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Veresanctus (OP)

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OP you are not Jesus.
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I never said I was, I'm only one His representatives
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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If what your saying is true then why post dates knowing the bible stated, " NO MAN KNOWS THE DATE OR TIME" Jesus Christ himself did not know the date and time while on earth.
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I never gave a day or even hour for the return of Christ

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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My concept of God is Love, who is also true and righteous. Yours is different?

My God loves me so much that he sacrificed His own Son in order to save me from myself.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It is much, much different. I have experienced the nature of the mysteries.

You think that by telepathically giving allegience to someone so you can "save you from yourself" is in any way helpful? You need to evolve. To become better than this low density form and your attachments.

You have been stripped of your power through your own ignorance. You don't know your origin.

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My concept of God is Love, who is also true and righteous. Yours is different?

My God loves me so much that he sacrificed His own Son in order to save me from myself.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It is much, much different. I have experienced the nature of the mysteries.

You think that by telepathically giving allegience to someone so you can "save you from yourself" is in any way helpful? You need to evolve. To become better than this low density form and your attachments.

You have been stripped of your power through your own ignorance. You don't know your origin.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Your mind has been twisted, straighten it out by seeking the truth and reading it in the holy bible.

Your belief appears to be a multilayered deception.

Click the link in my signature and read it.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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My concept of God is Love, who is also true and righteous. Yours is different?

My God loves me so much that he sacrificed His own Son in order to save me from myself.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It is much, much different. I have experienced the nature of the mysteries.

You think that by telepathically giving allegience to someone so you can "save you from yourself" is in any way helpful? You need to evolve. To become better than this low density form and your attachments.

You have been stripped of your power through your own ignorance. You don't know your origin.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Your mind has been twisted, straighten it out by seeking the truth and reading it in the holy bible.

Your belief appears to be a multilayered deception.

Click the link in my signature and read it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Yours is twisted and programmed.

Just. Let. Go.

Know your origin. You go by faith, I go by knowledge. You have no idea.

You are darth vader.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 10/28/2012 10:26 PM
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My concept of God is Love, who is also true and righteous. Yours is different?

My God loves me so much that he sacrificed His own Son in order to save me from myself.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


It is much, much different. I have experienced the nature of the mysteries.

You think that by telepathically giving allegience to someone so you can "save you from yourself" is in any way helpful? You need to evolve. To become better than this low density form and your attachments.

You have been stripped of your power through your own ignorance. You don't know your origin.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Your mind has been twisted, straighten it out by seeking the truth and reading it in the holy bible.

Your belief appears to be a multilayered deception.

Click the link in my signature and read it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Yours is twisted and programmed.

Just. Let. Go.

Know your origin. You go by faith, I go by knowledge. You have no idea.

You are darth vader.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Darth Vader was evil, because he chose power (knowledge) instead of love (faith).
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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It is much, much different. I have experienced the nature of the mysteries.

You think that by telepathically giving allegience to someone so you can "save you from yourself" is in any way helpful? You need to evolve. To become better than this low density form and your attachments.

You have been stripped of your power through your own ignorance. You don't know your origin.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Your mind has been twisted, straighten it out by seeking the truth and reading it in the holy bible.

Your belief appears to be a multilayered deception.

Click the link in my signature and read it.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Yours is twisted and programmed.

Just. Let. Go.

Know your origin. You go by faith, I go by knowledge. You have no idea.

You are darth vader.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Darth Vader was evil, because he chose power (knowledge) instead of love (faith).
 Quoting: Veresanctus


No he was evil because he combined the machine (religion) with his self (spirit).

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 10/28/2012 10:34 PM
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Sin is not, save in the darkness of Her womb by whom evil came.
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Sin is not, save in the darkness of Her womb by whom evil came.
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Great, more riddles. If you look at my previous posts, you would see that I'm not really good at this. Can you explain please?
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Thank You OP.... You are now shareing your light.. Now the truth's you speak will either heard or dismissed as it should be... Have a good evening.
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Sin is not, save in the darkness of Her womb by whom evil came.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Great, more riddles. If you look at my previous posts, you would see that I'm not really good at this. Can you explain please?
 Quoting: Rising Son


If you had a good background in Gnostic knowledge, you'll see. Read the Nag Hammadi texts.

I'm not going to spell it out for everyone. If you're lazy, then stay lazy. Nature will take care of you.
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Thank You OP.... You are now shareing your light.. Now the truth's you speak will either heard or dismissed as it should be... Have a good evening.
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crazyjak

You can't be serious. Open your eyes. Follow the thread. He has yet to respond to me.
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OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Sin is not, save in the darkness of Her womb by whom evil came.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Great, more riddles. If you look at my previous posts, you would see that I'm not really good at this. Can you explain please?
 Quoting: Rising Son


If you had a good background in Gnostic knowledge, you'll see. Read the Nag Hammadi texts.

I'm not going to spell it out for everyone. If you're lazy, then stay lazy. Nature will take care of you.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Well that wasn't very considerate or mature. Simply because I believe something else and I am not familiar with Gnosticism, you assume I am lazy? Sounds like you are the one with the skewed perception.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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Well that wasn't very considerate or mature. Simply because I believe something else and I am not familiar with Gnosticism, you assume I am lazy? Sounds like you are the one with the skewed perception.
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Mature. That's funny. Just wait until you enter the next dimension; everyone will be annoyed at you and you will call them out as being "immature".

I don't assume anything. I just point you in the right direction. You know how to use google.
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Well that wasn't very considerate or mature. Simply because I believe something else and I am not familiar with Gnosticism, you assume I am lazy? Sounds like you are the one with the skewed perception.
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Mature. That's funny. Just wait until you enter the next dimension; everyone will be annoyed at you and you will call them out as being "immature".

I don't assume anything. I just point you in the right direction. You know how to use google.
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You are wrong, you assume you know it all. I have an open mind, which means I can take what you say to me without emotion and analyze it. Based on my experiences with people, you appear to be resentful, defensive, and arrogant concerning your beliefs. BTW - there is more to life than google...
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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Well that wasn't very considerate or mature. Simply because I believe something else and I am not familiar with Gnosticism, you assume I am lazy? Sounds like you are the one with the skewed perception.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Mature. That's funny. Just wait until you enter the next dimension; everyone will be annoyed at you and you will call them out as being "immature".

I don't assume anything. I just point you in the right direction. You know how to use google.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You are wrong, you assume you know it all. I have an open mind, which means I can take what you say to me without emotion and analyze it. Based on my experiences with people, you appear to be resentful, defensive, and arrogant concerning your beliefs. BTW - there is more to life than google...
 Quoting: Rising Son


I don't know anything. My life has taken me on certain paths, and when people tell me the sky is blue; I associate that with blue.

I am only interested with people opening their eyes. If you construe that as being "defensive"; then you are projecting your own issues unto me. I am not defensive in any sense of the word.

I am resentful, however, in every sense of this word. I am resentful of the veil over your eyes.

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Well that wasn't very considerate or mature. Simply because I believe something else and I am not familiar with Gnosticism, you assume I am lazy? Sounds like you are the one with the skewed perception.
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Mature. That's funny. Just wait until you enter the next dimension; everyone will be annoyed at you and you will call them out as being "immature".

I don't assume anything. I just point you in the right direction. You know how to use google.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You are wrong, you assume you know it all. I have an open mind, which means I can take what you say to me without emotion and analyze it. Based on my experiences with people, you appear to be resentful, defensive, and arrogant concerning your beliefs. BTW - there is more to life than google...
 Quoting: Rising Son


I don't know anything. My life has taken me on certain paths, and when people tell me the sky is blue; I associate that with blue.

I am only interested with people opening their eyes. If you construe that as being "defensive"; then you are projecting your own issues unto me. I am not defensive in any sense of the word.

I am resentful, however, in any sense of this word. I am resentful of the veil over your eyes.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Based on the logic of your belief system, you believe what I tell you and I am telling you that I do not have a veil over my eyes. However, I don't think you really believe what you are saying, because to assume I have a veil over my eyes is to claim to know something I don't know.
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Based on the logic of your belief system, you believe what I tell you and I am telling you that I do not have a veil over my eyes. However, I don't think you really believe what you are saying, because to assume I have a veil over my eyes is to claim to know something I don't know.
 Quoting: Rising Son


This is a very typical case of projection.

Look at yourself before you look at others.
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Based on the logic of your belief system, you believe what I tell you and I am telling you that I do not have a veil over my eyes. However, I don't think you really believe what you are saying, because to assume I have a veil over my eyes is to claim to know something I don't know.
 Quoting: Rising Son


This is a very typical case of projection.

Look at yourself before you look at others.
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You continue to assume, this time assuming I have not looked at myself and that I am incapable of showing empathy or relating to you.
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Based on the logic of your belief system, you believe what I tell you and I am telling you that I do not have a veil over my eyes. However, I don't think you really believe what you are saying, because to assume I have a veil over my eyes is to claim to know something I don't know.
 Quoting: Rising Son


This is a very typical case of projection.

Look at yourself before you look at others.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You continue to assume, this time assuming I have not looked at myself and that I am incapable of showing empathy or relating to you.
 Quoting: Rising Son


And of course you assume your various things about me as well.

Let it be. Letting go is, for lack of a better word, ecstacy.
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Based on the logic of your belief system, you believe what I tell you and I am telling you that I do not have a veil over my eyes. However, I don't think you really believe what you are saying, because to assume I have a veil over my eyes is to claim to know something I don't know.
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This is a very typical case of projection.

Look at yourself before you look at others.
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You continue to assume, this time assuming I have not looked at myself and that I am incapable of showing empathy or relating to you.
 Quoting: Rising Son


And of course you assume your various things about me as well.

Let it be. Letting go is, for lack of a better word, ecstacy.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I try my best not to assume anything about anyone, until they prove me complacent or indifferent for doing so. Can we be friends now?
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This is a very typical case of projection.

Look at yourself before you look at others.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You continue to assume, this time assuming I have not looked at myself and that I am incapable of showing empathy or relating to you.
 Quoting: Rising Son


And of course you assume your various things about me as well.

Let it be. Letting go is, for lack of a better word, ecstacy.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I try my best not to assume anything about anyone, until they prove me complacent or indifferent for doing so. Can we be friends now?
 Quoting: Rising Son


I would love to be frends with you :)
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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10/29/2012 12:38 AM

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You continue to assume, this time assuming I have not looked at myself and that I am incapable of showing empathy or relating to you.
 Quoting: Rising Son


And of course you assume your various things about me as well.

Let it be. Letting go is, for lack of a better word, ecstacy.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I try my best not to assume anything about anyone, until they prove me complacent or indifferent for doing so. Can we be friends now?
 Quoting: Rising Son


I would love to be frends with you :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


hf
Thank you for talking with me.
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from now on you shall be known as..... Lord Riddler

rise my friend.

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-1 + 3

One will go, and 3 will be.
Its about the moon i see.
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If what your saying is true then why post dates knowing the bible stated, " NO MAN KNOWS THE DATE OR TIME" Jesus Christ himself did not know the date and time while on earth.
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I never gave a day or even hour for the return of Christ
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Look at the header of this thread for your awnser. You did and are posting a date.
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


I never said I don't want to avoid sin. Trying to avoid sin and do things according to God's will is a good thing. The difference would be that to put your faith in your works and ability to not sin would never save you, as apposed to putting your faith in Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God who died for your sins and rose again.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


I never said I don't want to avoid sin. Trying to avoid sin and do things according to God's will is a good thing. The difference would be that to put your faith in your works and ability to not sin would never save you, as apposed to putting your faith in Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God who died for your sins and rose again.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I think we are essentially saying the same thing here. I understand we are imperfect beings striving to be better, but I believe salvation comes from a combination of faith in both God and Jesus Christ, as well as our struggle to avoid sin and do good works. I look at what Jesus did as an example for all of us to follow. I think it becomes dangerous to tell people that as long as they believe in Jesus Christ, they will be saved. You must define that belief, as in to believe in Jesus Christ is to emulate Him.

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"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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Regardless if you believe you are saved by faith alone or by repentance of your sins, why would you not want to please your heavenly Father by trying your best to avoid sin and ask His forgiveness when you do? I love my Father and I do not want to displease Him.

As far as I am concerned, I consider Jesus Christ my brother, just as I refer to you all as my siblings, since we were both created by God.
 Quoting: Rising Son


OP, I am curious to hear what you think of what I wrote above. Do you agree or disagree? Does it depend on something else? Please tell me what you think - this is a question that I have tried to answer for a very long time and I would like to hear your take on it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


I never said I don't want to avoid sin. Trying to avoid sin and do things according to God's will is a good thing. The difference would be that to put your faith in your works and ability to not sin would never save you, as apposed to putting your faith in Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God who died for your sins and rose again.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


I think we are essentially saying the same thing here. I understand we are imperfect beings striving to be better, but I believe salvation comes from a combination of faith in both God and Jesus Christ, as well as our struggle to avoid sin and do good works. I look at what Jesus did as an example for all of us to follow. I think it becomes dangerous to tell people that as long as they believe in Jesus Christ, they will be saved. You must define that belief, as in to believe in Jesus Christ is to emulate Him.
 Quoting: Rising Son


There is no way for an imperfect man to save himself by trying to be perfect. Only Jesus was perfect and sinless in all his ways.

We all fail and make mistakes, so because of that we are in need of a savior to save us from our own fallen nature.

If you trust in yourself for your own salvation then when the day of judgement comes and you tell God "I followed your laws" He will say that even though you followed some you broke some and in so being are a law breaker and if you've broken one you've broken them all.

The bible says "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
(Eph 2:8 KJV)

Do you not think trying to earn a gift is to offend the giver?

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26