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Unskewed Polls Definitive Prediction: Romney 359 / Obama 179 ~Look at that red map!!

 
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The QStarNews projection of the 2012 presidential race sees Mitt Romney being elected the next president of the United States with 53.63 percent of the popular vote and 359 electoral votes to President Obama's 45.92 percent and 179 electoral votes.
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Released today!

The QStarNews projection of the 2012 presidential race sees Mitt Romney being elected the next president of the United States with 53.63 percent of the popular vote and 359 electoral votes to President Obama's 45.92 percent and 179 electoral votes.
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Interesting map - not too many "blue" states on there!
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If I wake up Wednesday morning to this map, I'm taking off work and celebrating!
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There is no doubt in my mind, Mitt Romney will be our 45th President.

The riots will begin within minutes of Obama's concession.
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There is no doubt in my mind, Mitt Romney will be our 45th President.

The riots will begin within minutes of Obama's concession.
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Don't tease me! Riots would be such an opportunity to clean up the trash and drop unemployment at same time.
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I'll be putting up a page soon that shows Romney winning by 409 to 129, so wait till then to make your paypal donations on my page.
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There is no doubt in my mind, Mitt Romney will be our 45th President.

The riots will begin within minutes of Obama's concession.
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If he wins by a landslide like this I don't think there will be wide spread riots.

It it's close, there will be riots.
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Only the most respected and on target poll. Do you not follow all the polls?
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Only the most respected and on target poll. Do you not follow all the polls?
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Dean Chambers employs a flawed methodology and to give his "results" any credibility is to support inanity.
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Wow.

No riots if it's that much of a landslide.

So…the houses in the hood can breathe a sigh of relief!!
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Let the riots begin!

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Ed will scream, Chris will cry and Rachel will be speechless.
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 Quoting: Wonkish


Only the most respected and on target poll. Do you not follow all the polls?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


Dean Chambers employs a flawed methodology and to give his "results" any credibility is to support inanity.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think you might be. Look at their history with past elections.

Either way, I'll take anything even close to their prediction.
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 Quoting: Wonkish


Only the most respected and on target poll. Do you not follow all the polls?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


Dean Chambers employs a flawed methodology and to give his "results" any credibility is to support inanity.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think you might be. Look at their history with past elections.

Either way, I'll take anything even close to their prediction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


I am not mistaken as Dean Chambers, the individual who created unskewed polls, is employing a flawed methodology to arrive at his "results." You need to have some knowledge of statistics to see this and most of the general populace is statistically illiterate.

As for your comment about "look[ing] at their history with past elections," a quick glance of the whois results of unskewed polls shows that the website was created on 28 August 2012. A consequence of this finding shows that the site, unskewedpolls.com, has no history. You were mistaken on that fact as well.

You can verify the whois results if you are using a mac or GNU/Linux by opening the terminal and typing "whois unskewedpolls.com"

Here are the results in the event that you are too lazy to do so:


:~ $ whois unskewedpolls.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to [link to www.internic.net]
for detailed information.

Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: [link to registrar.godaddy.com]
Name Server: NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
Name Server: NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-sep-2012
Creation Date: 28-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 28-aug-2013

>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:24:46 UTC <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC ( [link to www.godaddy.com)]
Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Created on: 28-Aug-12
Expires on: 28-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 15-Sep-12

Registrant:
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States

Administrative Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Technical Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Domain servers in listed order:
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Only the most respected and on target poll. Do you not follow all the polls?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


Dean Chambers employs a flawed methodology and to give his "results" any credibility is to support inanity.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think you might be. Look at their history with past elections.

Either way, I'll take anything even close to their prediction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


I am not mistaken as Dean Chambers, the individual who created unskewed polls, is employing both a flawed design and methodology to arrive at his "results." You need to have some knowledge of statistics to see this and most of the general populace is statistically illiterate.

As for your comment about "look[ing] at their history with past elections," a quick glance of the whois results of unskewed polls shows that the website was created on 28 August 2012. A consequence of this finding shows that the site, unskewedpolls.com, has no history. You were mistaken on that fact as well.

You can verify the whois results if you are using a mac or GNU/Linux by opening the terminal and typing "whois unskewedpolls.com"

Here are the results in the event that you are too lazy to do so:


:~ $ whois unskewedpolls.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to [link to www.internic.net]
for detailed information.

Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: [link to registrar.godaddy.com]
Name Server: NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
Name Server: NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-sep-2012
Creation Date: 28-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 28-aug-2013

>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:24:46 UTC <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
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database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
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about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
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unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
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and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC ( [link to www.godaddy.com)]
Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Created on: 28-Aug-12
Expires on: 28-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 15-Sep-12

Registrant:
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States

Administrative Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Technical Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
 Quoting: Wonkish

They show their history right there on the site.

I have knowledge in stats. A masters in fact. :-) No laziness here. Not trying to bait; no reason to be defensive or anything. Just saying it would be great if this map turns out to be even close. If you're an Obama supporter I understand you're responses. But again, just sharing the information I came across and hoping as a Romney supporter for anything near that! Peace. :-)
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Dean Chambers employs a flawed methodology and to give his "results" any credibility is to support inanity.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think you might be. Look at their history with past elections.

Either way, I'll take anything even close to their prediction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


I am not mistaken as Dean Chambers, the individual who created unskewed polls, is employing both a flawed design and methodology to arrive at his "results." You need to have some knowledge of statistics to see this and most of the general populace is statistically illiterate.

As for your comment about "look[ing] at their history with past elections," a quick glance of the whois results of unskewed polls shows that the website was created on 28 August 2012. A consequence of this finding shows that the site, unskewedpolls.com, has no history. You were mistaken on that fact as well.

You can verify the whois results if you are using a mac or GNU/Linux by opening the terminal and typing "whois unskewedpolls.com"

Here are the results in the event that you are too lazy to do so:


:~ $ whois unskewedpolls.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to [link to www.internic.net]
for detailed information.

Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: [link to registrar.godaddy.com]
Name Server: NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
Name Server: NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-sep-2012
Creation Date: 28-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 28-aug-2013

>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:24:46 UTC <<<

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly
prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to
use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or
query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register
domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right
to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure
operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the
Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
The data contained in GoDaddy.com, LLC's WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, LLC. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, LLC
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC ( [link to www.godaddy.com)]
Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Created on: 28-Aug-12
Expires on: 28-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 15-Sep-12

Registrant:
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States

Administrative Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Technical Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
 Quoting: Wonkish

They show their history right there on the site.

I have knowledge in stats. A masters in fact. :-) No laziness here. Not trying to bait; no reason to be defensive or anything. Just saying it would be great if this map turns out to be even close. If you're an Obama supporter I understand you're responses. But again, just sharing the information I came across and hoping as a Romney supporter for anything near that! Peace. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If you have a masters in stats, then you should be able to understand two of the main problems of his analysis: the treatment of the data from other sources and the blatant disregard for the assumptions made by other pollsters who conducted those polls. Chambers's methodology flies in the face of convention and throws rigor out the door for partisan gain.

The focus should not center around one's partisan bias, it should be on the integrity, rigor, and predictive power of the tests, or in this case polls.
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Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think you might be. Look at their history with past elections.

Either way, I'll take anything even close to their prediction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


I am not mistaken as Dean Chambers, the individual who created unskewed polls, is employing both a flawed design and methodology to arrive at his "results." You need to have some knowledge of statistics to see this and most of the general populace is statistically illiterate.

As for your comment about "look[ing] at their history with past elections," a quick glance of the whois results of unskewed polls shows that the website was created on 28 August 2012. A consequence of this finding shows that the site, unskewedpolls.com, has no history. You were mistaken on that fact as well.

You can verify the whois results if you are using a mac or GNU/Linux by opening the terminal and typing "whois unskewedpolls.com"

Here are the results in the event that you are too lazy to do so:


:~ $ whois unskewedpolls.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to [link to www.internic.net]
for detailed information.

Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: [link to registrar.godaddy.com]
Name Server: NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
Name Server: NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-sep-2012
Creation Date: 28-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 28-aug-2013

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Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Created on: 28-Aug-12
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Last Updated on: 15-Sep-12

Registrant:
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
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Administrative Contact:
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East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
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 Quoting: Wonkish

They show their history right there on the site.

I have knowledge in stats. A masters in fact. :-) No laziness here. Not trying to bait; no reason to be defensive or anything. Just saying it would be great if this map turns out to be even close. If you're an Obama supporter I understand you're responses. But again, just sharing the information I came across and hoping as a Romney supporter for anything near that! Peace. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If you have a masters in stats, then you should be able to understand two of the main problems of his analysis: the treatment of the data from other sources and the blatant disregard for the assumptions made by other pollsters who conducted those polls. Chambers's methodology flies in the face of convention and throws rigor out the door for partisan gain.

The focus should not center around one's partisan bias, it should be on the integrity, rigor, and predictive power of the tests, or in this case polls.
 Quoting: Wonkish

Well, it's like you're asking him not to unskew. If he treated the data from other sources as they see it then it would be pointless to unskew it. He disregards the assumptions made by other pollsters because they base their assumptions on partisan bias. That's the whole point. But that's where we butt heads I guess.
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I am not mistaken as Dean Chambers, the individual who created unskewed polls, is employing both a flawed design and methodology to arrive at his "results." You need to have some knowledge of statistics to see this and most of the general populace is statistically illiterate.

As for your comment about "look[ing] at their history with past elections," a quick glance of the whois results of unskewed polls shows that the website was created on 28 August 2012. A consequence of this finding shows that the site, unskewedpolls.com, has no history. You were mistaken on that fact as well.

You can verify the whois results if you are using a mac or GNU/Linux by opening the terminal and typing "whois unskewedpolls.com"

Here are the results in the event that you are too lazy to do so:


:~ $ whois unskewedpolls.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to [link to www.internic.net]
for detailed information.

Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: [link to registrar.godaddy.com]
Name Server: NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
Name Server: NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 15-sep-2012
Creation Date: 28-aug-2012
Expiration Date: 28-aug-2013

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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC ( [link to www.godaddy.com)]
Domain Name: UNSKEWEDPOLLS.COM
Created on: 28-Aug-12
Expires on: 28-Aug-13
Last Updated on: 15-Sep-12

Registrant:
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States

Administrative Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Technical Contact:
Chambers, D. M. Ross dean@gop2112.com
Q Star Productions
47 Blueberry Lane
East Falmouth, Massachusetts 02536
United States
(508) 566-5747

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.QSTARGROUP.COM
NS2.QSTARGROUP.COM
 Quoting: Wonkish

They show their history right there on the site.

I have knowledge in stats. A masters in fact. :-) No laziness here. Not trying to bait; no reason to be defensive or anything. Just saying it would be great if this map turns out to be even close. If you're an Obama supporter I understand you're responses. But again, just sharing the information I came across and hoping as a Romney supporter for anything near that! Peace. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If you have a masters in stats, then you should be able to understand two of the main problems of his analysis: the treatment of the data from other sources and the blatant disregard for the assumptions made by other pollsters who conducted those polls. Chambers's methodology flies in the face of convention and throws rigor out the door for partisan gain.

The focus should not center around one's partisan bias, it should be on the integrity, rigor, and predictive power of the tests, or in this case polls.
 Quoting: Wonkish

Well, it's like you're asking him not to unskew. If he treated the data from other sources as they see it then it would be pointless to unskew it. He disregards the assumptions made by other pollsters because they base their assumptions on partisan bias. That's the whole point. But that's where we butt heads I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If a random sample yields higher proportions of democrats, republicans, or independents, why should the results of the poll be changed so as not to reflect the sample that was taken, but instead reflect what he believes the samples levels should be based the results of another poll that's based on a completely different set of assumptions? The answer of course lies in the concept of randomness and why we embrace randomness as means to minimize bias. If he is going to disregard the other pollsters assumptions, then he needs to disregard the entire dataset as it was constructed from those assumptions.
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 Quoting: Wonkish


No shit.

I bet if you added 12 points to every Obama poll the way "unskewed" does the map would look pretty good for him, too!

Enjoy your fantasies while you still can, repukes.
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10/25/2012 02:33 AM
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Re: Unskewed Polls Definitive Prediction: Romney 359 / Obama 179 ~Look at that red map!!
If I'm not mistaken, it would be the first time that a governor ever won the presidency without carrying his state. According to the map, Romney loses MA.
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They show their history right there on the site.

I have knowledge in stats. A masters in fact. :-) No laziness here. Not trying to bait; no reason to be defensive or anything. Just saying it would be great if this map turns out to be even close. If you're an Obama supporter I understand you're responses. But again, just sharing the information I came across and hoping as a Romney supporter for anything near that! Peace. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If you have a masters in stats, then you should be able to understand two of the main problems of his analysis: the treatment of the data from other sources and the blatant disregard for the assumptions made by other pollsters who conducted those polls. Chambers's methodology flies in the face of convention and throws rigor out the door for partisan gain.

The focus should not center around one's partisan bias, it should be on the integrity, rigor, and predictive power of the tests, or in this case polls.
 Quoting: Wonkish

Well, it's like you're asking him not to unskew. If he treated the data from other sources as they see it then it would be pointless to unskew it. He disregards the assumptions made by other pollsters because they base their assumptions on partisan bias. That's the whole point. But that's where we butt heads I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


If a random sample yields higher proportions of democrats, republicans, or independents, why should the results of the poll be changed so as not to reflect the sample that was taken, but instead reflect what he believes the samples levels should be based the results of another poll that's based on a completely different set of assumptions? The answer of course lies in the concept of randomness and why we embrace randomness as means to minimize bias. If he is going to disregard the other pollsters assumptions, then he needs to disregard the entire dataset as it was constructed from those assumptions.
 Quoting: Wonkish


I see what your'e getting at. But, the problem is that ALL the polls are skewed and it's an attempt to unskew them. This poll is the only one that takes in the fact that in 2010 there was an unprecedented number of republicans elected in blue states or that 2008 will never be matched as far as who turned out (and that's how the other polls are skewed). It also takes an average, unlike other polls. It takes a different assumption in that it averages them against different variables. But I don't think it disregards other assumptions all together.

At then end of the day, all the polls are different and all of them use different sets of constants set against different randoms. But the reason I posted this is because THIS is the one I like the most and it's the most extreme. It was thread worthy. If RCP posted an all red map, I'd start a thread on it! :-)
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Re: Unskewed Polls Definitive Prediction: Romney 359 / Obama 179 ~Look at that red map!!
If I'm not mistaken, it would be the first time that a governor ever won the presidency without carrying his state. According to the map, Romney loses MA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21211135

Lol, yeh, or you could look at it in the light of a republican governor that miraculously won MA in the first place. And balanced their budget, with money left over. For starters.

It's a democratic state. That says nothing against Romney. What it says FOR Romney are the percentages, which are higher than usual towards republicans!
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10/25/2012 02:40 AM
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Re: Unskewed Polls Definitive Prediction: Romney 359 / Obama 179 ~Look at that red map!!
If I'm not mistaken, it would be the first time that a governor ever won the presidency without carrying his state. According to the map, Romney loses MA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21211135

Lol, yeh, or you could look at it in the light of a republican governor that miraculously won MA in the first place. And balanced their budget, with money left over. For starters.

It's a democratic state. That says nothing against Romney. What it says FOR Romney are the percentages, which are higher than usual towards republicans!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23534110


He left a billion dollar deficit and he was possibly their worst governor ever.
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Re: Unskewed Polls Definitive Prediction: Romney 359 / Obama 179 ~Look at that red map!!
Would be the largest landslide in the history of the world.

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