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Is it time to re-think eugenics?

 
Billy_Sastard
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Is it time to re-think eugenics?
After watching the following documentary on eugenics, I think the attitude I came away with is the opposite of what the creators intended. It seems to me that in this day and age, people are breeding FOR failure of the human race, and are not thinking at all about what their decisions mean for the future.

If a 'mentally challenged' couple wants to have babies, for every 1 person against it there are 1000 people who want to let them do as they please. This kind of behavior is degrading the entirety of the human genome, just look at the hordes of low IQ burden-to-society people around the globe, which are reproducing faster than ever...

Sure back in the early 1900's the methods of choosing who is fit to breed and who is not was, shall we say, less than an exact science, and maybe even barbaric. However with today's advances in genetics, and the ability to relatively easily identify detrimental genes, I see more reason than ever for a re-evaluation of eugenics.

Should people who have genes which cause downs syndrome have babies? Should people who are genetically predisposed to psychosis reproduce? I understand that these decisions are hard to make and leave open very real issues of racism and discrimination, but in the end do we keep going like we are at the expense of our very species, or do we make the hard decisions for a better future of mankind?




Last Edited by Billy_Sastard on 10/25/2012 12:13 PM
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
Eugenics is a great idea that is still practiced by everyone whether admitted or not.

It has slowly been replaced with modern technology such as " custom " Babies and what not. They now use Genetic Engineering to accomplish the same goal.

Eugenics should have been the standard for the last century or so. But... No.... Cant have that.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
While watching the doc, I could not help but wonder about the connections between the eugenics practices back then and the rise in life expectancy in the later 1900's, and then the falling out of eugenics causing our recent downturn in life expectancies?

[link to www.motherjones.com]

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It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
Eugenics is a great idea that is still practiced by everyone whether admitted or not.

It has slowly been replaced with modern technology such as " custom " Babies and what not. They now use Genetic Engineering to accomplish the same goal.

Eugenics should have been the standard for the last century or so. But... No.... Cant have that.
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Well, that changed after what Hilter had done. I suppose that's why liberals hated him so much...

When you have a racist like Margaret Sanger starting Planned Parenthood as a way to keep black population down, it'd bound to look bad on you.

Now we have technology to reduce numbers of disabled kids that would save them a lot of money in the long run. We will eventually get there but liberals will ruin it like they always do. I prefer libertarian/conservative ways as they have proved to be more accurate and right on a lot of things.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
While watching the doc, I could not help but wonder about the connections between the eugenics practices back then and the rise in life expectancy in the later 1900's, and then the falling out of eugenics causing our recent downturn in life expectancies?

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


Mother Jones? It is a left wing POS that is obsessed trying to ruin anyone not siding with Democrat Party.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
While watching the doc, I could not help but wonder about the connections between the eugenics practices back then and the rise in life expectancy in the later 1900's, and then the falling out of eugenics causing our recent downturn in life expectancies?

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


Mother Jones? It is a left wing POS that is obsessed trying to ruin anyone not siding with Democrat Party.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


To be honest, I wasn't even paying attention to the site, just the article. I can post 5 more sources for similar info...

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.forbes.com]

[link to www.wsws.org]

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

[link to www.pophealthmetrics.com]
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
:abomb::abomb::abomb:
BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
just go back to survival of the fittest...

no more free moni and food!

problem solved.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
After watching the following documentary on eugenics, I think the attitude I came away with is the opposite of what the creators intended. It seems to me that in this day and age, people are breeding FOR failure of the human race, and are not thinking at all about what their decisions mean for the future.
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard

Spot on, and a lot of people that is on the dole is breeding for the children or family benefits.

A lot of this are african or people that for religious reasons feel compelled to have a large offspring but gives a rat ass about the education or development of their children.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
Eugenics is a great idea that is still practiced by everyone whether admitted or not.

It has slowly been replaced with modern technology such as " custom " Babies and what not. They now use Genetic Engineering to accomplish the same goal.

Eugenics should have been the standard for the last century or so. But... No.... Cant have that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


Well, that changed after what Hilter had done. I suppose that's why liberals hated him so much...

When you have a racist like Margaret Sanger starting Planned Parenthood as a way to keep black population down, it'd bound to look bad on you.

Now we have technology to reduce numbers of disabled kids that would save them a lot of money in the long run. We will eventually get there but liberals will ruin it like they always do. I prefer libertarian/conservative ways as they have proved to be more accurate and right on a lot of things.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Hitler and his cronies turned what should have been a valid area of scientific research and debate into an emotion laden topic that is virtually forbidden as a subject of public debate. The moment the word "eugenics" is mentioned, otherwise intelligent people, lose all control of their rational faculties and start braying like donkeys.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
Playing God?
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
It wasn't just practiced back in the 1900 it went into the 60s.

There is no 'science' guided by men that is capable of playing GOD.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
Playing God?
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Because, if GOD wills it, he will intercede and eliminate detrimental genetics for the good of mankind?

GOD does not keep retarded people from having retarded babies, MAN does by sterilizing the retards or preventing them from mating with other retards. (A bit blunt, maybe, but sometimes bluntness is the only way to get a point across...)
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
While watching the doc, I could not help but wonder about the connections between the eugenics practices back then and the rise in life expectancy in the later 1900's, and then the falling out of eugenics causing our recent downturn in life expectancies?

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


it's not over yet...they are conducting this test still as we speak...look at the environment..the food we eat ....the chemicals being used.........and so on..


it's the next step in a scientific process......

the research(is you and everyone else).....

they already know what can happen if do this ...in order for that to occur.....
(nazis gather this prior.....and used ...and continuing to do so at a grand scale)
now....that that research is done....now it's place in a societal setting.....again still the next step in research...they are looking at the survival concept....and the conditioning of not knowning of it's true orgins..especially when it comes to dieases,viruses, etc.

and then ....acceptance......... just the way peole have come to the point of accepting .....evolution.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
That already have, it's called ''Transhumanism''; look into it.

Eugenics with a candy coating & a xenomorphic twist.

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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
That already have, it's called ''Transhumanism''; look into it.

Eugenics with a candy coating & a xenomorphic twist.

peace
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Eugenics means working with what is there naturally. What you are talking about is active change of genetic make up by gene manipulation and modification.

Eugenics is what humans used to make cows and chickens. Xenomorphism is how we get roses that glow in the dark.
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Re: Is it time to re-think eugenics?
That already have, it's called ''Transhumanism''; look into it.

Eugenics with a candy coating & a xenomorphic twist.

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963968


Eugenics means working with what is there naturally. What you are talking about is active change of genetic make up by gene manipulation and modification.

Eugenics is what humans used to make cows and chickens. Xenomorphism is how we get roses that glow in the dark.
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Yes, and it has all been lumped together under the moniker of ''Transhumanism''.

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