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45+ Aftershocks From Yesterday's 7.7 EQ in Canada, Multiple 5 and 6-pointers Continue to Hit The Area, Eerily Reminiscent of Honshu EQ

 
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I replied to your question about the PNSN graph you asked about, I'm thinking weather event. No other graphs in the area that usually show activity are showing this type activity and the unit you pointed to is at the mouth of a shipping lane....

Radio interference, weather....
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I replied to your question about the PNSN graph you asked about, I'm thinking weather event. No other graphs in the area that usually show activity are showing this type activity and the unit you pointed to is at the mouth of a shipping lane....

Radio interference, weather....
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Correct, you did. I was replying to OTF.
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I replied to your question about the PNSN graph you asked about, I'm thinking weather event. No other graphs in the area that usually show activity are showing this type activity and the unit you pointed to is at the mouth of a shipping lane....

Radio interference, weather....
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Correct, you did. I was replying to OTF.
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Found another Gem of data, or lacking of it.

Previously in a post I did within this thread, I claimed to have found a gem. I posted a direct link to the Gem and pointed out all the tremors and slips that occurred on the day of the 7.7M. within the states of Oregon & Washington.

You may have seen it, it was very revealing as to what slipped. Well I have a conspiracy at this point.

THE DATA IS GONE.

The link I post right now will show the data is gone for all of Or & Wash. Where did the slip data go?.... 689 plot points within Or & Wa.

I screen captured the data on my iPad Device. I atleast have proof of what we saw compared to what they are now showing for the last 3 days.

[link to www.pnsn.org]

Anyone care to explain?, give a best guess?
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I replied to your question about the PNSN graph you asked about, I'm thinking weather event. No other graphs in the area that usually show activity are showing this type activity and the unit you pointed to is at the mouth of a shipping lane....

Radio interference, weather....
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Correct, you did. I was replying to OTF.
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Found another Gem of data, or lacking of it.

Previously in a post I did within this thread, I claimed to have found a gem. I posted a direct link to the Gem and pointed out all the tremors and slips that occurred on the day of the 7.7M. within the states of Oregon & Washington.

You may have seen it, it was very revealing as to what slipped. Well I have a conspiracy at this point.

THE DATA IS GONE.

The link I post right now will show the data is gone for all of Or & Wash. Where did the slip data go?.... 689 plot points within Or & Wa.

I screen captured the data on my iPad Device. I atleast have proof of what we saw compared to what they are now showing for the last 3 days.

[link to www.pnsn.org]

Anyone care to explain?, give a best guess?
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It was a gem. 0 hours, 0 epicenters? IIRC, there were 663 epicenters when I looked. Found this on that site:

"Recent Activity?
The apparent widespread tremor distribution following the recent earthquake is mostly artificial. The tremor epicenters in northern Cal are real, but the rest of it is the result of the computer mistaking all the rattling from aftershocks with tremor. This kind of thing happens with automated algorithms when you don't really have a dedicated analyst to verify things. I'm working on removing the artifacts; so if you see dots disappear, that's why.

- Aaron Wech"

Sounds like the vanishing earthquakes of the USGS. BTW, you won't see hundreds of earthquakes on the USGS public feed from the Haida Gwaii area, nor are hundreds showing on the Canadian feed. However, the mark is at least over a hundred, given that small aftershocks have been reported occurring every few minutes...

Artificial, or inconvenient. IMO, it would be strange not to see any movement in adjacent fault lines. But zero?
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Tremor vs. earthquake:

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@Redman: Curious choice of word, "artificial".
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I replied to your question about the PNSN graph you asked about, I'm thinking weather event. No other graphs in the area that usually show activity are showing this type activity and the unit you pointed to is at the mouth of a shipping lane....

Radio interference, weather....
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Correct, you did. I was replying to OTF.
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Found another Gem of data, or lacking of it.

Previously in a post I did within this thread, I claimed to have found a gem. I posted a direct link to the Gem and pointed out all the tremors and slips that occurred on the day of the 7.7M. within the states of Oregon & Washington.

You may have seen it, it was very revealing as to what slipped. Well I have a conspiracy at this point.

THE DATA IS GONE.

The link I post right now will show the data is gone for all of Or & Wash. Where did the slip data go?.... 689 plot points within Or & Wa.

I screen captured the data on my iPad Device. I atleast have proof of what we saw compared to what they are now showing for the last 3 days.

[link to www.pnsn.org]

Anyone care to explain?, give a best guess?
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It was a gem. 0 hours, 0 epicenters? IIRC, there were 663 epicenters when I looked. Found this on that site:

"Recent Activity?
The apparent widespread tremor distribution following the recent earthquake is mostly artificial. The tremor epicenters in northern Cal are real, but the rest of it is the result of the computer mistaking all the rattling from aftershocks with tremor. This kind of thing happens with automated algorithms when you don't really have a dedicated analyst to verify things. I'm working on removing the artifacts; so if you see dots disappear, that's why.

- Aaron Wech"

Sounds like the vanishing earthquakes of the USGS. BTW, you won't see hundreds of earthquakes on the USGS public feed from the Haida Gwaii area, nor are hundreds showing on the Canadian feed. However, the mark is at least over a hundred, given that small aftershocks have been reported occurring every few minutes...

Artificial, or inconvenient. IMO, it would be strange not to see any movement in adjacent fault lines. But zero?
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I call Bullshit. The data plots are there to show where the earth moved from this quake, before, during, and after. Every single data plot for Seattle is gone?.

I think the gem showed too much information and they can't have this information released because it truly shows where and what will be affected during a long duration event close to the Puget Sound Region.

How can Aaron Wecht claim that the No. California data is accurate ( which clearly is not hydrothermals related, and he won't speculate what the cause is) and showed a significant increase in seismicity on that day....and claim the rest is all bogus?

I call bullshit. He may think his Wecht-to-meter grants him immunity from questions like some god, but the minions who have been on this p,anet a few decades longer than him know he's cornered and don't buy the BS.

I'm curious as to what his explanation of the long duration shaking and repeated large quakes ( not tremors, according to your link they appear only before a quake, not after) we have in the Charlotte region is ?

USGS scrubs data, I expected more from PNSN. I'm making a few calls to donors and granting agencies to question his actions.
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Correct, you did. I was replying to OTF.
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Found another Gem of data, or lacking of it.

Previously in a post I did within this thread, I claimed to have found a gem. I posted a direct link to the Gem and pointed out all the tremors and slips that occurred on the day of the 7.7M. within the states of Oregon & Washington.

You may have seen it, it was very revealing as to what slipped. Well I have a conspiracy at this point.

THE DATA IS GONE.

The link I post right now will show the data is gone for all of Or & Wash. Where did the slip data go?.... 689 plot points within Or & Wa.

I screen captured the data on my iPad Device. I atleast have proof of what we saw compared to what they are now showing for the last 3 days.

[link to www.pnsn.org]

Anyone care to explain?, give a best guess?
 Quoting: Redpaw360


It was a gem. 0 hours, 0 epicenters? IIRC, there were 663 epicenters when I looked. Found this on that site:

"Recent Activity?
The apparent widespread tremor distribution following the recent earthquake is mostly artificial. The tremor epicenters in northern Cal are real, but the rest of it is the result of the computer mistaking all the rattling from aftershocks with tremor. This kind of thing happens with automated algorithms when you don't really have a dedicated analyst to verify things. I'm working on removing the artifacts; so if you see dots disappear, that's why.

- Aaron Wech"

Sounds like the vanishing earthquakes of the USGS. BTW, you won't see hundreds of earthquakes on the USGS public feed from the Haida Gwaii area, nor are hundreds showing on the Canadian feed. However, the mark is at least over a hundred, given that small aftershocks have been reported occurring every few minutes...

Artificial, or inconvenient. IMO, it would be strange not to see any movement in adjacent fault lines. But zero?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11634244


I call Bullshit. The data plots are there to show where the earth moved from this quake, before, during, and after. Every single data plot for Seattle is gone?.

I think the gem showed too much information and they can't have this information released because it truly shows where and what will be affected during a long duration event close to the Puget Sound Region.

How can Aaron Wecht claim that the No. California data is accurate ( which clearly is not hydrothermals related, and he won't speculate what the cause is) and showed a significant increase in seismicity on that day....and claim the rest is all bogus?

I call bullshit. He may think his Wecht-to-meter grants him immunity from questions like some god, but the minions who have been on this p,anet a few decades longer than him know he's cornered and don't buy the BS.

I'm curious as to what his explanation of the long duration shaking and repeated large quakes ( not tremors, according to your link they appear only before a quake, not after) we have in the Charlotte region is ?

USGS scrubs data, I expected more from PNSN. I'm making a few calls to donors and granting agencies to question his actions.
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Why doesn't the Wechtometer and its $$$ want us to know what's shakin' along the Cascadia Subduction Zone?

Artificial earthquakes. At least they're saying it out loud.
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Look what's 180 km west of Haida Gwaii:

[link to www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]

I'm not sure if this is the location where the iron was dumped into the ocean, west of Haida Gwaii. It would be helpful to know the exact location.
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Look what's 180 km west of Haida Gwaii:

[link to www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]

I'm not sure if this is the location where the iron was dumped into the ocean, west of Haida Gwaii. It would be helpful to know the exact location.
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I liked that link, a great read. I particularly noticed the volcanic seamount rising so close to the surface. So now I have to wonder a few more questions.

In the Japan quake, it was shown by GPS that Japan moved approx. 8'....and with that being known, I wonder if the Haida Gwaii moved?, it is still shaking there just like Japan did .

...and

I wonder if the seamount is now closer to the surface or same?. I understand the quake was an oblique thrust strike slip and that means one side or the other had to have risen. "thrust" is to rise or sink.

Back in a few hours, have info tracking down. Aaron's personal website contradicts what he claims as null and void for the data plots.

What's really going on?, I don't know, but I love a good hunt.
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.....and another gem. This one reveals a lot about what they scrub. I'll pick this apart and break it down.


The apparent widespread tremor distribution following the recent earthquake is mostly artificial. The tremor epicenters in northern Cal are real, but the rest of it is the result of the computer mistaking all the rattling from aftershocks with tremor. This kind of thing happens with automated algorithms when you don't really have a dedicated analyst to verify things. I'm working on removing the artifacts; so if you see dots disappear, that's why.

- Aaron Wech"

This is my opinion:
Those data plots scrubbed ARE actual data that was revealed by the large quake. Their monitoring equip actually really detected new unknown areas that actually did move and did reveal new faults and areas of concern.

"all the rattling from aftershocks" reveals that the data plot epicenters that I screen captured are aftershocks / unexpected movement along areas possibly previously unknown but found to be different from the tremor data they were seeking and they had to ( for reasons unknown yet ) scrub the data.

Those data plots are where the increases in stress that A. Wect claims in his published papers that will occur from slow slip leading to larger magnitude displacement. His very own page has a graphic on tremors that nearly matches the same exact data he scrubbed.

I have the screen capture, comparing the two is eye opening. Looking back today and seeing it all scrubbed for two entire states is very telling as to what they will really show the very people funding with tax dollars.

Oh look, my dogs just tree'd another lead for more info....I'm heading to see what they found.
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Is John Vidale telling us something?.

He wrote the subduction post on PNSN in the log back in May, he's been around a lot longer than newcomer A. Wect. I believe that Johns statement in this news report is telling us what he and a lot of people suspect.

[link to www.nwcn.com]

He's telling about an un-reported quake ( actually two ) that I posted about early in this thread when I suspected the energy could be moving south. The quakes occurred at the northern tip of the cascading zone near the explorer plate. It never turned south after that. North tip of Vancouver island then is shown after the data scrub to still have tremors?

So we know these didn't get a lot of attention....but they remain after the data scrub and a declaration the tremor ETS is over officially ???

And then I posted how I suspected the Wasilla Alaska or Kalifornsky Alaska might see additional seismicity.... And just to the northwest of Wasilla has a swarm, and to the east of Kalifornsky had a few notable.

Then we get scrubbed data".........

I find it hard to put it all together when there are so many directions to look and getting accurate info is obscured from sight.

Does anyone have any info on their gut feelings?, anything you see that we are all missing?....

Yukon is looking like we've had a few moderates, but the trail is going cold.

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The above mentioned quake area I was referring to watch in Alaska is:

West of Wasilla
4.2
Date-Time
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 22:02:46 UTC
Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 02:02:46 PM at epicenter

Location
61.496°N, 150.723°W

Depth
67.4 km (41.9 miles)

Region
SOUTHERN ALASKA
Distances
10 km (6 miles) SW (229°) from Susitna, AK
44 km (28 miles) W (264°) from Big Lake, AK
45 km (28 miles) WNW (288°) from Point MacKenzie, AK
61 km (38 miles) NW (304°) from Anchorage, AK
Location Uncertainty

Event ID
ak10590604

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Look what's 180 km west of Haida Gwaii:

[link to www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]

I'm not sure if this is the location where the iron was dumped into the ocean, west of Haida Gwaii. It would be helpful to know the exact location.
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2012 geoengineering experiment
In July 2012, Russ George, an entrepreneur and not a scientist dispersed 100 short tons (91 t) of iron sulphate dust into the Pacific ocean several hundred miles west of the islands of Haida Gwaii. The Old Massett Village Council was persuaded to finance this geoengineering project as a salmon enhancement project with $1 million in village funds.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Look what's 180 km west of Haida Gwaii:

[link to www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]

I'm not sure if this is the location where the iron was dumped into the ocean, west of Haida Gwaii. It would be helpful to know the exact location.
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2012 geoengineering experiment
In July 2012, Russ George, an entrepreneur and not a scientist dispersed 100 short tons (91 t) of iron sulphate dust into the Pacific ocean several hundred miles west of the islands of Haida Gwaii. The Old Massett Village Council was persuaded to finance this geoengineering project as a salmon enhancement project with $1 million in village funds.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Russ George is an American businessman and entrepreneur best known for founding the San Francisco based geoengineering firm Planktos Inc. which claims to "restore ecosystems and slow climate change".[2][3] In 2007 he provided testimony to the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming.[1]
[edit]Geoengineering

In 2012 George and collaborators in the Haida Salmon Restoration Corp.[4] conducted an iron fertilization experiment dumping 100 tonnes of iron sulphate into the Pacific Ocean from a fishing boat in an eddy 200 nautical miles west of the islands of Haida Gwaii which George claims resulted in increased algae growth over 10,000 square miles. Critics allege George's actions violated the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) and the London convention on the dumping of wastes at sea which according to them contain moratoriums on geoengineering experiments.[3]
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and if you google for " russ george sulphate experiment " you find a lot of actually stuff of this month.

[link to www.alaskadispatch.com]

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

[link to www.newyorker.com]

[link to planetsave.com]

[link to thunderfeeds.com]

and a lot of many more. All articles from this month !!
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I don't see the connection between Iron Sulfate and an earthquake event. I see more of a connection between tidal phases and earthquakes.

I've noticed you've spammed multiple threads here at GLP with this same information, is there something you need to say?...
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Hi RedPaw, keep up the great info!

So looks like 2 juicy bits reveal this M7.7 is far from normal...

> The pnsg epicenters data being scrubbed and a bizarre 'artificial' excuse as to why the data was generated means he was told to remove it from public view.

> That the Queen Charlotte Fault moved as an oblique thrust event - Since a normal movement would be side to side, the question is how much of this event was vertical? So it was a diagonal movement - What was the vector and how does this affect the adjoining Explorer plate section of the Juan de Fuca plate? My guess - very unstable by the sheer number of large events of many depths since the M7.7
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Hi RedPaw, keep up the great info!

So looks like 2 juicy bits reveal this M7.7 is far from normal...

> The pnsg epicenters data being scrubbed and a bizarre 'artificial' excuse as to why the data was generated means he was told to remove it from public view.

> That the Queen Charlotte Fault moved as an oblique thrust event - Since a normal movement would be side to side, the question is how much of this event was vertical? So it was a diagonal movement - What was the vector and how does this affect the adjoining Explorer plate section of the Juan de Fuca plate? My guess - very unstable by the sheer number of large events of many depths since the M7.7
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Hello Haida, I'm trying to constantly find more info, some days are better than others ( busy on a few other things too ).

So where did you find that text info?
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