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What really happened in the Garden of Eden?

 
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What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
what I'm about to propose is going to be very touchy....I realize that this might make some people very angry with me but here goes

doesn't it make more sense that eve didn't actually eat apiece of fruit

the Bible states that the serpent had the ability to talk....it also states that it wasn't until after the transgression that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly ...thus he transformed into a snake

why is it that after they partook in the forbidden fruit that they knew they were naked and the cover up their genitales ?

why is that God said after the transgression that he would put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of humans ?

why is it that the bible say that Cain was the " Son of the evil one"

I believe that the serpent was an upright walking beast that had the ability to communicate with eve.....he beguiled her (which in some definitions means to seduce)

he had sexual relations with her ...she then went to Adam and convinced him to partake of the "forbidden fruit" and he did

she was impreganated by the serpent and also by Adam and she had twins

this is a medical phenomenon known to happen and here is proof

[link to www.foxnews.com]

why is it that Cain was born first but Abel recieved the birthright

after Cain killed Abel ....Seth replaced Abel in the linage and the linage went thruhim instead of Cain ....even tho Cain was firstborn

why is it that blood is required by God as a atonement for sin?.....because it was the mixing of the blood that caused the original sin

why did Jesus have to be virgin born...because he couldn't comenthru the sex act because the sex act was what caused the downfall of man and seperation from God.....the sacrifice that Jesus gave redeemed man back unto God

I believe that when the bible talks about the nephallim ....it was this

The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair and they went unto and bore children.....that the Sons of God were the ones thru Seth's lineage and the daughters of men were thru cains linage .....as a result the literal serpent seed was mingled with the righteous seed and ever since then it travelled thru the Righteouss lineage ....I believe that the serpent seed would pop up time to time in the righteous lineage

just like a family lineage can produce a redhead and there won't be another redhead born into that family for let's say .....a hundred years ...but a outnofthe blue ....a redhead child is born into a family of dark haired people

I believe that Esau was literall serpent seed...it layed dormant thru Abrahams linage and was manifested in Esau


I realize that most of you will call me blasphemous and other names but I tried to lay out what I believe while being sensitive

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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
Jesus was there !!!
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
You speak of the Naga.
But a lot of what else you say shows you may not have read the story very carefully.
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And your genetics argument is flawed.
Redheads show up when the milkman has red hair.
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
well as much sense as that might make,

i have a strong belief that everything in that book is true...

its just my personal experience...

so i would say that the tree is a literal tree,and the sin is disobeying God...

however i have never come to a logical conclusion of what that tree could have been and who was the serpent...

it is a book of mistery,but i would advise you to seek knowledge but do not try to take it forcibly...

some things just have to be given or they are not the same
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what I'm about to propose is going to be very touchy....I realize that this might make some people very angry with me but here goes

doesn't it make more sense that eve didn't actually eat apiece of fruit

the Bible states that the serpent had the ability to talk....it also states that it wasn't until after the transgression that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly ...thus he transformed into a snake

why is it that after they partook in the forbidden fruit that they knew they were naked and the cover up their genitales ?

why is that God said after the transgression that he would put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of humans ?

why is it that the bible say that Cain was the " Son of the evil one"

I believe that the serpent was an upright walking beast that had the ability to communicate with eve.....he beguiled her (which in some definitions means to seduce)

he had sexual relations with her ...she then went to Adam and convinced him to partake of the "forbidden fruit" and he did

she was impreganated by the serpent and also by Adam and she had twins

this is a medical phenomenon known to happen and here is proof

[link to www.foxnews.com]

why is it that Cain was born first but Abel recieved the birthright

after Cain killed Abel ....Seth replaced Abel in the linage and the linage went thruhim instead of Cain ....even tho Cain was firstborn

why is it that blood is required by God as a atonement for sin?.....because it was the mixing of the blood that caused the original sin

why did Jesus have to be virgin born...because he couldn't comenthru the sex act because the sex act was what caused the downfall of man and seperation from God.....the sacrifice that Jesus gave redeemed man back unto God

I believe that when the bible talks about the nephallim ....it was this

The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair and they went unto and bore children.....that the Sons of God were the ones thru Seth's lineage and the daughters of men were thru cains linage .....as a result the literal serpent seed was mingled with the righteous seed and ever since then it travelled thru the Righteouss lineage ....I believe that the serpent seed would pop up time to time in the righteous lineage

just like a family lineage can produce a redhead and there won't be another redhead born into that family for let's say .....a hundred years ...but a outnofthe blue ....a redhead child is born into a family of dark haired people

I believe that Esau was literall serpent seed...it layed dormant thru Abrahams linage and was manifested in Esau


I realize that most of you will call me blasphemous and other names but I tried to lay out what I believe while being sensitive
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and never cease to question my friend,as galileo said,
God wouldnt give us such minds if He expects us not to use it...
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
Eve knew that serpents did not speak, she should have went and got Adam...

very bad decision...

simple conversation.
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(Revelation 12:9)

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years
(Revelation 20:2)

The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him.

In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc.

You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction.
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
What really happened was that man sort to be like God and in searching for the boson he coincidently collapsed his paradigm.
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The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(Revelation 12:9)

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years
(Revelation 20:2)

The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him.

In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc.

You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction.
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and what about the tree,it is plainly said that God put the tree in the garden...

what was the tree and how did it give knowledge
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The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(Revelation 12:9)

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years
(Revelation 20:2)

The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him.

In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc.

You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction.
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thanks very much
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I have moss growing in the soil here and one part looks like jungle but it gets winter and the other starts to look like a den bush tree.
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
ive listened to theologicans and a couple of priests who say similar.

at least the real bible saying eve had sex with the snake (satan) and the apple story replaced that for better public consumption.
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read it all

[link to www.satansrapture.com]
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
The Planet was peopled by humans associated with the fallen angels when the aliens known as Adam and Eve landed in the garden of eden. After a short while the aloneness broke down the team and desperation set in. Eve went and had sex with one of the finest members of the fallen's children, and this produced a child, cain, and then Adam went and did the same. However this wasn't part of the rebelion as they were mislead through evil's intent by a demon spawn. This was about 38 thousand years ago in the lost history of this planet. It was a real story.
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Realy cool with those little gees heads on a stick out of a cactus fat plant.
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Thats mixed up , Like two storys.

Adam and eve covert themself in vig leaves is a different story then the devil boss saying do me for everyone.
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Thats mixed up , Like two storys.

Adam and eve covert themself in vig leaves is a different story then the devil boss saying do me for everyone.
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Blblh and some are inbetween or on a sidetrack...

And a&e supported life because they got it nice in the start and ...

And the dblblh sat in dirt while not doing the magic start sequence to make it nice but just wanted other things or more and more because he fell that way ?
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Thats mixed up , Like two storys.

Adam and eve covert themself in vig leaves is a different story then the devil boss saying do me for everyone.
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Blblh and some are inbetween or on a sidetrack...

And a&e supported life because they got it nice in the start and ...

And the dblblh sat in dirt while not doing the magic start sequence to make it nice but just wanted other things or more and more because he fell that way ?
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Yea , you got it.Kinda lol
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Ah little but i dont know the start , good luck with it -(:
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Bah orion in the winter night sky again ...
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Nothing ... NEXT! laugh
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The waterplanet is white again not orange.
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Oh its Jupiter it looks white.
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And the moon shines yellow green red trough the white clouds.
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It wasn't an apple tree. It was a cherry tree.
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Re: What really happened in the Garden of Eden?
See
both
the
trees
and
the
forest,
or
lose
the
view.


All
is
"Energy,"


As
such,
ultimately,
all
is
One.


God,
then
is
"omni-everything."

But,
He
is
also
in
need
of
"true"
company-companionship.

God,
being
(intellectually)
all
that
is,
any
creation
thereof,
would
be
robotic.

However,
there
is
one
way
to
compliment
the
situation
"truthfully,"
with
full
integrity.

According
to
science
(quantum
physics,
etc.)
the
whole,
is
but
the
accumulation
of
parts
(constitution
via
parts
to
the
sum.)

Therefore,
by
recognizing
the
parts
to
His
sum,
thereof,
God
could
in
essence
find
true
companionship
by
identifying
and
interacting
accordingly
(as
each
operate
in
different
capacities,
though
to
the
same
end.)

The
outgrowth
of
this,
is
the
creation
of
physicality,
by
way
of
spirit.

God,
being
a
thought-form,
aka
"spiritual,"
was
born
of
awareness,
from
which
evolved
consciousness/intelligence,
equating
to
an
eventual
entity,
of
holographical
nature
(containing
within
self,
the
whole
of
all)
capable
of
independent
being
via
an
individual
signature-
a
true
and
full
entity
of
complete
ways
and
means.
As
such,
an
"observer."

The
balance
being,
"the
observed."

By
default,
"the
observed"
energy,
being
un-improved
[not
assigned
a
signature
of
being,
as
is
an
entity
or
like]
is
susceptible
to
being
acted
upon,
from
which
manifestations
may
be
created
thereof,
thus
producing
secondary,
subservient-complimentary
energy-form
(s)
[anything,
less
an
entity,
environments,
surroundings,
plants,
beast-like
beings,
etc.

Activation
of
this
sort,
of
course,
sets
into
motion,
the
evolution
of
inanimate
energy
toward
animate
energy..........
evolution/experience,
etc.
eventually
equates
to
full-blown,
entity
status
being.]

Point
being;
Primordial
Period,
ended
when
static
state
sponsored,
divided
and
separated
into
a
complimentary,
secondary
state
of
dynamics,
in
order
to
accommodate
the
duality
of
sum
to
part
&
part
to
sum
action
[so,
that
God
could
enjoy
companionship
and
so
that
energy
could
continually
create
and
express
itself,
toward
perfection.]

Thus,
the
"observer"
and
the
"observed"
components,
were
set
into
place,
with
Adam
and
Eve,
in
the
Garden
of
Eden.

The
plan,
which
for
eons
had
been
in
theory-form,
(in
the
Spiritual
Plane)
was
finally
being
put
into
motion
(in
the
Material
World.)

[Michael
Newton,
PH.D.'s
research,
see
"Journey
of
Souls,"
&
"Destiny
of
Souls,"
verify/validate
this.]

The
script's
written,
the
roles
cast,
the
stage
set................"ACTION!"

The
act
of
being,
creates
information,
to
fuel
the
system
of
life/living.

It
also,
allows
God
company.

God
is
the
Sum
&
we
are
the
parts,
thereof
(souls.)

Both
"Sum"
&
"Parts"
are
ONE
&
Individual.
We
endeavour
toward
system
and
self
interests.

As
Parts,
acting
in
unison,
we
constitute
the
"office
of
God."

And,
in
the
capacity
of
God,
we
are
begotten,
thereof.

Motto
being:
All
for
One
&
One
for
all!


The
"story-line"
of
life,
acts
on
polarity
(knowing
something
by
knowing
it's
opposite-equal)
hence,
the
36
plots,
reveal,
hide
and
basically,
run
the
gambit
of
everything
that
is,
so
as
to
allow
the
Parts
to
learn
what
the
Sum
already
knows
(the
Sum
appreciates
the
outcome
by
knowing
the
process.
The
Parts
appreciate
the
process
by
knowing
the
outcome.)

God,
Satan,
Adam
&
Eve,
in
the
Garden
of
Eden,
were
simply
starting
the
play
to
which
we
will
all
belong...........in
our
own
time.

Remember,
words
front
meanings.
Look
for
motivations
in
lieu
of
the
actions,
thereof.

peace

[Sorry
for
the
goofy
type-set,
my
keyboard
is
acting
up.]


T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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short version> metaphor of a women's womb,adam and eve is the combined spirit forming into a physical baby..the snake is free will that the spirit listens to and the baby with free will is expelled from paradise/womb and then develops cain/desire and abel/humility but cain kills abel and desire rules the baby...etc etc
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The Planet was peopled by humans associated with the fallen angels when the aliens known as Adam and Eve landed in the garden of eden. After a short while the aloneness broke down the team and desperation set in. Eve went and had sex with one of the finest members of the fallen's children, and this produced a child, cain, and then Adam went and did the same. However this wasn't part of the rebelion as they were mislead through evil's intent by a demon spawn. This was about 38 thousand years ago in the lost history of this planet. It was a real story.
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lmao,see my previous post..the bible is metaphors...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The historic garden of eden is under
the persian gulf south of the Faw peninsula
of Iraq and east of Kuwait City.

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