself, find what truth resonates best for you

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" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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So is there any way we can blame this on Iran.. I'm sure if we worded it right we'd be able to slip a 'damn the muzzie basturds' in there at least.? scratching
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We inherited this and allowed it to continue, they did it right under our noses while we worked, raised our children, celebrated life and love and slept.

There's no one to blame anymore, it's way too late for that and we've all played our part.
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yep....and it makes a lot more sense why a certain family purchased over 100,000 acres of land & fresh water rights down in Paraguay. Which, btw, is a non-extradiction country.

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Hey ladyannie...weird synch, Praguay has come up in convo on my end quite a bit in the last 24hrs, hmmmm.
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Been thinking about that Paraguay land/aquifer purchase recently too.
Here's an interesting article, even considering the source:
[link to www.newsfocus.org]
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Some communications related info in case this thing blows up:

Thread: Global and local backup communication channels
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman

Very nice link NNS, thank you rockon
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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I totally agree on the fresh water debate.
Also look at who is investing in agricultural land, not only in the USA.
Water is like the cancer issue. They will never find a cure for cancer, just as they will never figure out how to de-salinate sea water.

Please OP educate your family. Time well spent.
 Quoting: Coldhand 7251284


Uh, there are cures for cancer and seawater is desalinated every day. What century do you live in?
 Quoting: John Donson 25477238


I agree there are cures for cancer, but at this time there are only treatments for cancer available. I also agree that the technology is available to turn ocean water into clean fresh water. Therefore explain to the residents of Africa why the can't have fresh water to drink.
 Quoting: Coldhand

Wasn't even going to touch that ignorant reply Coldhand, thank you for taking it on.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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we know you are liars. a virus is a liar too, imposters. you are a virus. a virus always self destructs, suicidal by nature. all parasites need a host. but you are just a passing virus. can you turn off those voices in your head? who touched you when you were a child? how many compartments do you have up there, how many voices, names? you will be consumed like the rest --- soon. very soon. no one cares for you here, in this dimension or the next. you are a traitor and a liar. you are just used ghosts that have no allies. a sickness. no one needs to curse you, you have already done that. pay up.
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So people want to know what else, it's just a sinkhole right? Chew on this Folks and see where it leads you...

Look at the years and hundreds of thousands of miles of fracked earth under our feet on the CONUS. Look at the poisoning of the aquifers by the un-monitored use of toxic chemicals. Look at all the souls all over the country dying from cancer and neural disorders from those chemicals w/ no recourse for medical help or even a way out. Look at the government making all the land grabs on water sheds all over the country. Look at ppl being jailed for collecting rainwater on their own property. Look at all the Presidential Executive Orders that have been signed in the middle of the night, on Sundays, on holidays, in secret, giving our government the right to take over everything in your everyday life and the right to put you in an internment camp w/out rhyme or reason. Look at what is happening in LA and multiply that by the entire Eastern CONUS, Michigan down to FLA and the entire east coast.

They've destroyed the Gulf, poisoned the entire water supply and destroyed the ground beneath our feet, they've turned into TOXIC SWISS CHEESE and it's all coming down.

THEY CONTROL THE SKIES, THE [GMO] FOOD, THE WATER AND THE POPULATION LEVELS AND EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE AND WAITING FOR THE TOP TO DROP AND THEIR HOSTILE CORPORATE TAKEOVER!!! THOSE THAT DON'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE DESTRUCTION ARE GOING TO BE THE LUCKY ONES, OPEN YOUR EYES FOLKS!!!

Remember "look at the big picture"?

The WAR ON YOU is for WATER and WATER IS LIFE...your and your children's lives and guess what? There isn't going to be any unless you can purchase it from them. THIS IS COMING and time is up.

I haven't even touched on the Synthia/Corexit, stored nuclear waste or munitions dumps...

Sorry for my bluntness but I can no longer sugarcoat this, call it fearmongering or whatever you'd like but the proof is undeniable. As always please do the research for yourself, find what truth resonates best for you

 Quoting: siniXster


So.... what do we do? I'm familiar with most of it, and it totally sucks. Other than being informed, and prepared, "somewhat".. what else can one do, to change things.. is it possible?
 Quoting: Artlicious

No, unfortunately nothing can be done, we have to wake our families and friends to the coming chaos as best we can, move them to safe zones and ride out the storm...that's providing they listen, most do not, are unwilling or just to afraid to even grasp the concept that life as we know it in America is over.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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I'm well aware of that.

Or did I miss your point?
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


Hey NNS, just enjoy your posts and appreciate your viewpoint it strikes that truthfull tone. So I posted these so some people get a different take on the same problem! I wanted your voice to be heard, didn't know you were on this thread!!LOL

This was directed at someone who believes the sinkhole problem is a joke!
 Quoting: shadasonic

Thank you for the post shada, it fit well...nice to see ya my friend. rockon
 Quoting: siniXster


Another good and heartfelt thread, someones got to open some minds and you do well in that category. Peace and keep dishing it out!
 Quoting: shadasonic

A most well received compliment fine sir, a hat tip and a sincere thank you. I will always do what I can to protect the souls that reside here. rockon
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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One would have to agree Hammertime however when it's done at the expense of the souls that occupy it, it becomes Genocide.
 Quoting: siniXster


Unfortunately that is what it may take. There is too much Evil mixed with the Good in people that I do not believe can be fixed. The trust is lost. We need to go back to the stone age and try again because this aint working.. The current Humane Race is a disgrace to society. Just look around you and beyond.
 Quoting: Hammertime

I can't argue w/ you, your point is as solid as they come however I still love them and that will never change so I have to forgive and allow them their just desserts.

Any innocent life lost by the hand of another will also always be the most horrific for me, the plight of empath.
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I agree with you both . . . Mother Earth needs a chance to renew and restore . . . there is little good left in humans, if there was ever much to begin with . . . I am a highly empathetic being and my empathy is for the sweet creatures of this earth, nature, and the planet/universe.
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Hugging
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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tickets,get your north american union causeway cruise tickets here..shop along the way from the gulf of Mexico to Canada at our newly constructed ports and check out the expansion bridges too that helped put the economy back in the black..goods can now be moved from north or south and be distributed east and west at a considerable savings passed on to the consumers...tickets,get your causeway cruise tickets,tickets..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

Nice, you always have such a phenomenal way w/ words my friend. rockon
 Quoting: siniXster
thanks, twas nothinghf. it appears it was done on purpose to open up the Mississippi river,some Geo engineering you might say..it would benefit future generations,one generation for many...it would just suck for the current one when and if the collapse occurred...but hey FDR allowed pearl harbor to be bombed to drag us into ww2 and jump start the economy...that Freemason knew the zeros were headed to the island...Idol1
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

I share your sentiment on the purposeful act however bringing that to the masses for them to swallow and learn is much harder than teaching by way natural occurrence or accidental disaster first. Most still believe 9/11 was an act of outside terrorism, 11yrs later and they're still apathetic. Kinda picking my battles here ya know...
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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We're all expendable, especially the soldiers. I AM a vet and can speak for that myself.
 Quoting: siniXster


If I may get Kelly AFB in here too, just as a footnote...
[link to www.healthandenvironment.org]

[link to madmax.lmtonline.com]

"SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Amid suspicions of illnesses, dwindling property values and a pending lawsuit stemming from a contaminated aquifer running under Kelly Air Force Base and some 20,000 adjacent homes and businesses, the Air Force has agreed to clean the underwater source to drinking water standards.

Air Force officials plan to submit a cleanup plan to state regulators detailing up to five cleanup alternatives and recommending one, said Adam Antoine, director of environmental programs at Kelly for the Air Force Base Conversion Agency.

Kelly officials also have scheduled a Nov. 1 meeting to get public comment on the cleanup options, which include pump-and-treat wells throughout the contaminated area and monitored natural attenuation. Using natural attenuation, the Air Force would continue to capture pollutants on base, but let the polluted groundwater already off base degrade naturally over 30 years.

Mayor Howard Peak said the contamination is an issue affecting the entire city.

"First of all, we have the health and safety of many citizens, current and future, in the balance," Peak is quoted as saying in Sunday editions of the San Antonio Express-News. "Then we have the success of our redevelopment efforts at Kelly that could be influenced as well."

Residents have long been pointing to the air base as the source of atypically high rates of illnesses, including birth defects, low birth-weight babies, leukemia and liver, lung and kidney cancer, the newspaper said.

Recently, the Air Force began an investigation into whether 16 cases of Lou Gehrig's disease, including five deaths, are linked to environmental contaminants at Kelly"

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia

Wow, ty for the info zeno, I knew TX IS being decimated by fracking but I did not know that it had already made it's way to San Antonio. One of my favorite cities here btw, lived there for 5yrs back in the early 90's, absolutely love San Antonio.

My hear, prayers and sword go out to all there.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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I totally agree on the fresh water debate.
Also look at who is investing in agricultural land, not only in the USA.
Water is like the cancer issue. They will never find a cure for cancer, just as they will never figure out how to de-salinate sea water.

Please OP educate your family. Time well spent.
 Quoting: Coldhand 7251284

I'm here and in reference to your comment, so is China and Russia.

The Chinese government bought a 200 acre plot of land 60mi south of me, they're building homes and business that will house and employ ONLY Chinese. Russia is buying land all over as well.
 Quoting: siniXster


They have been selling our country right from under us in the dark of the night. They will pay for it in the long run though. First we are not safe...next, they are not safe. They will get what is due to them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8693932

I have total faith in our civilian population and the state militias where this is concerned AC, any foreign intervention here be it UN, Chinese, Russian or Mexican will be met with a force and faith they will never be able to anticipate nor stand against.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Andre Gide

"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin

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