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10/25/2012 12:34 AM
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ILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN KOREA WITH MY FAST INTERNET AND DOWNLOAD LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER. INTERNET PIRACY IS AN ARTFORM HERE.
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10/25/2012 12:38 AM
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ILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN KOREA WITH MY FAST INTERNET AND DOWNLOAD LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER. INTERNET PIRACY IS AN ARTFORM HERE.
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It is good for our economy here, I mean, the stuff sells dirt cheap in the Orient anyways.

U.S.A., in general, views p2p as the source of piracy, which is what gets people caught.
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10/25/2012 12:47 AM
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How can they do that? That's like the post office opening all your mail and reading it, then warning you if they think you might be doing something naughty.

Do the ISPs want to be "Common Carriers" or not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26102938


Nah its like this, the copyright trolls get the torrent and start downloading it themselves.
Then they get a list of IP addresses on the torrent and send requests to the ISP saying these people have infringed on us.
Then the ISP interrupts the customers service that they are paying for based on this petty irrelevant allegation.
And gives them fake legal advice(which is illegal) that downloading copied movies for personal use is a crime(when it is not).
And then spams them with ads on websites to buy things.
You see what a giant fail this is? cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


With torrents you are uploading to your peers, so you are a distributor of copyrighted material, so you kinda fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


So when you get in your car, and take your DVD's to your friends house and they watch them?
Are you distributing copyrighted material?
This is in fact not true what you have said at all.
It is not considered criminal distribution of copyrighted works when it is for private personal FREE use.
The fact someone can sue you, is irrelevant, because anyone can sue anyone for anything.
It has nothing to do with Criminal law.
Think Napster ok? No criminal charges, just law suit.
Because it was FREE. Selling copyrighted material is a CRIME.
This is a dis information campaign put out by shills.
If an ISP notified someone they were doing something illegal, they would be an accessory if they didn't report it.
Do ISP's even ring up pedos and say hey dude listen we seen youve been downloading child porn you need to stop ok because its against the law?
No, no fucking way would they ever do this, because they just acknowledge they KNEW the pedo was doing it and didn't report it to the police.
Downloading and uploading media for personal free private use is NOT illegal.
Understand it.
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10/25/2012 12:50 AM
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which is what gets people caught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
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10/25/2012 12:51 AM
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I got a warning about a month or so ago from my isp provider due to my son and his downloading stuff...apparently copyrighted stuff??? But needless to say he stopped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25927895

last week i pulled up to a RR crossing with vehicles stopped on both sides no train in sight so i drove around the barricades right into the hardware store parking lot.

maybe you or your son could tell me what the drivers were thinking as they saw me walking into the store.
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10/25/2012 01:00 AM
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just stop using the isp's that will enforce this and watch how fast they will change their minds
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 Quoting: Drunkenkungfu


Wow, really??? You realize that the companies that provide internet & telephony are monopolies right? You don't have a "choice" of whatever company you chose. You have a "choice" of what company is "in your area". Where I live it's either Verizon, Cablevision or Time Warner; that's it, and they all have the same policies.

Also, if you are stupid enough to download stuff from public torrent sites, use stupid P2P programs and unsecured sources you deserve to be punished. Unless you are downloading from secure places like through SFTP FTP servers or SSL capable usenet servers or private torrent sites that support SSL encryption while downloading your torrent, then you are asking to be arrested.
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10/25/2012 01:07 AM
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With torrents you are uploading to your peers, so you are a distributor of copyrighted material, so you kinda fail.
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You fail, because if you are using a seedbox to download your stuff, located in a country that does not have strict or ANY laws regarding intellectual property, anything you download or seed (aka being a "peer") means nothing. Next time you post maybe you should have some knowledge of the topic you're posting about.
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10/25/2012 01:07 AM
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i'm not saying it was aliens but it was aliens
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i'm not saying it was aliens but it was aliens
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ohyeah giorgiodontcare



Thanks for the pin!
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I lol'd!!!
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which is what gets people caught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing. That is what downloading copyrighted materials that you are supposed to pay for by law. The material was created to sell, right?

Would you steal from a store? Well, is stealing from the internet somehow more noble?

Your choosing not to pay the creators of the product is hurting them and the whole line of trade that comprises the retail system.
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10/25/2012 01:12 AM
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which is what gets people caught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
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10/25/2012 01:12 AM
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With torrents you are uploading to your peers, so you are a distributor of copyrighted material, so you kinda fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You fail, because if you are using a seedbox to download your stuff, located in a country that does not have strict or ANY laws regarding intellectual property, anything you download or seed (aka being a "peer") means nothing. Next time you post maybe you should have some knowledge of the topic you're posting about.
 Quoting: upgrad3


Was he talking about seed boxes? No... I guess thats why you didn't include his post.

Torrents are for newbies in actuality.
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10/25/2012 01:13 AM
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That is what downloading copyrighted materials that you are supposed to pay for by law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


"Supposed to pay for"? lmao
So I am forced to buy something I don't want?
So if I taped it off the radio? How stupid do you think people are? Your shill lies are not working.
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10/25/2012 01:15 AM
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YouTube will need to be shut down. They are a platform for posting copyrighted material. There are programs that allow you to download those videos.
All download sites will need to be shut down, as they are platforms for piracy.
Any program, such as YouTubeDownloader, and others that allow the person to obtain and convert downloaded copyrighted material will be made illegal. That is, if they are serious.
Providing the tools for illegal downloading copyrighted material such as mp3 and video would be considered illegal and those who put them online would be prosecuted. Again, if the industry is serious about stopping piracy.
Let's face it, pirates don't give a shit about videos of other peoples' bullshit, such as animal videos and personal rants and the like. They want the good stuff, movies and music, and it's ALL copyrighted.
That means, if the industry wants change, they have to go after EVERYONE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


Good point about YouTube. I wonder what they will do about that.
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10/25/2012 01:16 AM
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Would you steal from a store?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


How fucking stupid are you? Did you have a brain injury as a child?
How fucking retarded do you have to be, to realize that if you take something from a store without paying for it.
They lose "the thing" itself?
And that copying a song and listening to it, because you don't WANT to buy it, is NOT stealing it?
You haven't removed anything from the person who made the song, they still have the ability to sell it.
Is it a crime that you chose not to buy their song?
You are seriously one fucked up lunatic retard to believe such crap.
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10/25/2012 01:17 AM
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ILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN KOREA WITH MY FAST INTERNET AND DOWNLOAD LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER. INTERNET PIRACY IS AN ARTFORM HERE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13361883


Lol, yeah!
Why even have 100mbps optics, if you can't download stuff like no tomorrow! :D
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10/25/2012 01:18 AM
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which is what gets people caught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing. That is what downloading copyrighted materials that you are supposed to pay for by law. The material was created to sell, right?

Would you steal from a store? Well, is stealing from the internet somehow more noble?

Your choosing not to pay the creators of the product is hurting them and the whole line of trade that comprises the retail system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You talk about the creator of the product not getting their money? Right? But then why is it that the creator's of these "products" are getting ripped off by their own record labels? They make a VERY small percentage of album sales, so if you want to label someone as "robbing or stealing" from these artists, it's the record labels not the people who dowload their music and a majority of people that downloads their album end up physically buying their album.
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which is what gets people caught.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
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10/25/2012 01:22 AM
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Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


The why isn't Youtube already shut down in the US? That place is a steaming pile of copyrighted material like Gaga and Bieber :D
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10/25/2012 01:22 AM
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If you don't like the position that your ISP has you in (bananasex), find another partner.


Money talks, B.S. walks!
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Caught? Why do you people keep speaking like its a crime?
Call the police now and tell them someone is downloading a movie for free, will they get arrested? Why not?
The fact that someone can sue you, and prove you infringed on them, does not make something illegal.
It just means they were awarded damages because they could prove they were infringed upon, it has nothing to do with penalties or crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036

Seriously YOU are the one who looks stupid.
Because it is NOT against the law.
Why are people not arrested then? Explain this?
Why do they have to go to great lengths, and privately sue them in civil litigation?
You are so stupid, you don't even have a high school understanding of the law cruise
Distribute, means SELL, fuckwit!
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10/25/2012 01:22 AM
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Would you steal from a store?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


How fucking stupid are you? Did you have a brain injury as a child?
How fucking retarded do you have to be, to realize that if you take something from a store without paying for it.
They lose "the thing" itself?
And that copying a song and listening to it, because you don't WANT to buy it, is NOT stealing it?
You haven't removed anything from the person who made the song, they still have the ability to sell it.
Is it a crime that you chose not to buy their song?
You are seriously one fucked up lunatic retard to believe such crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


Look, the same thing you get off the internet is the same thing people pay for in stores or online. Can you understand that? So, knowing you are getting what people pay for for free is stealing.

You can buy stuff from the store and throw it away too. Order it off iTunes and delete it. This is what people do who can afford it.

I see you hold to your philosophy like a toddler to his mom's leg.
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10/25/2012 01:26 AM
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My ISP blocks isohunt.com

Doesn't really bother me I have other ways to access it.
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You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


The why isn't Youtube already shut down in the US? That place is a steaming pile of copyrighted material like Gaga and Bieber :D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7586312



KimDotCom made the same arguement on why his services was any different to Youtube and Goggle yet they are still operating..I think the reply was they were immune from prosecution for some reason.
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10/25/2012 01:28 AM
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The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You call him stupid, yet something you say is "illegal" in the US should be punished by law....Yet, copying cassette tapes, vhs tapes, dvds, and now copying albums encoded in mp3 format and sharing with people is horrible.

I don't get it?? If you copied a VHS movie and gave it to your friend back 10 years no one would have cared and wouldn't think it was illegal. But downloading mp3s is???

Making a mix tape of stuff that was recorded from the radio back in the day, was that illegal? Technically it was, but did anyone care? No? So why care about MP3s/FLAC??????

Last Edited by upgrad3 on 10/25/2012 01:29 AM
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10/25/2012 01:29 AM
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This dipshit like most others does not even understand the difference between civil commercial law and criminal law.
Nothing is ILLEGAL under civil commercial law.
However if you think what someone did to you hurt you or was bad to you, even though NOT ILLEGAL, like downloading copyrighted material, you have the right to seek compensation.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything, it does not make any of it legal or illegal.
And in fact all of the cases tried under this, have been a sham from the start.
And to date none of the downloaders have paid 1 cent.
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You seem to not realize that it is stealing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036

Seriously YOU are the one who looks stupid.
Because it is NOT against the law.
Why are people not arrested then? Explain this?
Why do they have to go to great lengths, and privately sue them in civil litigation?
You are so stupid, you don't even have a high school understanding of the law cruise
Distribute, means SELL, fuckwit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


Not only do you not know what distribute means, you are relentlessly defending your impoverished position in life.

Show us all how proud you are that you cannot afford to buy things! Show us your infallible logic crafted from a life that has been so deprived of monetary assets!
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This dipshit like most others does not even understand the difference between civil commercial law and criminal law.
Nothing is ILLEGAL under civil commercial law.
However if you think what someone did to you hurt you or was bad to you, even though NOT ILLEGAL, like downloading copyrighted material, you have the right to seek compensation.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything, it does not make any of it legal or illegal.
And in fact all of the cases tried under this, have been a sham from the start.
And to date none of the downloaders have paid 1 cent.
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clappa
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10/25/2012 01:32 AM
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Making a mix tape of stuff that was recorded from the radio back in the day, was that illegal? Technically it was
 Quoting: upgrad3


NO not criminally, not an offense against the law.
But, if the people who owned it, thought it hurt them, they have the right to try to seek compensation from you.
This does not make it ILLEGAL or LEGAL.
This is all simply about trying to take over the internet and monetize every single thing people do on it.
When the internet first started there was patent trolls trying to say they invented the internet and people would have to pay royalty fees to browse the web.
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You seem to not realize the law, and that it is NOT stealing, it is not a crime.
Because a lost theoretical sale, is not losing something, it is simply not selling something.
If this was the case, all makers of double cassette decks and DVD burners would be arrested, you pathetic fucking shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


The old philosophy, "I wasn't going to buy it, so nobody's losing out."

It is not against the law to make backups of DVD's btw. It is however illegal, in the U.S.A., to distribute copyrighted material.

It is just a fact. I don't even care, but you are just coming off as stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036

Seriously YOU are the one who looks stupid.
Because it is NOT against the law.
Why are people not arrested then? Explain this?
Why do they have to go to great lengths, and privately sue them in civil litigation?
You are so stupid, you don't even have a high school understanding of the law cruise
Distribute, means SELL, fuckwit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25894429


Not only do you not know what distribute means, you are relentlessly defending your impoverished position in life.

Show us all how proud you are that you cannot afford to buy things! Show us your infallible logic crafted from a life that has been so deprived of monetary assets!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23917036


LOLZ!!! You're saying he's poor and that's why he my pirate! LOLZ, you are a uninformed moron who shouldn't even speak on this topic.
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