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Nibiru - Possible Proof At Neumayer Station...And a Recent Visit From The M.I.B

 
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Well - considering he's made this moronic error, I'm betting he'll deny that his Stellarium is set to use his local time.
It is Teh Way of teh kOOk.

For those interested, use this applet:
[link to aa.usno.navy.mil]
Enter NeumayerIII location as:
Longitude: 08º 16´ W
Latitude: 70º 41´S
Time Zone: 0 hours

Make sure bullets/data are marked for:
Object: Sun
Year: 2012
Month: October
Day: 24
Tab Interval: 10 minutes

Then click Compute Table.

Notice Sun position at the time:
15:50UT - Alt = 23.0º, Azimuth = 301.7º

The US Navy says the sun was up by 23º at 15:50UT.
He obviously has the time offset messed up with Stellarium.
He'll deny it, but I'm sure the USNO didn't change their web-applet just to agree with me and make him wrong and hide NibbleU.
If so, they didn't call me to find out what story I was using to debunk an 8 year-old on Rubetube.
<snicker>

Maybe he'll surprise me and admit his error...


R.
 Quoting: Reality420



He strikes me as the type of guy willing to admit his mistakes and learn from his errors. He might surprise you.
 Quoting: ET*Dude



So, did "Mr. Honesty" graciously accept that he hadn't found a Nibble-U caused "anomaly" but had found that he didn't know how to use his software?
Did he thank you for answering his questions and helkping him to learn to use his software properly?

Or did he ignore the bleeding obvious and delete your comments and block you from his channel?
<snicker>

I think I can guess.

If you could still communicate with the moron you could ask him to set his Stellarium for New York City and then tell you when sunset is on 26 October according to his viewing the sun in his Stellarium.
I think you'll find he will say ~16:00 (4:00pm) when in fact it is really ~18:00 (6:00pm), thereby showing his time offset is still set to his local MDT.

Don't feel bad, PXers are some of the most dishonest and pig-ignorant creatures you'll encounter on the net.

Have fun.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 23400173



No. He didn't reply back to any of my comments (In the part 2 video in question).

And he also didn't delete my comments and block me from his channel.

He has since made a new video (as pointed out by the GLP member "halfdayclosing") in response to his second however.

I have only just found out, it goes for over 20 mins, so I will try and get around to viewing it soon.

At the start of the video he states that UTC times are confirmed and shown.

Someone obviously hit a nerve in the comments section on his previous video judging by the title comment he posted for his latest video.


Published on Oct 25, 2012 by tree0fmight

IF YOU KEEP TROLLING MY PAGE AND SPAMMING IT I'LL JUST KEEP THE COMMENTS CLOSED SO REALLY YOU RUIN IT FOR THE LEGIT PEOPLE HERE. IF YOU WANT TO TROLL IT THAT BAD GO MAKE A VIDEO RESPONSE, NOT GOING TO ARGUE BACK AND FORTH WHEN YOUR JUST POSTING THE SAME COMMENT OVER AND OVER !! IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE FIRST 2 PARTS DON'T WATCH THIS OR YOUR GOING TO BE COMPLETELY LOST AND CLUELESS AS TO WHAT IS TRYING TO BE SAID HERE


Part 3



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Also, comments for his latest video are pending approval

Last Edited by ET*Dude on 10/25/2012 08:14 PM
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YouTube uploader claims possible proof of Nibiru/Planet X

Published on Oct 24, 2012 by tree0fmight

This is a follow up to my previous video with Stellarium included showing that although the faint glow may be from our sun, the hard direct light source is coming from an independent source higher in the sky as the sun could not light up the sky as shown at the times shown from Neumayer As our sun is rising another bright star is setting giving the illusion that our sun is giving the glow.



[link to www.youtube.com]


Video Comments:


Good follow up to my concern about a sun setting in the west might cause the glow. You disproved that. Your observation on the shadow is concerns me. First it should not be there. Second its is very defined as if the source is large and bright. Finally it is moving in the wrong direction. OK so what are we to conclude? This is pretty daming to NASA, govt, trolls.

MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



I thank you for that statement, I always check time and dates with stellarium for Neumayer and when I and using Helioviewer, It slipped my mind to include stellarium in the first video as I was just excited at what I was finding. There has to be a star very close to illuminate the sky bright blue as they show, that shadow should have been stationary even though our suns dim orange glare was moving, it was not bright enough to show that shadow from under the horizon.

tree0fmight in reply to MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



You are correct I checked your data and the sun is below the horizon in the sequence there could not be a bright blue sky as shown unless there is another light source from higher in the sky. The sky should be a grimy orange color at 14:50 utc through the sequence you show. good research !!!!

DarkSkyWatcher74 2 hours ago



Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ET*Dude



I haven't read this entire thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this. His copy of Stellarium is set to his local time instead of UTC time. He needs to set it to use UTC time which he can do under Configuration --> Plugins --> Time Zone. After changing the settings and saving he must restart Stellarium.

With my copy of Stellarim set to the location of the Neumayer Station (S 70° 40, W 8° 16'), and using UTC time, it shows the Sun in North West (312 degrees) at 15:10 UTC at an altitude of 25 degrees, NOT below the horizon like the guy in the video says. Again, his copy of Stellarium is setup wrong.

Sorry, but the light in the video IS coming from the Sun.
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YouTube uploader claims possible proof of Nibiru/Planet X

Published on Oct 24, 2012 by tree0fmight

This is a follow up to my previous video with Stellarium included showing that although the faint glow may be from our sun, the hard direct light source is coming from an independent source higher in the sky as the sun could not light up the sky as shown at the times shown from Neumayer As our sun is rising another bright star is setting giving the illusion that our sun is giving the glow.



[link to www.youtube.com]


Video Comments:


Good follow up to my concern about a sun setting in the west might cause the glow. You disproved that. Your observation on the shadow is concerns me. First it should not be there. Second its is very defined as if the source is large and bright. Finally it is moving in the wrong direction. OK so what are we to conclude? This is pretty daming to NASA, govt, trolls.

MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



I thank you for that statement, I always check time and dates with stellarium for Neumayer and when I and using Helioviewer, It slipped my mind to include stellarium in the first video as I was just excited at what I was finding. There has to be a star very close to illuminate the sky bright blue as they show, that shadow should have been stationary even though our suns dim orange glare was moving, it was not bright enough to show that shadow from under the horizon.

tree0fmight in reply to MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



You are correct I checked your data and the sun is below the horizon in the sequence there could not be a bright blue sky as shown unless there is another light source from higher in the sky. The sky should be a grimy orange color at 14:50 utc through the sequence you show. good research !!!!

DarkSkyWatcher74 2 hours ago



Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ET*Dude



I haven't read this entire thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this. His copy of Stellarium is set to his local time instead of UTC time. He needs to set it to use UTC time which he can do under Configuration --> Plugins --> Time Zone. After changing the settings and saving he must restart Stellarium.

With my copy of Stellarim set to the location of the Neumayer Station (S 70° 40, W 8° 16'), and using UTC time, it shows the Sun in North West (312 degrees) at 15:10 UTC at an altitude of 25 degrees, NOT below the horizon like the guy in the video says. Again, his copy of Stellarium is setup wrong.

Sorry, but the light in the video IS coming from the Sun.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Watch the 3rd vid.... he sets it straight.
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YouTube uploader claims possible proof of Nibiru/Planet X

Published on Oct 24, 2012 by tree0fmight

This is a follow up to my previous video with Stellarium included showing that although the faint glow may be from our sun, the hard direct light source is coming from an independent source higher in the sky as the sun could not light up the sky as shown at the times shown from Neumayer As our sun is rising another bright star is setting giving the illusion that our sun is giving the glow.



[link to www.youtube.com]


Video Comments:


Good follow up to my concern about a sun setting in the west might cause the glow. You disproved that. Your observation on the shadow is concerns me. First it should not be there. Second its is very defined as if the source is large and bright. Finally it is moving in the wrong direction. OK so what are we to conclude? This is pretty daming to NASA, govt, trolls.

MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



I thank you for that statement, I always check time and dates with stellarium for Neumayer and when I and using Helioviewer, It slipped my mind to include stellarium in the first video as I was just excited at what I was finding. There has to be a star very close to illuminate the sky bright blue as they show, that shadow should have been stationary even though our suns dim orange glare was moving, it was not bright enough to show that shadow from under the horizon.

tree0fmight in reply to MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



You are correct I checked your data and the sun is below the horizon in the sequence there could not be a bright blue sky as shown unless there is another light source from higher in the sky. The sky should be a grimy orange color at 14:50 utc through the sequence you show. good research !!!!

DarkSkyWatcher74 2 hours ago



Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ET*Dude



I haven't read this entire thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this. His copy of Stellarium is set to his local time instead of UTC time. He needs to set it to use UTC time which he can do under Configuration --> Plugins --> Time Zone. After changing the settings and saving he must restart Stellarium.

With my copy of Stellarim set to the location of the Neumayer Station (S 70° 40, W 8° 16'), and using UTC time, it shows the Sun in North West (312 degrees) at 15:10 UTC at an altitude of 25 degrees, NOT below the horizon like the guy in the video says. Again, his copy of Stellarium is setup wrong.

Sorry, but the light in the video IS coming from the Sun.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr



At the beginning of his latest video (I haven't had a chance to view it yet) he states that UTC times are confirmed and shown.

I dont know whether this is true or not because I haven't had the time to view it yet.

Hopefully someone else who has the time to view it now can confirm whether the times are now correct.

Here is the video (Part 3)


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Colour me surprised.

Ho-hum. Another PX/Nibble-U/SecondSun/HMO/BinarySun high-school dropout retard who fancies himself smarter than PhDs at various organizations.
Arrogant Ignorance - What else is new?

Let's take another look at a different data source:

Neumayer Station Date/Time - Time Zone:
[link to dateandtime.info]
NeumayerIII is currently on CEST – Central European Summer Time which is no surprise as that is the timezone of Germany.
(be careful, it will change to standard time on 28 Oct)

The current time offset is: UTC + 2:00hrs = CEST
and, therefore:
Subtract 2 hours from local CEST to get UT:
CEST - 2:00hrs = UTC

Now click the link for "See the monthly sunrise and sunset table for Neumayer Station" which will give the Neumayer local time of sunrise and sunset:
[link to dateandtime.info]
Scan down to sunset time for 24 Oct. which is the date in question for the video in the OP:
"Wednesday, October 24 11:01 PM"
The sun set at 23:01 local CEST on 24 Oct.
What is this in UT, which is the timezone the images are catalogued as?
Subtract 2 hours from local CEST to get UT:
23:01CEST - 2 = 21:01UT
Therefore, dateandtime.info is stating that sunset was at 21:01UT, which matches the USNO link in a post above, but doesn't match what the moronic video author has decided in his genius.
He has the sun below the horizon at 15:50UT because he ignorantly refuses to believe that he is in error and his Stellarium is showing his local time, not UT.

Like I said -- Rubetubes made by 8 year-olds. Retarded 8 year-olds.
... But they're geniuses! Just ask them.


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 Quoting: ET*Dude


Colour me surprised.

Ho-hum. Another PX/Nibble-U/SecondSun/HMO/BinarySun high-school dropout retard who fancies himself smarter than PhDs at various organizations.
Arrogant Ignorance - What else is new?

Let's take another look at a different data source:

Neumayer Station Date/Time - Time Zone:
[link to dateandtime.info]
NeumayerIII is currently on CEST – Central European Summer Time which is no surprise as that is the timezone of Germany.
(be careful, it will change to standard time on 28 Oct)

The current time offset is: UTC + 2:00hrs = CEST
and, therefore:
Subtract 2 hours from local CEST to get UT:
CEST - 2:00hrs = UTC

Now click the link for "See the monthly sunrise and sunset table for Neumayer Station" which will give the Neumayer local time of sunrise and sunset:
[link to dateandtime.info]
Scan down to sunset time for 24 Oct. which is the date in question for the video in the OP:
"Wednesday, October 24 11:01 PM"
The sun set at 23:01 local CEST on 24 Oct.
What is this in UT, which is the timezone the images are catalogued as?
Subtract 2 hours from local CEST to get UT:
23:01CEST - 2 = 21:01UT
Therefore, dateandtime.info is stating that sunset was at 21:01UT, which matches the USNO link in a post above, but doesn't match what the moronic video author has decided in his genius.
He has the sun below the horizon at 15:50UT because he ignorantly refuses to believe that he is in error and his Stellarium is showing his local time, not UT.

Like I said -- Rubetubes made by 8 year-olds. Retarded 8 year-olds.
... But they're geniuses! Just ask them.


R.
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 Quoting: Reality420 23400173



Is this in reply to his 3rd video or his second?

Apparently the UTC times are confirmed and shown in his new vid.
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At the beginning of his latest video (I haven't had a chance to view it yet) he states that UTC times are confirmed and shown.

I don't know whether this is true or not because I haven't had the time to view it yet.

Hopefully someone else who has the time to view it now can confirm whether the times are now correct.

Here is the video (Part 3)


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: ET*Dude


@02:30 he sets his Stellarium to 20:00 on 24 Oct. after assuring us it's set to UT, but what he's showing is actually 02:00 on 25 Oct. -- 6 hours later than he thinks.
Look at where the sun is in his vid at 20:00 on 24 Oct. It is east of south which means it has an Azimuth of <180.
Go to the USNO site as shown here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and get the info as shown for 24 Oct.
Note that at 20:00UT on 24 Oct the USNO says the sun is 3.5º above the horizon and with an Azimuth of 242º, which is 60º to the right of south.
Look at his Stellarium image @ 02:30 -- see the red S indicating south?
See the sun below the horizon even though every reputable science site says it is still above the horizon?
See the sun to the left (east) of south as opposed to far to the right (west) of south as USNO says it is?

So -
We have dateandtime.info saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun is in the WSW at ~242º Azimuth at 20:00UT but our hero shows it in the SSE at about 160º Azimuth.

Conclusion?

Arrogant Ignoramus has his Stellarium time offset set for his local Arizona time = MDT.
Everything makes sense if that is the case and there are no 'anomalies' in the Neumayer images... it is merely operator error. Again.


R.
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Note that both USNO and dateandtime.info say that at 20:00UT on 24 Oct the sun is still above the horizon and not set.

Our hero shows it set.

That's all you need to know to determine he doesn't know what he's doing.

I'm finished discussing rudimentary time offset errors made by a NibbleU cretin.
Seen it all before, many times.


R.
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YouTube uploader claims possible proof of Nibiru/Planet X

Published on Oct 24, 2012 by tree0fmight

This is a follow up to my previous video with Stellarium included showing that although the faint glow may be from our sun, the hard direct light source is coming from an independent source higher in the sky as the sun could not light up the sky as shown at the times shown from Neumayer As our sun is rising another bright star is setting giving the illusion that our sun is giving the glow.



[link to www.youtube.com]


Video Comments:


Good follow up to my concern about a sun setting in the west might cause the glow. You disproved that. Your observation on the shadow is concerns me. First it should not be there. Second its is very defined as if the source is large and bright. Finally it is moving in the wrong direction. OK so what are we to conclude? This is pretty daming to NASA, govt, trolls.

MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



I thank you for that statement, I always check time and dates with stellarium for Neumayer and when I and using Helioviewer, It slipped my mind to include stellarium in the first video as I was just excited at what I was finding. There has to be a star very close to illuminate the sky bright blue as they show, that shadow should have been stationary even though our suns dim orange glare was moving, it was not bright enough to show that shadow from under the horizon.

tree0fmight in reply to MrMexBiker 1 hour ago



You are correct I checked your data and the sun is below the horizon in the sequence there could not be a bright blue sky as shown unless there is another light source from higher in the sky. The sky should be a grimy orange color at 14:50 utc through the sequence you show. good research !!!!

DarkSkyWatcher74 2 hours ago



Any thoughts?
 Quoting: ET*Dude



I haven't read this entire thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this. His copy of Stellarium is set to his local time instead of UTC time. He needs to set it to use UTC time which he can do under Configuration --> Plugins --> Time Zone. After changing the settings and saving he must restart Stellarium.

With my copy of Stellarim set to the location of the Neumayer Station (S 70° 40, W 8° 16'), and using UTC time, it shows the Sun in North West (312 degrees) at 15:10 UTC at an altitude of 25 degrees, NOT below the horizon like the guy in the video says. Again, his copy of Stellarium is setup wrong.

Sorry, but the light in the video IS coming from the Sun.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Watch the 3rd vid.... he sets it straight.
 Quoting: halfdayclosing



Ok, I just watched a few minutes of his latest video. He claims he IS using UTC time. At 20:00 UTC he claims the Sun below the Horzion.

I don't know what he is doing wrong, but my copy of Stellarium shows the Sun is still above the Horizon at 20:00 UTC. In fact, it doesn't show the Sun setting until around 21:00.

You can verify for yourself. Download Stellarim (free). Change to UTC time, save and restart. You MUST restart Stellarium for the UTC time change to take effect.

Restart Stellarium, set the location to Neumayer Station, which is located at a Latitude of S 70° 40', and a Longitude of W 8° 16'.

Maybe he didn't restart. hmm

Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 10/25/2012 09:30 PM
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At the beginning of his latest video (I haven't had a chance to view it yet) he states that UTC times are confirmed and shown.

I don't know whether this is true or not because I haven't had the time to view it yet.

Hopefully someone else who has the time to view it now can confirm whether the times are now correct.

Here is the video (Part 3)


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: ET*Dude


@02:30 he sets his Stellarium to 20:00 on 24 Oct. after assuring us it's set to UT, but what he's showing is actually 02:00 on 25 Oct. -- 6 hours later than he thinks.
Look at where the sun is in his vid at 20:00 on 24 Oct. It is east of south which means it has an Azimuth of <180.
Go to the USNO site as shown here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and get the info as shown for 24 Oct.
Note that at 20:00UT on 24 Oct the USNO says the sun is 3.5º above the horizon and with an Azimuth of 242º, which is 60º to the right of south.
Look at his Stellarium image @ 02:30 -- see the red S indicating south?
See the sun below the horizon even though every reputable science site says it is still above the horizon?
See the sun to the left (east) of south as opposed to far to the right (west) of south as USNO says it is?

So -
We have dateandtime.info saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun is in the WSW at ~242º Azimuth at 20:00UT but our hero shows it in the SSE at about 160º Azimuth.

Conclusion?

Arrogant Ignoramus has his Stellarium time offset set for his local Arizona time = MDT.
Everything makes sense if that is the case and there are no 'anomalies' in the Neumayer images... it is merely operator error. Again.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 23400173



Exactly!

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At the beginning of his latest video (I haven't had a chance to view it yet) he states that UTC times are confirmed and shown.

I don't know whether this is true or not because I haven't had the time to view it yet.

Hopefully someone else who has the time to view it now can confirm whether the times are now correct.

Here is the video (Part 3)


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: ET*Dude


@02:30 he sets his Stellarium to 20:00 on 24 Oct. after assuring us it's set to UT, but what he's showing is actually 02:00 on 25 Oct. -- 6 hours later than he thinks.
Look at where the sun is in his vid at 20:00 on 24 Oct. It is east of south which means it has an Azimuth of <180.
Go to the USNO site as shown here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
and get the info as shown for 24 Oct.
Note that at 20:00UT on 24 Oct the USNO says the sun is 3.5º above the horizon and with an Azimuth of 242º, which is 60º to the right of south.
Look at his Stellarium image @ 02:30 -- see the red S indicating south?
See the sun below the horizon even though every reputable science site says it is still above the horizon?
See the sun to the left (east) of south as opposed to far to the right (west) of south as USNO says it is?

So -
We have dateandtime.info saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun doesn't set until ~21:00UT
We have USNO saying the sun is in the WSW at ~242º Azimuth at 20:00UT but our hero shows it in the SSE at about 160º Azimuth.

Conclusion?

Arrogant Ignoramus has his Stellarium time offset set for his local Arizona time = MDT.
Everything makes sense if that is the case and there are no 'anomalies' in the Neumayer images... it is merely operator error. Again.


R.
 Quoting: Reality420 23400173



I left two comments on his video page stating - "I have noticed a comment from someone on another website in regards to your video?"

"He has offered an apparent explanation as to where he believes you went wrong in regards to the time settings on Stellarium".


And - "Do I have permission to post his explanation?"


Hopefully he approves my comments and allows me to post your explanation.
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I left two comments on his video page stating - "I have noticed a comment from someone on another website in regards to your video?"

"He has offered an apparent explanation as to where he believes you went wrong in regards to the time settings on Stellarium".


And - "Do I have permission to post his explanation?"


Hopefully he approves my comments and allows me to post your explanation.
 Quoting: ET*Dude


You may want to give him Boxer's explanation on how to correctly set his Stellarium for UT.

I've got an old version installed that doesn't have the capability for setting time offsets so I just do it in my head. It's not like it's very hard... except for some people who seem to think they're smarter than PhDs even though they can't run their software properly.

Have fun.


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His reply to a comment on the 3rd video....

"thank you very much, I know I have haters and trolls because of my conspiracy videos and I don't censor comments on my videos because tat goes against what I stand for which is freedom of expression but this guy hit me with like 6 comments in a row and were just copies of the first so I just deleted and blocked him. I know Im close to something when they can't attack the facts and start attacking&#65279; little things like a title or a misspelled word lol that's hen you know your on top of the truth !"

Yea he doesnt censor comments..... Well not the ones he agrees with anyways...
Also, you confronted him on facts and he wont reply to them... The guy is a fucking moran. Typical nibirutard.

Why is it when someone proves these guys wrong they yell shill and say oh I must be on to something. look at all these paid shills attacking the truth...
Ummm no, someone is not as stupid as you and called you on it, thats all.

And YES he is using stellarium WRONG.

Also, if its visable from the south pole, it would be visable to TONS of people in the southern hemisphere.

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I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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I left two comments on his video page stating - "I have noticed a comment from someone on another website in regards to your video?"

"He has offered an apparent explanation as to where he believes you went wrong in regards to the time settings on Stellarium".


And - "Do I have permission to post his explanation?"


Hopefully he approves my comments and allows me to post your explanation.
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You may want to give him Boxer's explanation on how to correctly set his Stellarium for UT.

I've got an old version installed that doesn't have the capability for setting time offsets so I just do it in my head. It's not like it's very hard... except for some people who seem to think they're smarter than PhDs even though they can't run their software properly.

Have fun.


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Ok, so i have posted your explanation and Boxer's explanation for correctly setting his Stellarium for UT.

He has already posted part 1 of your explanation (I had to do it in a few parts because you can only post so many characters) so maybe he is willing to find where he went wrong.

I think he may need some time to comprehend all the info I just fired at him, after all it's a fair bit to take in.

Hopefully he approves all the posts and replies back.
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Ok, I just watched a few minutes of his latest video. He claims he IS using UTC time. At 20:00 UTC he claims the Sun below the Horzion.

I don't know what he is doing wrong, but my copy of Stellarium shows the Sun is still above the Horizon at 20:00 UTC. In fact, it doesn't show the Sun setting until around 21:00.

You can verify for yourself. Download Stellarim (free). Change to UTC time, save and restart. You MUST restart Stellarium for the UTC time change to take effect.

Restart Stellarium, set the location to Neumayer Station, which is located at a Latitude of S 70° 40', and a Longitude of W 8° 16'.

Maybe he didn't restart. hmm
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Here's some pics from my copy of Stellarium showing the Sun is still above the horizon at 20:00 UTC (Az/Alt: +241°56'34"/+3°30'25"), not below like the guy in the video says. I've turned off the ground so you can see exactly where the horizon is.

UTC time:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]
Location:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]
Sun above the horizon at 20:00:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]
Sun doesn't set until 21:00:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
 Quoting: jhamil76


Working ok for me
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Working ok for me

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cloud cam and time lapse videos from earlier days?
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Working ok for me

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cloud cam and time lapse videos from earlier days?
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Just checked the cloud cam, working for me.

Just looked at a time lapse video from the other day too...

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Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Working ok for me

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cloud cam and time lapse videos from earlier days?
 Quoting: jhamil76


Just checked the cloud cam, working for me.

Just looked at a time lapse video from the other day too...
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Works for me too. I just watched the latest video. When did they start labeling constellations and stars?
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Well well, look at that. He disabled comments for the video....
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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Working ok for me

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cloud cam and time lapse videos from earlier days?
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Just checked the cloud cam, working for me.

Just looked at a time lapse video from the other day too...
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Works for me too. I just watched the latest video. When did they start labeling constellations and stars?
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thanks it does work they change the format for videos. the grid new. pretty cool!
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Ok, so now he hasn't replied to any of my earlier comments that I posted containing explanations and info from Reality420 and Boxer as to where it seems he went wrong with his time settings on Stellarium.

Infact, the first comment that I posted (part one of Reality420's explanation) which was previously approved by him and posted on his video page, has now been removed.

And also, his opening comment for his video which previously read -

IF YOU KEEP TROLLING MY PAGE AND SPAMMING IT I'LL JUST KEEP THE COMMENTS CLOSED SO REALLY YOU RUIN IT FOR THE LEGIT PEOPLE HERE. IF YOU WANT TO TROLL IT THAT BAD GO MAKE A VIDEO RESPONSE, NOT GOING TO ARGUE BACK AND FORTH WHEN YOUR JUST POSTING THE SAME COMMENT OVER AND OVER !! IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE FIRST 2 PARTS DON'T WATCH THIS OR YOUR GOING TO BE COMPLETELY LOST AND CLUELESS AS TO WHAT IS TRYING TO BE SAID HERE

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Published on Oct 25, 2012 by tree0fmight

My opening demo for the first 4 minutes is just a demo the actual video after is set to UTC offset time from GMT is + 12 hours




Help me out experts I am currently mind fucked!

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And here is his first installment (That has yet to be discussed in this thread) in the 3 part trilogy of "Did I just find PROOF of Nibiru Planet X".




[link to www.youtube.com]



Here is his title comment -




Published on Oct 24, 2012 by tree0fmight


While searching the Neumayer Live Camera in Antarctica, I noticed a secondary light source on the opposite side of the station. When the sun rises in Antarctica it is different then when we see it here in the states because Antarctica is on the bottom of the world. The sun does not rise up and over, it rises and travels left if you can picture that in your head, so if you have (WWT) World Wide Telescope or Google Sky you can go to that view and rotate the eart around the sun and get a better picture of what I am saying. The South Pole is where we built a major Telescope to track Nibiru as it is on a Southern approach, no where else in the world will you see Nibiru any pictures or videos coming from anywhere else are photo shop that 100% fact. So here in Antarctica we have 2 light sources on opposite sides of the building . This can only be from a second sun Binary star in our system known as Nibiru or Planet X



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Now, I have noticed a few of my comments have been removed (Comments that caught him out, in reference to the times he was stating)

He even credits me (dbf1975) in the start of his second installment for pointing that out to him.

So why delete my comments? Obviously to make his video seem more credible.

Any respect I had for this guy (which has been diminishing as time passes) has now been obliterated.

Why can't he just admit to his mistakes and be appreciative of extremely constructive criticism?


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I for one still believe that the ever elusive Nibiru or Planet X, or both are out there somewhere in our Solar System, or on the fringe of our Solar System (or not too far beyond).

But guys like this are only ever going to make the topic even more laughable.alien7
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And just a quick question.

The live cam view from the roof of Neumayer III to the south is currently out of service - [link to www.awi.de]


Has this happened before?

If so, is it out of service regularly, or for long periods of time?
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
 Quoting: jhamil76


Working ok for me
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Do you mind sharing the link for the cfht South Cam?

It would be greatly appreciated.
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Working ok for me
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Do you mind sharing the link for the cfht South Cam?

It would be greatly appreciated.
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I think I just found it - [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]

They could atleast make it live, instead of a still image refreshed every 60 seconds.
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i went to the cfht website which i watch occasionaly. today it seems that all videos and images are not working. is this just that the site is down or my end is not working? or perhaps it's not working for a reason? hmmm.
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wanted to see the south cam to compare with your findings. keep up the great work on finding the truth.
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Working ok for me
 Quoting: Marax


Do you mind sharing the link for the cfht South Cam?

It would be greatly appreciated.
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cfht south cam? scratching

CFHT cloud cam is what he was talking about in his first post. It is located in Hawaii. Here's the link to the movies. [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]

The south facing Neumayer Station cam is down. [link to www.awi.de]
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And just a quick question.

The live cam view from the roof of Neumayer III to the south is currently out of service - [link to www.awi.de]


Has this happened before?

If so, is it out of service regularly, or for long periods of time?
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Oh, and while I am at it, does any one know of any other publicly available webcams in Antarctica facing the south that are not out of service?
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