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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26386857 Croatia 10/27/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have a strong belief that everything in that book is true... its just my personal experience... so i would say that the tree is a literal tree,and the sin is disobeying God... however i have never come to a logical conclusion of what that tree could have been and who was the serpent... it is a book of mistery,but i would advise you to seek knowledge but do not try to take it forcibly... some things just have to be given or they are not the same |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26386857 Croatia 10/27/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what I'm about to propose is going to be very touchy....I realize that this might make some people very angry with me but here goes Quoting: Simple_Man doesn't it make more sense that eve didn't actually eat apiece of fruit the Bible states that the serpent had the ability to talk....it also states that it wasn't until after the transgression that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly ...thus he transformed into a snake why is it that after they partook in the forbidden fruit that they knew they were naked and the cover up their genitales ? why is that God said after the transgression that he would put enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of humans ? why is it that the bible say that Cain was the " Son of the evil one" I believe that the serpent was an upright walking beast that had the ability to communicate with eve.....he beguiled her (which in some definitions means to seduce) he had sexual relations with her ...she then went to Adam and convinced him to partake of the "forbidden fruit" and he did she was impreganated by the serpent and also by Adam and she had twins this is a medical phenomenon known to happen and here is proof [link to www.foxnews.com] why is it that Cain was born first but Abel recieved the birthright after Cain killed Abel ....Seth replaced Abel in the linage and the linage went thruhim instead of Cain ....even tho Cain was firstborn why is it that blood is required by God as a atonement for sin?.....because it was the mixing of the blood that caused the original sin why did Jesus have to be virgin born...because he couldn't comenthru the sex act because the sex act was what caused the downfall of man and seperation from God.....the sacrifice that Jesus gave redeemed man back unto God I believe that when the bible talks about the nephallim ....it was this The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair and they went unto and bore children.....that the Sons of God were the ones thru Seth's lineage and the daughters of men were thru cains linage .....as a result the literal serpent seed was mingled with the righteous seed and ever since then it travelled thru the Righteouss lineage ....I believe that the serpent seed would pop up time to time in the righteous lineage just like a family lineage can produce a redhead and there won't be another redhead born into that family for let's say .....a hundred years ...but a outnofthe blue ....a redhead child is born into a family of dark haired people I believe that Esau was literall serpent seed...it layed dormant thru Abrahams linage and was manifested in Esau I realize that most of you will call me blasphemous and other names but I tried to lay out what I believe while being sensitive and never cease to question my friend,as galileo said, God wouldnt give us such minds if He expects us not to use it... |
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THE TRUTH User ID: 24808382 United States 10/27/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years (Revelation 20:2) The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him. In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc. You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26386857 Croatia 10/27/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years (Revelation 20:2) The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him. In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc. You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction. and what about the tree,it is plainly said that God put the tree in the garden... what was the tree and how did it give knowledge |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26386857 Croatia 10/27/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "serpent" in the Garden of Eden was Satan Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years (Revelation 20:2) The enemy in the Garden of Eden was not a literal serpent... the name serpent was a symbolic name given to the Devil; just as "The Dragon", "Satan", and many other descriptive names were given to him. In the Bible, people and angels are given names that represent their character, this occurred many times in the scriptures. Jacob (which means traitor or back-stabber) was changed to Israel (which means "one who prevails with God" after he repented of his wicked ways. Additionally, Abram became Abraham, Saul became Paul, Simon became Peter, etc. You also referenced the term where God (actually Jesus) condemned the serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust all his life... this is a prophecy of the Devil being eventually cast out of Heaven onto the Earth where he is trapped until the day of his destruction. thanks very much |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26419617 Netherlands 10/27/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats mixed up , Like two storys. Adam and eve covert themself in vig leaves is a different story then the devil boss saying do me for everyone. Blblh and some are inbetween or on a sidetrack... And a&e supported life because they got it nice in the start and ... And the dblblh sat in dirt while not doing the magic start sequence to make it nice but just wanted other things or more and more because he fell that way ? |
steeler User ID: 1568805 United States 10/27/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats mixed up , Like two storys. Adam and eve covert themself in vig leaves is a different story then the devil boss saying do me for everyone. Blblh and some are inbetween or on a sidetrack... And a&e supported life because they got it nice in the start and ... And the dblblh sat in dirt while not doing the magic start sequence to make it nice but just wanted other things or more and more because he fell that way ? Yea , you got it.Kinda lol viking** |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23993928 United States 10/27/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See both the trees and the forest, or lose the view. All is "Energy," As such, ultimately, all is One. God, then is "omni-everything." But, He is also in need of "true" company-companionship. God, being (intellectually) all that is, any creation thereof, would be robotic. However, there is one way to compliment the situation "truthfully," with full integrity. According to science (quantum physics, etc.) the whole, is but the accumulation of parts (constitution via parts to the sum.) Therefore, by recognizing the parts to His sum, thereof, God could in essence find true companionship by identifying and interacting accordingly (as each operate in different capacities, though to the same end.) The outgrowth of this, is the creation of physicality, by way of spirit. God, being a thought-form, aka "spiritual," was born of awareness, from which evolved consciousness/intelligence, equating to an eventual entity, of holographical nature (containing within self, the whole of all) capable of independent being via an individual signature- a true and full entity of complete ways and means. As such, an "observer." The balance being, "the observed." By default, "the observed" energy, being un-improved [not assigned a signature of being, as is an entity or like] is susceptible to being acted upon, from which manifestations may be created thereof, thus producing secondary, subservient-complimentary energy-form (s) [anything, less an entity, environments, surroundings, plants, beast-like beings, etc. Activation of this sort, of course, sets into motion, the evolution of inanimate energy toward animate energy.......... evolution/experience, etc. eventually equates to full-blown, entity status being.] Point being; Primordial Period, ended when static state sponsored, divided and separated into a complimentary, secondary state of dynamics, in order to accommodate the duality of sum to part & part to sum action [so, that God could enjoy companionship and so that energy could continually create and express itself, toward perfection.] Thus, the "observer" and the "observed" components, were set into place, with Adam and Eve, in the Garden of Eden. The plan, which for eons had been in theory-form, (in the Spiritual Plane) was finally being put into motion (in the Material World.) [Michael Newton, PH.D.'s research, see "Journey of Souls," & "Destiny of Souls," verify/validate this.] The script's written, the roles cast, the stage set................"ACTION!" The act of being, creates information, to fuel the system of life/living. It also, allows God company. God is the Sum & we are the parts, thereof (souls.) Both "Sum" & "Parts" are ONE & Individual. We endeavour toward system and self interests. As Parts, acting in unison, we constitute the "office of God." And, in the capacity of God, we are begotten, thereof. Motto being: All for One & One for all! The "story-line" of life, acts on polarity (knowing something by knowing it's opposite-equal) hence, the 36 plots, reveal, hide and basically, run the gambit of everything that is, so as to allow the Parts to learn what the Sum already knows (the Sum appreciates the outcome by knowing the process. The Parts appreciate the process by knowing the outcome.) God, Satan, Adam & Eve, in the Garden of Eden, were simply starting the play to which we will all belong...........in our own time. Remember, words front meanings. Look for motivations in lieu of the actions, thereof. [Sorry for the goofy type-set, my keyboard is acting up.] |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 25547107 United States 10/27/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | short version> metaphor of a women's womb,adam and eve is the combined spirit forming into a physical baby..the snake is free will that the spirit listens to and the baby with free will is expelled from paradise/womb and then develops cain/desire and abel/humility but cain kills abel and desire rules the baby...etc etc How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 25547107 United States 10/27/2012 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Planet was peopled by humans associated with the fallen angels when the aliens known as Adam and Eve landed in the garden of eden. After a short while the aloneness broke down the team and desperation set in. Eve went and had sex with one of the finest members of the fallen's children, and this produced a child, cain, and then Adam went and did the same. However this wasn't part of the rebelion as they were mislead through evil's intent by a demon spawn. This was about 38 thousand years ago in the lost history of this planet. It was a real story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968 How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
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