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BREAKING- October Surprise Drops! Obama Denied Help For Besieged Benghazi Consulate AT LEAST TWICE, In Real Time!

 
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This makes me sad for the victims families...

To lose a loved one, then hear they asked for help from our government and were denied....

Obama literally hung them out to dry..
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The voters are about to hang him out to dry on 6 Nov.

Even the Liberal Media polls are showing Romney ahead & getting stronger.
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What about in Ohio?

That's the big one.
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I think he may get a surprise in Ohio.

my father & brothers are all Union guys. They & all their friends are voting Romney. They nod their heads when the union reps talk but intend to vote against Obama.

They see him as a Socialist, a muslim & other descriptions of profanity you can probably guess at.
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Cool story brah.

No link. . .

This is just fairy tales and propaganda.

Your name only pretends to be ironic, 'pravda', you parasitic sociopath.
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Yes, the truth is ALWAYS a fairy tale to you Obama Worshippers, isn't it!
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The bottom line here is that BHO and his Administration had literally left our people to die. A priority Flash message is nothing to be trifled with. Equally the premise that has been presented by the OP who started this thread is logical and on the mark. Either way, we are looking at a grievous act of high crimes and misdemeanor aka TREASON.

Accountability is in high order here. It's obvious the WH and Dept of State has failed in their attempts at Damage Control. Heads will roll and the we are bearing witness to a major turning point in our country. Charges should be brought up and levied. Damn the elections! A massive coverup of major proportions is attempting to take place. The military and/or the Agency should have sent teams in regardless. Any real military commander and/or case officer worth their salt as an America, should have broken orders to go conduct a hot extraction. As a Marine veteran, it's our job to go and get the job done. Sometimes orders must be broken and/or circumvented, what happened in Benghazi, Libya is a prime example. Especially when you have dedicated extraction teams from both the Service and CIA on stand by for just such a TARFU mission.

Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him. That's just me. If Big Sis wants to come for me over my voicing the obvious, bring it. The American People should say enough of the games and lost lives. More lives getting lost because of this sellout of a so-called President Appeaser to Islam. It's a bloody shame.

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The CIA stood down twice because the fighting died down twice. And right now there is some soldiers facing off the Taliban in Afganistan, but who cant engage them since Obama didnt order them too. Their dead because they are too stupid to think for themselves.
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WTF are you talking about? They will engage because such engagements are already authorized. If it weren't, they'd do it anyway like the soldiers did in the Benghazi attack.

Getting air support in a country where there isn't a war zone (though, I'd still consider it one personally) requires direct authorization. You can't expect a gunship to start firing in a foreign nation without authorization, let alone flying into such a country. Being denied this aid during the 4 hour battle is absurd.
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You think NATO is subservient to local militias? Hardly. They have airbases and lots of military hardware. And yes it is a warzone, or at least the war continues in country. And they dont need to fly "into the country" since they are already there. And of course they can fire their guns to their hearts content esp to respond to hostile attack. Read Rules of engagement. Common sense. Local commanders can employ those assets, for sure. Even if Obama was to micromanage from the White House, he would do so by consulting with local commanders.

Your belief in the story of Obama's active interference hangs on many assumptions which simply arent true.

We could pretend Obama made a call to local commanders just before or after Stevens made a call for help, and ordered them to "stand down". Afterall, the evidence for such a call is right here on GLP and no where else. Totally fabricated evidence, but evidence nevertheless...
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That commie rat bastard son of a commie rat bitch.
I hope I live to see him get what's coming to him.
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Dammit Toby...You screwed up!!


Back to Kunta Kinta...F.A.S.T.

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the Obama White Hut.

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rofl
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Are the ass-licking bastards on msm going to cover this?! Or are they going to bury it.

Too bad it wasn't one of theirs over there - they could bury body and story.

Sorry about my bitterness, but I'm so fucking pissed off about this.

That POS is running around the country in Air Force 1 - w/our tax $ begging us to vote for him.
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Beyond Unconscionable. This Is High Treason…AC-130U Gunship Was On-Scene In Benghazi, Obama Admin Refused to Let It Fire
Obama Admin Refused to Let It Fire
To:

If you don’t get torches-and-pitchforks irate about this, you are not an American:

The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
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Al CIAda wouldn't be such a strong force in the country if they hadn't been brought there to depose Qaddafi. I'm continually shocked that people can't see through the read team/blue team political BS, but there are a lot of scared and angry souls out there.
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Cool story brah.

No link. . .

This is just fairy tales and propaganda.

Your name only pretends to be ironic, 'pravda', you parasitic sociopath.
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Shut your fucking piehole, assface.
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The more we find out about the whole Libya situation, the clearer it becomes as to why the Obama administration wanted to hide the truth and sweep it under the rug as a simple "youtube video incited act of violence". They screwed up and they knew it right away. Now that the real story is coming out they are still playing dumb.
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Are the ass-licking bastards on msm going to cover this?! Or are they going to bury it.

Too bad it wasn't one of theirs over there - they could bury body and story.

Sorry about my bitterness, but I'm so fucking pissed off about this.

That POS is running around the country in Air Force 1 - w/our tax $ begging us to vote for him.
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There were 4, thats makes it even more shameful
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There goes the military vote, Ohhhh, they don't count those votes anyway.

When the female voting block, who the big Zero flaunts as his, hears that the chosen one would allow their brothers and husbands to be killed I don't think they will be very quick to vote for him.

This guy disgusts me more each day and I was sick of him before '08. The sound of his voice makes my stomach turn.

Who would want to risk their lives for a man who wouldn't even give them a fair shot at survival.

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remember when cheney said 'stand down' on terrible tuesday? more false flageseses.
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does anyone have a link, credible or otherwise, to suggest the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped...then released just before the election?

This is a BIG DEAL.

Let's don't joke about this or put out one liner GP bullshit...if this is true we arein deep doodoo people...this is our commander in chief that is being accused of outrageous behavior...

How is this breaking? Who is breaking it?
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Because Obama and his handlers didn't want footage of AMERICANS KILLING MUZZIES on TV during the election!!

THEY FOUGHT FOR SEVEN HOURS, only to be left to die by the Queer Media Messiah, afraid of what the morning news shows would say! The Lame Stream Media can't ignore this one if it pans out to be true....

This confirms my initial reaction...
Obama likely pounded the table and declared:
“We will NOT inject American forces into another mid-East country and create the impression we’re involved in a civil war!”

From there, these bastards set about inventing excuses.

Jennifer Griffin reported that every request for permission/authorization to aid those in the consulate was denied. These requests were not just made by those in the annex, but by several units that had mobilized, waiting for the go.

All requests to offer support was met with “STAND DOWN” from the Obama White Hut.

So now we know that the military WAS activated, and were told they could not do what they are trained to do in this kind of situation.

And since the SEALs were right there, and told not to do anything, at the very least their denial of permission wasn’t an issue of crossing into Libyan territory. Somebody was not allowing ANYBODY to try to help.

Obama Denied, Americans Died!

Panetta Denied, Soldiers Died!

Pick one, folks!

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We are just suppose to take you word for it or do you have a link?
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does anyone have a link, credible or otherwise, to suggest the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped...then released just before the election?

This is a BIG DEAL.

Let's don't joke about this or put out one liner GP bullshit...if this is true we arein deep doodoo people...this is our commander in chief that is being accused of outrageous behavior...

How is this breaking? Who is breaking it?
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Not the one I read but another view... [link to www.freerepublic.com]

Could it be that Gun Running negotiations went bad and that some kind of an "October Surprize" was "supposed" to happen in Benghazi? After the kidnapping we would have seen an outraged Obama, stoked up and rightously indignant over this, on National TV claiming it would not be tolerated and that we would secure the release of Stevens. He would maybe even have "suspended his campaign to deal with it...for all Americans to see.

Then October would have been full of "that" story, and you can bet it would invariably have led to a Stevens release just before the election.

But even without a kidnapping, the gun running through Al Quida which appears almost certian now due to email releases, journalist reports, and the direct ties between the US and the Al Quida leaders who helped bring down Quadaffi which have already been made, would be far more than enough reason for the Obama administration to desperately cover up what went on there.


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Fox News hasn't told their "low information" voters about this yet? ha

Why spoil their fun...talk among yourselves.
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Obama will be able to shrug this off like a gnat flying around his face.
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Obama will be able to shrug this off like a gnat flying around his face.
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Because Obama and his handlers didn't want footage of AMERICANS KILLING MUZZIES on TV during the election!!

THEY FOUGHT FOR SEVEN HOURS, only to be left to die by the Queer Media Messiah, afraid of what the morning news shows would say! The Lame Stream Media can't ignore this one if it pans out to be true....

This confirms my initial reaction...
Obama likely pounded the table and declared:
“We will NOT inject American forces into another mid-East country and create the impression we’re involved in a civil war!”

From there, these bastards set about inventing excuses.

Jennifer Griffin reported that every request for permission/authorization to aid those in the consulate was denied. These requests were not just made by those in the annex, but by several units that had mobilized, waiting for the go.

All requests to offer support was met with “STAND DOWN” from the Obama White Hut.

So now we know that the military WAS activated, and were told they could not do what they are trained to do in this kind of situation.

And since the SEALs were right there, and told not to do anything, at the very least their denial of permission wasn’t an issue of crossing into Libyan territory. Somebody was not allowing ANYBODY to try to help.

Obama Denied, Americans Died!

Panetta Denied, Soldiers Died!

Pick one, folks!

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Great link and evidence to support that all that.
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What's most telling about the last 4 years is the total dishonor of the US military from top to bottom. The parasite in chief should have been arrested years ago when he tried to take office. They're all getting what they asked for now. There will be no saving of the USA titanic now.
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Thread: The real reason behind Benghazigate Was Obama gun-walking arms to jihadists?

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Obama will be able to shrug this off like a gnat flying around his face.
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Right on..

The Fox & Friends crew is clueless about the real political news. The Co-Chair of the Romney campaign (Sununu) went racial on an American Hero, General Colin Powell. The Co-chair had to try and do damage control all day.

Also Romney won't do anymore interviews until after the election ha. That'll be 2 weeks total without an interview.

Ain't winning Ohio like that Willard..
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does anyone have a link, credible or otherwise, to suggest the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped...then released just before the election?

This is a BIG DEAL.

Let's don't joke about this or put out one liner GP bullshit...if this is true we arein deep doodoo people...this is our commander in chief that is being accused of outrageous behavior...

How is this breaking? Who is breaking it?
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Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him.

Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him.

Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him.

Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him.

Barack Hussein Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and others in his administration should be held accountable and face a Federal Grand Jury for willful criminal negligence and high treason for taking no action to save an American Ambassador and the two Agency assets that were on the ground in defense of him.
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does anyone have a link, credible or otherwise, to suggest the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped...then released just before the election?

This is a BIG DEAL.

Let's don't joke about this or put out one liner GP bullshit...if this is true we arein deep doodoo people...this is our commander in chief that is being accused of outrageous behavior...

How is this breaking? Who is breaking it?
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A poster on GLP made it up. He keeps on making new threads citing his previous thread as evidence. And people know its bullshit yet they support him saying its "plausible". That's it...
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Are the ass-licking bastards on msm going to cover this?! Or are they going to bury it.

Too bad it wasn't one of theirs over there - they could bury body and story.

Sorry about my bitterness, but I'm so fucking pissed off about this.

That POS is running around the country in Air Force 1 - w/our tax $ begging us to vote for him.
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On the 5:00 news here, Fox lead with it...CNN lead with the frankenstorm, and MSNBC lead with how great Obama is. So far, neither cnn or msnbc has covered it. Bastards!
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Please don't shoot the messenger...

On 10/10/2012 - the State Department provided the most complete account of the attacks in Benghazi. I summarized this account on MILMAN's World at War Thread. I've copied my summary below - but you can also find it on page 110 of MILMAN's thread...

If you accept this account, you can possibly understand why they didn't send in reinforcements

Officials describe the Benghazi compound as a large residence with a "safe haven" composed of several rooms.  Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, and five armed American security agents were in the compound on the night of attack, along with four local militia members.

At 9:40 pm, security agents heard loud noises at the front gate. The Libyan security guards fled and a number of heavily-armed men stormed the compound.  One armed agent took Stevens and Smith to the safe haven and radioed that he was with Stevens.  (The other security officers locked themselves in a separate building)

The attackers swarmed the villa. They tried to enter the safe haven, but could not. (The attackers did not know how close to the ambassador they came). The attackers then used diesel fuel to set the furniture on fire.  Unable to breathe, the 3 Americans decided to leave the safe haven.  Outside, there was gunfire, smoke and explosions.  

After the security officer left the building, he realized he was separated from Stevens and Smith. He returned into the building looking for them. He was joined by the other agents. The agents took turns searching for the men, crawling through the smoke-filled villa on their hands and knees. They found Smith, dead, but they were unable to find Stevens.

Six security personnel arrived from a “secure annex” with members of a Libyan militia. They drove consulate staff and Smith's body to the secure annex, running into traffic, hand grenades, and two flat tires. The annex then came under fire, killing two security personnel.  

I am not saying a believe this account, but, if you accept this account as true, I can understand why they would not want to send in reinforcements during the initial part of the attack. Every American in the compound was supposedly in a secure location. They were in safe havens & the attackers could not get to them...

If you sent in reinforcements, you would start a battle in central Benghazi...Note - Militia clashes in Libya have caused at least 300 deaths since March, 2012...Libya is a powder keg...why start the next civil war, which will make you look bad, if you can avoid it?

There was one huge problem with this thinking....the safe havens didn't have separate air supplies...So they weren't safe...The attackers were able to smoke out the ambassador & Sean...(wasn't that foreseeable?)

There's another big issue with the safe & hidden excuse - you have to believe the official account. I, personally, do not...
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Havent had time to read through all the posts, but wondering if this is a ff gone bad by the left or a ff gone as planed by nutty yahoo and the right.

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