Marijuana might have it`s benefits .. but it also has negative effects

Look, I saw your Hypocrite trap coming a mile away. It's not clever, and is the pathetic tool of the unsupportable position you find yourself in.

Firstly, this thread isn't about Medical Drugs. Your attempt to steer it into this area is deflection.

Secondly, any time anyone takes any kind of hard-lined stance on anything, they are bound to be a hypocrite at some point or another.

It's the way life works.

Your whole argument here is weak and moot, not to mention off-topic.

A sound mind and body requires no pharmeceuticals, and shouldn't toss away that sound mind and body by ingesting harmful illegal drugs that, though non-fatal, have other repercussions.

A Sick mind or body requires drugs that may be fatal in order to correct problems that otherwise might also be fatal or debilitating.

Obviously.

I can't stop every Heath Ledger out there from abusing THAT system as well.

I was going to say something really important, but I forgot what it was.

Yes, but we NEED THESE THINGS.

You do not need Marijuana, and if you do, you have a problem.

God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)


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my suggestion.... STOP!


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Yes, you can either justify or Denounce just about anything with the Bible.

The Bible has nothing to do with formulating and sustaining a healthy society.

By the way, you have evidently never read Deuteronomy, nor have you witnessed the sheer hell Orthodox Jews go through on a daily basis to stay Kosher.

Paul is not the final Authority on much of anything.

You got so angry and personal just now because my point is a very valid one. You couldn't address your negligence to speak out against the death & destruction caused by legal prescription drugs manufactured by U.S. corporations, prescribed legally by U.S. doctors, and authorized by our government.

Look up the FACTS... Prescription drugs KILLED more Americans last year than heroin & cocaine combined. No only are peoples lives being ruined by legal prescription drugs and the chemical dependencies that they form, but children are being given these drugs with no knowledge of their effects on their bodies!

You keep opening your mouth and establishing your ignorance on this subject matter. Prescription drugs are reiking havoc on our society but you only seem to care about the 'drugs' that Big Brother told you were 'bad'.

Either you are uninformed, or you're a hypocrite... Which one is it?

you don't need those things....

I'm not uninformed at all. I know what you're talking about, and it's tragic and terrible. I already said I am aware that the system is corrupt...we need to address that as a society. That said, we cannot eliminate Pain killers and anti-psychotics, anti-depressants etc. until we have an alternative that works just as well or better.

That does not make me a hypoctie, it makes me rational, and it certainly doesn't justify illegal street drugs including marijuana, which is what this thread is about.

Will it make you happy if I just say I'm a hypocrite? Does that mean something to you?

I really don't care about you or your opinion of me, so if it makes you feel better and makes you able to sleep at night that you've somehow invalidated my opinions, Godspeed to you.

I know better, you're going to have to live with that if you can.

Yes, fine, we could all be naked apes living in trees. Good argument. You wanna get us started?

Ummmm....point is that plants can be POISON to your system. My point is far from irrelevant.

Your argument is, "It's an herb, it's a plant, so it's okay. It's natural."

There are plenty of things in nature that are meant to be used in small quantities or medicinally but not every day, and there are things in nature that are not meant to be ingested, smoked, or otherwise absorbed at all.

Dumbass.

I just love when people post these kind of posts with the title that indicates they could possibly have evidence of negative side effects then I come to see barley a three sentence description of what is obviously a newbie smoker...


Here's a hint bud you were already a coward and a hypocondriac all the weed did was show it to the world... Quit blaming the plant on your problems and instead realize all it did was show you have anxiety and GUESS WHAT GENIUS!!! These days 60%+ of the human population deals with that and that's what growing up is supposed to fix.


So many damn people blaming their problems on w/e they can fucking find instead of looking in the mirror.

Required reading for you Lada D:

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Prescription opioid painkillers are responsible for more fatal overdoses in the U.S. than heroin and cocaine combined, according to a new study out of Brandeis University.

"An epidemic of prescription drug abuse is devastating American families and draining state and federal time, money and manpower," Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said in a press release.
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Why are you so silent on this subject matter in your anti-drug crusade???

I use to do that all the time when I was in college. I would get so much work done. I lived in a condo, and would clean it top to bottom every little crack and crevace. I mean like scrubbing the grout with a tooth brush cleaning. If I just smoked a joint with friends we would end up watching tv all day long and get nothing done. The all day buzz was a good way to do boring stuff and enjoy doing it.

What is considered healthy to you?...?really.....?
Society is not healthy to start with(well in this point in time).....it's not gonna get healthy unless folks stop taking pharmaceutical...oh crap ...but chemicals are ok right...get out of here with that crap....haven't you noticed....and this is after time ...because time does tell....that in the last 35-40 years.....people have been developing the oddest of illness...and spurts of cancers...and even gradual diabetic become induced though pharmaceutical use...in pills ...in vaccines...

and your fight is with a God given plant...and not the sickos who are poisoning yourself and your fellow Man....

you're worried about a slither ...compared to a plank that just stands out....

oh but you're afraid to fight that fight ...right...??

Last Edited by Daniel of the Rose on 10/29/2012 01:58 PM

that is most people's problem, they are uninformed of the facts. there are many different reactions within the body that take place from when one eats, smokes, or drinks it. or the number things that the plant can be used for; paper, clothing, fuel, building materials, plastics, along with many more application. the facts are out there, people just don't want to do work to educate themselves. and they call "potheads" lazy.

You are uninformed...

Do you know how many states have medical marijuana laws on the books? How is it 'illegal' if your state permits you to use it for medical purposes????

Did you know that in the 1970's following a court appeal the Federal government began distributing medical marijuana through the FDA. Several patients qualified. The law was later repealed but the existing patients were grandfathered into the preexisting program and were permitted to continue to receive medical marijuana from the Federal Government. Two of those patients are still alive today and continue to receive medical marijuana from the FDA. It's grown at the University if Mississippi. This is a fact and these patients have even been interviewed for documentaries that have aired on channels like National Geographic.

So please tell me how you're going to passionately say marijuana is or even should be 'illegal' when 15+ states permit it's medical use and even our federal government is distributing it (to this very day) to Americans citiziens for medical use!

Like I said, you are uninformed. You say prescription pills are legal & okay to consume and don't harshly criticize people who use these substances but you cry fowl over marijuana when you don't even acknowledge that both U.S. states and the FDA are distributing it.

You said the system is 'corrupt' but I don't think you truly understand the extent of the corruption, nor why certain substances were made to be 'illegal' in the first place while more dangerious and life-threatening substances have been kept legal and made 'normalized'. Open your eyes.

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 10/29/2012 02:11 PM

I've already dealt with you, you're just being ignorant now.

Yes just being ignorant posting facts that challenge your negligence to address the matter from an informed perspective.

ANHEDONIC

Last Edited by Daniel of the Rose on 10/29/2012 02:08 PM

Hey, Guy, who is to say what I am or am not fighting against?

You have to understand, this thread is about ONE TOPIC: Marijuana.

Don't sit here and try to play a shell game with other issues.

I already said your big pharma is a problem that needs to be dealt with.

I already said that.

I said that already.

I'm not going to go on and on and on about it here, because this thread isn't about that, though you keep trying to make it about that.

If it will make you happy, take each and every big pharma exec out to a ditch they dug themselves and shoot them in the back of the neck while they fall into the trench.

I will not stand in your way.

What we're talking about here is Marijuana.

Do you understand that?

Start a thread on the subject and I'll see you there if that will make you happy.

Until then, this thread is about Marijuana.

Read my last post above.

There are other alternatives that don't involve supporting people trying to own the world, I'd say that growing and smoking a plant that they don't want you to have for such ridiculous reasons is one of them.

You must be slow. Yellow bus much?

If they didn't want you to have it, it wouldn't be available. Who do you think brings the drugs into the country?

I've smoked for over 20 years....if I take a break and go back, too much can give me that anxiety/bad trip feeling, but that's cuase you had too much with it being out of your system for a while. Also, WW can do that...certain strains can have that affect.

This is your argument?

Yer dum 2, bro

See...now I win.

Good stuff.

Al-CIAda sponsored mexican drug cartels, why?

then do you understand that you can get different affects/reactions within the body when smoking it, then eating it or drinking the oil. or as i stated above, also, that there are a number of application that the plant can be used for. to add more, you can remove different chemicals from the plant to treat a number of illnesses.

17 U.S. States currently say that medical marijuana is legal.

FDA distributes marijuana to U.S. citizens to this very day.

Please tell us how it's 'illegal' as you referenced in your post Lada J. Please tell us why a non-fatal substance with medical applications should be 'illegal' in your eyes when 17 states + the Feds are distributing it for medical use.

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Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 10/29/2012 02:22 PM