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KIDS MURDERED BY NANNY IN NY *** NANNY SUFFERED BROKEN VERTEBRAE ***

 
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According to the news, the nanny accused of murdering CNBC CEO's 2 children, suffered a broken vertebrae. This is getting deeper and deeper.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

I suspect the nanny found the kids soaked in blood and cut her own throat as the children's mother walked in thinking no one was going to believe her.
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Wow this is a huge development while an er nurse I did see a broken vertebrae from a stab wound from in the back in a guy who was stabbed during a robbery.
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I truly believe she didn't do it.

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Devil is in the details. Slitting your own throat, as the mother described wouldn't shatter a vertebrae, if it did surely the jugular or windpipe would have to be completely severed, not a survivable wound. Something isn't right here, apparently the nanny refuses to speak to the police but has been asking doctors about her own family. She must have been hysterical to be put into a coma. My heart goes out to the family but something isn't right. I wonder if Kevin Krim will still testify? I feel like a total shit speculating at this point but if there was a setup surely that's exactly what they would want to happen.

Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent:

A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!"

So, series of events, neighbour hears screams, calls 911. Who was the superintendent screaming at though?
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It says the girl was trying to fend off the attacker so I assume if the nanny was the perp her dna would sadly be under the little girls nails.
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So she stabbed herself in the back?

Yeah, I can see that.
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I truly believe she didn't do it.

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This is almost as believable as somebody shooting themselves in the back of the head two or three times.
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Wow this is a huge development while an er nurse I did see a broken vertebrae from a stab wound from in the back in a guy who was stabbed during a robbery.
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So in your opinion could a survivable self-inflicted wound do this? Also, from the few pics I've seen the wound begins on the front of her neck.
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So she stabbed herself in the back?

Yeah, I can see that.
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It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper.
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She was probably defending them from the men in black.
Why don't those cunts ever come see me, ill give em a run for their money at least.
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Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent:

A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!"


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I recall reading that...
and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out...
NOT SURE WHAT...
But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!)
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So she stabbed herself in the back?

Yeah, I can see that.
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It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper.
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Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police.
I could definitely see that.

Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch.
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Wow this is a huge development while an er nurse I did see a broken vertebrae from a stab wound from in the back in a guy who was stabbed during a robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838


So in your opinion could a survivable self-inflicted wound do this? Also, from the few pics I've seen the wound begins on the front of her neck.
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I saw the pics I am sure the stabbing did not cause the breaking of the vertebrae there is no way, I would *assume* her vertebrae was broken during a scuffle. 1) It broke when she was killing the kids assuming the 5yo was fighting for her life this would depend totally on the nannys weight height and which angle she came at the kids with the knife. 2) She was injured by *inturder killer* who gave her a good body blow to that region. I hope the investigators don't the easy road here but for some reason I think they will.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
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So she stabbed herself in the back?

Yeah, I can see that.
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It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838


Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police.
I could definitely see that.

Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch.
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No the 6 yr. old received defensive wounds. The mother wrapped a towel around the nanny's neck to stop the blood flow, then ran out. And the mother isn't the one who called the police.
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So she stabbed herself in the back?

Yeah, I can see that.
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It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838


Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police.
I could definitely see that.

Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch.
 Quoting: -GooGooFlexy-


No the 6 yr. old received defensive wounds. The mother wrapped a towel around the nanny's neck to stop the blood flow, then ran out. And the mother isn't the one who called the police.
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Interesting...
I'd like to hear what the nanny has to say/gurgle.
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Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent:

A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!"


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339070


I recall reading that...
and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out...
NOT SURE WHAT...
But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!)
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Here's a link to that version:

[link to www.independent.ie]

Also here
“There were bloodcurdling screams from a woman,” said Rima Starr, who lives down the hall from the victims’ second-floor apartment. Ms. Starr also recognized a man’s screaming voice as that of the building superintendent. The screams prompted neighbours to call 911. Ms. Ortega was arrested as soon as the police arrived. She was taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, where she was in critical but stable condition. "

Ms Starr heard the mans voice who she ID'd as the superintendent screaming you slit her throat. If this is the case who was the super screaming at? the nanny? the mother? Did the children die of stab wounds or throat slit. Will autopsies be released publicly? This is fucking horrible to discuss but something doesn’t seem right.
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what would you do to somebody that just murdered your children?

attack them. she tried to kill herself. mom flipped and attacked the nanny body.

case closed. move on idiots.
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Radar online is reporting that her vertebrae broke when she slit her throat thats a new one on me, although I am sure the best doctors will say it is entirely possible.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
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Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force.
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what would you do to somebody that just murdered your children?

attack them. she tried to kill herself. mom flipped and attacked the nanny body.

case closed. move on idiots.
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Reports were the mom was putting compression on the nannys wounds I doubt she flipped I think she was acting out of pure shock. If I was in that situation I would have most likely killed her though.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
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Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force.
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Its a hard thing, killing a man.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838


Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force.
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Sure but the act of falling broke it so in a way a the downward force was in play.
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what would you do to somebody that just murdered your children?

attack them. she tried to kill herself. mom flipped and attacked the nanny body.

case closed. move on idiots.
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The mother was in shock. I don't believe at that point she even thought it all out. The only thing that was in her mind were her children. She didn't say in the apartment very long at all. She went screaming down to the lobby.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
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Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force.
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Sure but the act of falling broke it so in a way a the downward force was in play.
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I see what you're saying. It sure is possible.
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She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae.
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That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838


Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force.
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Also I broke 6 after a fall from my horse it was more painfull then childbirth x10000000000
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Nobody else noticed the first thing she asked about was her family?
As if they might be in danger?

She is not dead so maybe they are in danger now.

Leverage.

Very fertile ground for conspiracy theories. Like San Joaquin fertile.
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Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent:

A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!"


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339070


I recall reading that...
and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out...
NOT SURE WHAT...
But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!)
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I read that the super was yelling "You killed the kids, you killed the kids."

I can tell you from firsthand knowledge, the first reports of something like this are always 70% wrong. And so are the second and third, etc., reports. The press and tv media gets so much, even minor, unimportant details, wrong.

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