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JUST-IN INTEL: Military Officer says Obama gave "Stand Down" order during Benghazi Attack. CIA Corroborates. 2 Navy Admirals Plot Coup!!

 
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At this stage I would be OK with seeing the US Military remove the civilian leadership of the USA, dismantle the political parties, round up the criminal elite and press the reset button.
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The only problem is that much like ancient Rome, once you allow something like that it won't stop there. It would be inevitable that whoever was in charge of the "legion" that removed the politicians would be the one that would become the new Emperor.
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At this stage I would be OK with seeing the US Military remove the civilian leadership of the USA, dismantle the political parties, round up the criminal elite and press the reset button.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26539904


The only problem is that much like ancient Rome, once you allow something like that it won't stop there. It would be inevitable that whoever was in charge of the "legion" that removed the politicians would be the one that would become the new Emperor.
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They have sworn to uphold the constitution and protect America from enemies both foreign and domestic. 100% constitutional, no need to suspend it.

Do the task at hand and then civilians take it back over.

Yeah there will be some bumps but something has to give and give soon as these criminal scum are destroying freedom.
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The military takes an oath to defend America
from enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.


America has no greater enemy than Barack Hussein Obama.

May God PROTECT ANY US Admiral or General who
takes his oath seriously.

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clappa
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I dont' support Obama ... but this has all the appearance of a "Made Up Hit Piece". The caller is unidentifiable. The stories are unconfirmable. It is ALL a BIG SECRET as to who is doing the accusing and making these claims.

If whoever made these claims would come out publicly THEN we could determine whether we should give them any credibility, but until then I certainly will NOT.
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The military takes an oath to defend America
from enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.


America has no greater enemy than Barack Hussein Obama.

May God PROTECT ANY US Admiral or General who
takes his oath seriously.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26537836


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26603255


Removing Obama from power, or even by an election doesn't eliminate the problem.

This is MUCH bigger than Obama.

You're focusing on one man too much here...

Obama was/is a useful idiot...

Good luck.
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Some of the stupid in this thread.... it burns!!!




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There will be more information leaks forthcoming on this before the elections, including a bombshell that will absolutely sink Obama...

By relieving two highly respected and non-political field commanders, Obama has delared war on his own military, don't expect them to take this sitting down...
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I sure as heck hope and pray they don't while making it clear to future administrations exactly WHO and what it is that they stand for.
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Just in:

Right wing make up gossip. They don't have credible sources so they hide their sources and make it so no one can investigate their claims. Then they spread the gossip around. And then they claim because their gossip is spread, they are right. Fucking lame.
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I dont' support Obama ... but this has all the appearance of a "Made Up Hit Piece". The caller is unidentifiable. The stories are unconfirmable. It is ALL a BIG SECRET as to who is doing the accusing and making these claims.

If whoever made these claims would come out publicly THEN we could determine whether we should give them any credibility, but until then I certainly will NOT.
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Yeah, because they want to be fired... or worse. stfu
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What secret intel did Obama have on the Ambassador?

And how did that sway Obama's decision making?
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This guy was put there to be killed...

so it should be what did he know about Obama... or the administration... what did he know???
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bingo..
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At this stage I would be OK with seeing the US Military remove the civilian leadership of the USA, dismantle the political parties, round up the criminal elite and press the reset button.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26539904


The only problem is that much like ancient Rome, once you allow something like that it won't stop there. It would be inevitable that whoever was in charge of the "legion" that removed the politicians would be the one that would become the new Emperor.
 Quoting: Son of Thor


They have sworn to uphold the constitution and protect America from enemies both foreign and domestic. 100% constitutional, no need to suspend it.

Do the task at hand and then civilians take it back over.

Yeah there will be some bumps but something has to give and give soon as these criminal scum are destroying freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26539904


I agree my friend. I was just expressing my fear of what could happen.
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Madame X;
Here is the US Military Enlistment Oath: "I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Now here is the US Militart Officer Commissioning Oath: “I, (state your name), having been appointed a (rank) in the United States (branch of service), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Military officers have sworn to support and defend our Constitution, but NOT necessarily comply with orders from the President.
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MUST, MUST SEE, WITH TRANSCRIPT: MILITARY OFFICER WITH INSIDE INFO PUTS BLAME ON OBAMA FOR DENYING BENGHAZI RESCUE, ‘STAND DOWN’ ORDERS

This is from a call into the Rush Limbaugh show today…Barack Obama: Guilty of Negligent Homicide.



CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.

It’s maddening to say that there was not intelligence. An intelligence guy is not a decision-maker. He’s just some analyst dude that tells the decision-makers this is what we know. Well, the decision-makers who are so risk-averse now need perfect intelligence. They would have had to have, you know, in the calculus of this, to know that, whatever the attacking force was, if I put 15 or 50 or a hundred operators on the ground, you know, they’ll have success. No one knows that. In soft planning, you plan to fail half the time.

[link to patdollard.com]
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The military takes an oath to defend America
from enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.


America has no greater enemy than Barack Hussein Obama.

May God PROTECT ANY US Admiral or General who
takes his oath seriously.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26537836


It amazes me how people can always use God but speak such nasty things about a person and take total disrespect and disregard for authority. At some point in the world every person has to follow the leadership of a President that they did not vote for. Never has any President had to deal with what President Obama has had to deal with. From the day he was inaugurated, many have set out to remove him from office. Many have verbally expressed their desire to make sure he fails. That was before he had made one policy or decision. That clearly speaks to the real reason some do not approve. It has nothing to do with what he has done to the country, because at that point he had not done anything except be inaugurated. It is amazing how people totally ignore the fact that 800,00 jobs a month were being lost prior to Obama becoming President. All these foreign countries have been at war with one another and killing our American soldiers prior to 2009. But many act as if this is the first time this has happened.
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Where were you all when Bush was lying the US into an un necessary war that cost the lives of thousands and the treasury trillions?

You were nowhere.

Shame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26413616


Be that as it may, we need it to stop NOW! With this administration. Bush is gone, this happened on Obama's watch PERIOD!
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Wow, so one has to take responsibility but not the other..Republicans are all the same. Their way is the only right way. A little education..if the economy was so strong, then two days of one person that the congress does not support, will not cause the bottom to fall out.
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Obama is taking credit for personally directing the Osama Bin Laden hit, and is also well-known for personally directing drone hits on targets around the world. It is unthinkable that he would have ignored this situation. It is quite literally impossible that, given the current protocols, he wouldn't know an ambassador's locale was under attack.

Anything else is just smoke and mirrors.

This is certainly the most important cover-up by a president since Nixon and Watergate, and we all know how that ended up.

Whatever else happened, the administration was issuing false statements even during the attack, and for two weeks thereafter. There is no reason to believe that the next utterance will be more honest.

This is a very serious matter. What comfort and assurance does any ambassador, other diplomat, or for that matter, any federal worker or agent have now? This is almost unbelievable, that such a precedent has been set.

Of course, the Valerie Jarrett administration doesn't give a hoot. It's all "election" and circling the wagons for them.
After all, they have important things to do for the Russians, after the election, and they aren't going to tell us what they're doing until it's too late, like the obamacare bill.
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This thread was just shared by one of the pages I subscribe to on FB.

Imagine my surprise recognizing Doorbert's avvie then seeing the shared link is to GLP!

Just want to know when all of the Benghazi scandal is going to get some actual reporting in the msm.
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What secret intel did Obama have on the Ambassador?

And how did that sway Obama's decision making?
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When this type of thing happens it is "real time". Happening as you watch and see it happening. IT DOES NOT MATTER, what he judged his responce to, he was wrong to denigh support and let those americans die. Firing 2 (two) superior officers in charge to stop their reacting to the mission was an act of treason and Obama should be impeached just for this, much less many other offences.
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Do you want Lenin TV to shoot something about Obama? YES WE CAN do this anytime :).

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The actual truth of Benghazi

There's A Reason Why All Of The Reports About Benghazi Are So Confusing
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Where were you all when Bush was lying the US into an un necessary war that cost the lives of thousands and the treasury trillions?

You were nowhere.

Shame.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26413616


Be that as it may, we need it to stop NOW! With this administration. Bush is gone, this happened on Obama's watch PERIOD!
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And all the guys who died were working on
a CIA project.
There's A Reason Why All Of The Reports About Benghazi Are So Confusing
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bump and a pin
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Should be pinned (again?)

This is incredible!!!! Mil wanting to bring down the admin. The military must have some amazing intel to think of doing that.

Tkx for the info DB!
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Heard it on the RUSH LIMBAUGH show? Who is this secret person?...credible sources only please...
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With this particular report would you not agree that it's more important to find out whether what the caller stated is true or not? If true then it has far reaching implications! Can you prove that what he said is not protocol? Otherwise I question your motives.
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My point is....Rush LIES...not once, not twice...ALL THE TIME. So I have trouble believing his "credible" sources so close to the election. Seems like just more of his nonsense. If there is truth to it...sure, I'm all for truth. Not lies from a drug abuser.
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Yes obama is a drug abuser self admitted so we should not believe a word he says
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MUST, MUST SEE, WITH TRANSCRIPT: MILITARY OFFICER WITH INSIDE INFO PUTS BLAME ON OBAMA FOR DENYING BENGHAZI RESCUE, ‘STAND DOWN’ ORDERS

This is from a call into the Rush Limbaugh show today…Barack Obama: Guilty of Negligent Homicide.



CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.

It’s maddening to say that there was not intelligence. An intelligence guy is not a decision-maker. He’s just some analyst dude that tells the decision-makers this is what we know. Well, the decision-makers who are so risk-averse now need perfect intelligence. They would have had to have, you know, in the calculus of this, to know that, whatever the attacking force was, if I put 15 or 50 or a hundred operators on the ground, you know, they’ll have success. No one knows that. In soft planning, you plan to fail half the time.

[link to patdollard.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Not going to believe anything coming from those who still hold on to and/or support the "story" that the "events" of 9/11 were carried out by a bunch of Muslims with box cutters, especially Rush! If anyone is guilty of killing innocent people its those who staged the "events" of 9/11! If any of them know the truth, and/or are covering it up, all are guilty of committing mass murder and/or are accomplices to mass murder!
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Just another Rush fail.
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Negligence Homicide? We in Russia have just straight himicide - commited by Putin :).
Watch Russian Roulette:

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I love all the shills on here screaming "BS" and "credible source1!1!1!!!"

[link to abcnews.go.com]

[link to www.navytimes.com]

[link to www.navytimes.com]

This guy was the fugging admiral of the Carrier Strike Group!!! Having served on a carrier, this admiral is practically worshiped as a God. Whatever excuse they would have for releaving him of his command would have to be something major and earth shattering. That and the phrase “inappropriate leadership judgment,” tells me he is toast - he will definitely lose his commission, a the very least, and probably stand court martial for something.

Anyway, I bet Valerie Jarrett was refering to coup leaders Admiral Gaouette and General Ham (and others?) in her "payback" comment!

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