Questions I Wish to Ask of Christians

Question #2. What part of you burns in this hell for all eternity?

First, go to maps.google.com


then........

I'll play. Hell is not a place that a living human being can see.

Hell is a hole in the ground...and the ghettos

None, your soul will be destroyed in the end, if you don't wish to be part of God's family.

The Bible says that God has the power to throw both body and soul in hell. At the end of time, I believe that all dead bodies, where the matching soul is in hell, will be thrown into hell so that both body and soul of the vessel of wrath will be in hell, together, for eternity.

Got anymore? Waiting.....

Signing off at 3PM CST today, so ask away while there's a little time...... tic toc tic toc...

hell is the questionary.

for someone who has a bunch of scripture quotes in the signature, you really do not read your Bible do you?

'Hell' is the Lake of Fire and it is behind the veil. Eternal torment is false Catholic doctrine that came from a mistranslation. The wicked, faithless, and rebellious will be thrown into the Lake of Fire and will die the second death and will be annihilated, their names and memory's wiped out forever.

doesn't matter, if it exists it must be someplace. Of course, google will id a lot of places that could be hell to live in.

Where is the lake of Fire behind the veil? while your definition of 2nd death is absolutely correct, where is this lake of fire? Can I ask how being thrown into it, would cause death of the soul? Which is what the 2nd death is, one no long exists.

And now a good question, for anyone using is, what is the veil? It is a real concept.

This is true and most do not understand that. It is that simple, some do not wish have eternal life and check out even after thousands of lives. The check out rate on this planet is rather high. Who can blame some of them...... this is a nasty place. Eternal life is CHOSEN, but with that choice comes responsibility to grow the soul/mind, and some people don't want to work at that, laziness.

Others are so hurt, they can't go on. And some are thugs who try to bypass all the rules. Many joined the Lucifer Rebellion for exactly that reason. Lucifer offered a "universe" of his making that tossed out all the rules of being responsible. It did not work well, he and buddies were given earth to experiment with that one, and see where we are now over 200,000 years of having the planet roll over to toss them off. 5 previous times they have brought this on themselves, because they refused to learn how nature and balance works, so the Mother rebalanced. The fact that the planet is tilted is proof of Unbalance. planets in balance do not tilt.

Why would the spirit world have a Lake of Fire? I will say here, Jesus taught no such thing. Taught the 2nd death, but not the lake of fire. Fire must exist someplace, where would it exist in the spirit world? And another question then, where is the spirit world? If you mean the astral realm, where could fire be in that? That could destroy the soul?

So here we go, how is the soul destroyed if it chooses against eternal life? And is there technology ON this planet that can harm the soul (hint hint, there is).

Ok based on posts here, where is the spirit world?

Death means one thing...SEPERATION... a SOUL seperated from GOD, the only way you do not exist is if GOD goes back in time and obliterates the soul from ever being born....

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The Synonymous Words
for "Hell", etc.
This Is Appendix 131 From The Companion Bible.

"Hell" is the English rendering of two different Greek words in the New Testament

The English word is from the Anglo-Saxon hel, Genitive case helle = a hidden place, from the Anglo-Saxon helan = to hide.

It is in the New Testament used as the translation of two Greek words :-

Gehenna. Greek geenna. This is the transliteration of the Hebrew Gai' Hinnom, that is to say the Valley of Hinnom or "the Valley" of [the sons of] Hinnom, where were the fires through which children were passed in the worship of Moloch.

In the Old Testament Tophet was the Hebrew word used, because it was a place in this valley.

In our Lord's day the idolatry had ceased, but the fires were still continually burning there for the destruction of the refuse of Jerusalem. Hence, geenna was used for the fires of destruction associated with the judgment of God. Sometimes, "geenna of fire". See 2Kings 23:10. Isaiah 30:33. Jeremiah 7:31, 32; 19:11-14.

Geenna occurs 12 times, and is always rendered "hell", videlicet Matthew 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33. Mark 9:43, 45, 47. Luke 12:5. James 3:6.

Hades. Greek hades, from a (privative) and idein, to see (Appendix 133. I. i); used by the Greeks for the unseen world.

The meaning which the Greeks put upon it does not concern us; nor have we anything to do with the imaginations of the heathen, or the traditions of Jews or Romanists, or the teachings of demons or evil spirits, or of any who still cling to them.

The Holy Spirit has used it as one of the "words pertaining to the earth", and in so doing has "purified" it, "as silver tried in a furnace" (see notes on Psalms 12:6). From this we learn that His own words "are pure", but words belonging to this earth have to be "purified".

The Old Testament is the fountain head of the Hebrew language. It has no literature behind it. But the case is entirely different with the Greek language. The Hebrew Sheol is a word Divine in its origin and usage. The Greek Hades is human in its origin and comes down to us laden with centuries of development, in which it has acquired new senses, meanings, and usages.

Seeing that the Holy Spirit has used it in Acts 2:27, 31 as His own equivalent of Sheol in Psalm 16:10, He has settled, once for all, the sense in which we are to understand it. The meaning He has given to Sheol in Psalms 16:10 is the one meaning we are to give it wherever it occurs in the New Testament, whether we transliterate it or translate it. We have no liberty to do otherwise, and must discard everything outside the Word of God.

The word occurs eleven times (Matthew 11:23; 16:18. Luke 10:15; 16:23. Acts 2:27, 31. 1Corinthians 15:55. Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13, 14); and is rendered "hell" in every passage except one, where it is rendered "grave" (1Corinthians 15:55, margin "hell").

In the Revised Version the word is always transliterated "Hades", except in 1Corinthians 15:55 (where "death" is substituted because of the reading, in all the texts, of thanate for hade), and in the American Revised Version also.

As Hades is the Divine Scriptural equivalent of Sheol, further light may be gained from Appendix 35, and a reference to the 65 passages there given. It may be well to note that while "Hades" is rendered "hell" in the New Testament (except once, where the rendering "the grave" could not be avoided), Sheol, its Hebrew equivalent, occurs 65 times, and is rendered "the grave" 31 times (or 54%); "hell" 31 times (4 times with margin "the grave", reducing it to 41.5%); and "pit" only 3 times (or 4.5 %).

"The grave", therefore, is obviously the best rendering, meaning the state of death (German sterbend, for which we have no English equivalent); not the act of dying, as an examination of all the occurrences of both words will show.

The rendering "pit" so evidently means "the grave" that it may at once be substituted for it (Numbers 16:30, 33. Job 17:16).

The rendering "the grave" (not "a grave", which is Hebrew keber or bor) exactly expresses the meaning of both Sheol and Hades. For, as to direction, it is always down: as to place, it is in the earth: as to relation, it is always in contrast with the state of the living (Deuteronomy 32:22-25 and 1Samuel 2:6-8); as to association, it is connected with mourning (Genesis 37:34, 35), sorrow (Genesis 42:38. 2Samuel 22:6. Psalms 18:5; 116:3), fright and terror (Numbers 16:27, 34), mourning (Isaiah 38:3, 10, 17, 18), silence (Psalms 6:5; 31:17. Ecclesiastes 9:10), no knowledge (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10), punishment (Numbers 16:29, 34. 1Kings 2:6, 9. Job 24:19. Psalms 9:17 (Revised Version = re-turned)), corruption (Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27, 31); as to duration, resurrection is the only exit from it (Psalms 16:11. Acts 2:27, 31; 13:33-37. 1Corinthians 15:55. Revelation 1:18; 20:5, 13, 14).

Tartaroo (occurs only in 2Peter 2:4) = to thrust down to Tartarus, Tartarus being a Greek word, not used elsewhere, or at all in the Septuagint. Homer describes it as subterranean (compare Deuteronomy 32:22, which may refer to this). The Homeric Tartarus is the prison of the Titans, or giants (compare Hebrew Rephaim, Appendix 25), who rebelled against Zeus.

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This is just my speculation of course - The part that is dark (evil, selfish, sinful, etc..) If there is no good at all in you then you are done.

Ok, some of you have done studies of the bible and history, do you have any idea when this lake of fire story appeared? It was not a teaching of Jesus. I can give some suggestions of things that would be seen as a lake of fire. Is the lake of fire in the OT?

Possible the stories passed down in the OT could be around the story of Sodom and Gomorrah which was destroyed by plasma beams, and which obviously at some point came the dead sea, or it was by the dead sea when it wasn't the dead sea. I suggest that as an idea, because of the story of Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt. there would have been HUGE burning from the destruction produced by the plasma beams, which also upset the land and put those burning cities into the lake on their shore line, now called the Dead Sea. That would have an appearance to the people of that time, to be a lake of fire. And the plasma beam, does destroy the soul. That is behind the story of so few there who found favor with God, primarily Lot and his family.

Also Sodom and Gomorrah had the use of oil and natural gas, which would spread over the water and further produce the lake of fire that thus got repeated in the stories and legends over time.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 10/26/2012 05:40 PM

hell is the absence of God and His Love..
A place without His Love

some say that too. Certainly the way we use "hell" on this world. However, where is this place without his love? For he is omnipresent, shit with the spelling, he is in everything and everywhere, so how can hell be the abnsence of his love? As my new user name says, God LOVES ALL, whether rejected or not.

I am asking to look at word use here. I assume you mean that hell is a condition in which a PERSON has rejected the love of God? There is no PLACE without his love.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 10/26/2012 05:43 PM

You already know the answer. It doesn't exist, plain and simple.

Hell is a lower dimension 'orb' where the evil people will end up after the dimensional transition. We cannot see it, we can only see 3rd Dim now. I imagine 'god' selects who goes or not, or perhaps it is just a karma read. There these people, in spirit form, will continually reflect on their life deeds. They will understand the problems they caused and feel the pain of their victims, over & over. They have to 'let go' and follow the light as we do, just like we have done in this lifetime. Only thru heartfelt capitulation can enlightenment be found. Do it now or later, the choice is yours.
If you don't ever make it your being will not ascend to higher dimensions and one day you will be left behind forever. That is bad.

How would god leave behind somebody forever? Thats a long time.

I imagine it is a matter of whether the individual chooses to enlighten himself. Heaven helps those who help themselves. It takes some personal effort to live in a higher dimension. So I would say if someone stays grounded in the material world eventually they will fall behind the evolutionary curve.
Given the fact 'oneness' is the final destination the collective would work for itself and assist those in need. Can everyone be helped? Can everyone evolve to a higher form? Hmmmmmm ...

This is a nice answer. Fact is, there are people who don't the effort for many reasons and do drop out so to speak. Or take the long slow route. Generally they are allowed their eternal life except should they reject it. But their eternal life will be spent reincarnating on slow worlds for as long as they wish that. the higher worlds absolutely MUST be earned. One step at a time, nobody passes until they pass a level by their efforts at it. Everyone CAN evolve to a higher form. its a case of WHEN. Thinking people can also de evolve and that is a major problem on this world and always is at the end of an age generally.

Ok based on poster I quoted, how does Heaven help those who help themselves? Its a wise concept.

Wow. You really aren't as dumb as you appear to be.