Iceland To Abandon Gasoline

that is cool but they still have to listen to Bjork

Fabulous! I hope the pessimists on my Long Emergency thread have taken note of this.

PLus, they have unlimited ice!!

This is great news! What other countries will get tired of the oil addiction and follow suit?

Iceland is great! Well worth a visit.

Cool places, volcanoes, geysers, hot springs, great people and great night-life.

It's a bit expensive though, but worth saving for.

Its not unlimited... they're ice will melt eventually too.

Well, this is just a good reminder of the difference between power hungry nations led by tyrannical leaders, and ambitious societys led by progressive leaders.

The United States had a chance to seperate itself from oil slavery when Stan Meyer invented the water driven car. Unfortunatly, for those in power, that knowledge was a severe threat. He was bought out, and eventually poisoned.

Great!!! Having the inital energy to separate water into H & O is one f the greatest stumbling blocks. The other is that it is hard to carry enough hydrogen to go far. Buit Iceland is conveniently small. Good for them.

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Awesome!!!

Iceland also saved Bobby Fischer.

Icelandic Haddock...mmmmmm, mmmmm GOOD!

There's something else you ought to know about Icelanders. The kids there can speak 5 languages. Iceland is 100% White people. They also killed, for sport, hundreds of Pilot Whales, those are the ones that have round heads and are meek and mild, like the one that recently died in England.

They must have a lot of Karma for the murder of a higher consciousness such as the whales/dolphins.

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SUPER-EFFICIENT ELECTROLYSIS

Water can be broken into Hydrogen and Oxygen using electricity. Standard chemistry books claim that this process requires more energy than can be recovered when the gases are recombined. This is true only under the worst case scenario. When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, using a system developed by Stan Meyers (USA) and again recently by Xogen Power, Inc., it collapses into Hydrogen and Oxygen gas with very little electrical input. Also, using different electrolytes (additives that make the water conduct electricity better) changes the efficiency of the process dramatically. It is also known that certain geometric structures and surface textures work better than others do. The implication is that unlimited amounts of Hydrogen fuel can be made to drive engines (like in your car) for the cost of water. Even more amazing is the fact that a special metal alloy was patented by Freedman (USA) in 1957 that spontaneously breaks water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with no outside electrical input and without causing any chemical changes in the metal itself. This means that this special metal alloy can make Hydrogen from water for free, forever.


Xogen Power Inc. - [link to www.xogen.ca] This is the website of a Canadian company who is trying to bring Supper-Efficient Electrolysis hydrogen to market.

Xogen domain name has been abandoned.

That outfit had a phd in chemistry working on the technology last year. Wonder what happened?

you don't suppose that the reason the domain name is abandoned is that there IS NO FREE ENERGY?????

This next deal can be built with off the shelf already developed technology:

Solar Assisted Heat Pumps. The refrigerator in your kitchen is the only "free energy machine" you currently own. It's an electrically operated heat pump. It uses one amount of energy (electricity) to move three amounts of energy (heat). This gives it a "coefficient of performance" (COP) of about 3. Your refrigerator uses one amount of electricity to pump three amounts of heat from the inside of the refrigerator to the outside of the refrigerator. This is its typical use, but it is the worst possible way to use the technology. Here's why. A heat pump pumps heat from the "source" of heat to the "sink" or place that absorbs the heat. The "source" of heat should obviously be HOT and the "sink" for heat should obviously be COLD for this process to work the best. In your refrigerator, it's exactly the opposite. The "source" of heat is inside the box, which is COLD, and the "sink" for heat is the room temperature air of your kitchen, which is warmer than the source. This is why the COP remains low for your kitchen refrigerator. But this is not true for all heat pumps. COP's of 8 to 10 are easily attained with solar assisted heat pumps. In such a device, a heat pump draws heat from a solar collector and dumps the heat into a large underground absorber, which remains at 55° F, and mechanical energy is extracted in the transfer. This process is equivalent to a steam engine that extracts mechanical energy between the boiler and the condenser, except that it uses a fluid that "boils" at a much lower temperature than water. One such system that was tested in the 1970's produced 350 hp, measured on a Dynamometer, in a specially designed engine from just 100-sq. ft. of solar collector. (This is NOT the system promoted by Dennis Lee.) The amount of energy it took to run the compressor (input) was less than 20 hp, so this system produced more than 17 times more energy than it took to keep it going! It could power a small neighborhood from the roof of a hot tub gazebo, using exactly the same technology that keeps the food cold in your kitchen. Currently, there is an industrial scale heat pump system just north of Kona, Hawaii that generates electricity from temperature differences in ocean water.

"They also killed, for sport, hundreds of Pilot Whales, those are the ones that have round heads and are meek and mild, like the one that recently died in England."

The whale that died in Londond wasn't a pilot whale, it was a northern bottle-nosed whale. Icelandic whalers hunt minke, sei and fin whales. Get your facts right.

And much as I dislike the fact that whaling is still practised in Iceland, it's not that long ago that a large numebr of countries, including the UK and the US (where most of the GLP posters come from I think) were also very active in whaling.

For countries like Iceland, giving up whaling isn't as easy as for others, and although I'm sure they'll eventually bow to international pressure, it has to be done gradually if it's going to work without a lot of rancour.

Innuit still hunt whales, seals, walrus and polar bears - are we going to suddenly impose our standards on them too, and force them to stop hunting?

I have a lot of respect for the Icelanders - a strong-willed and independent people - and although I might not like their choices in this matter I have to accept respect them.

Confused and incorrect facts as you present above don't do anything to reinforce our side of the debate...

Nexus Magazine article on free energy.

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They'll be up a creek with no paddle after the pole shift and Iceland winds up in the tropics, huh?

I'm not a pessimist Rita, I'm a REALIST.

You don't knowt he difference.

I would be happy to debate you.

name the thread name the time.

Start it.

THE ONLY REASON this WORKS is BECAUSE OF AN EXISTING CHEAP ENERGY SOURCE> THERMAL ENERGY TAKES THE PLACE OF THE OIL .

Rita.

some of us have studied this problem for years, and no the complete ins and outs.

You come in and claim to say that you know its wrong.

You have no facts, no evidence, only, a desire for it not to be true.

you're a fool

Discovery channel had a program on a while back about the big hydro project they are building there. The electricity was to be used to power the largest aluminum smelter in the world. They were having some problems with large chunks of ice falling on the workers digging out a big lake

Hmmm. Maybe we should invade Iceland.