KIDS MURDERED BY NANNY IN NY *** NANNY SUFFERED BROKEN VERTEBRAE *** | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26339070 United Kingdom 10/29/2012 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Devil is in the details. Slitting your own throat, as the mother described wouldn't shatter a vertebrae, if it did surely the jugular or windpipe would have to be completely severed, not a survivable wound. Something isn't right here, apparently the nanny refuses to speak to the police but has been asking doctors about her own family. She must have been hysterical to be put into a coma. My heart goes out to the family but something isn't right. I wonder if Kevin Krim will still testify? I feel like a total shit speculating at this point but if there was a setup surely that's exactly what they would want to happen. Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent: A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!" So, series of events, neighbour hears screams, calls 911. Who was the superintendent screaming at though? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26339070 United Kingdom 10/29/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow this is a huge development while an er nurse I did see a broken vertebrae from a stab wound from in the back in a guy who was stabbed during a robbery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838 So in your opinion could a survivable self-inflicted wound do this? Also, from the few pics I've seen the wound begins on the front of her neck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2505838 United States 10/29/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2836766 United States 10/29/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339070 A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!" I recall reading that... and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out... NOT SURE WHAT... But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!) |
-GooGooFlexy- User ID: 1238529 United States 10/29/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper. Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police. I could definitely see that. Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch. -GooGooFlexy- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2505838 United States 10/29/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow this is a huge development while an er nurse I did see a broken vertebrae from a stab wound from in the back in a guy who was stabbed during a robbery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2505838 So in your opinion could a survivable self-inflicted wound do this? Also, from the few pics I've seen the wound begins on the front of her neck. I saw the pics I am sure the stabbing did not cause the breaking of the vertebrae there is no way, I would *assume* her vertebrae was broken during a scuffle. 1) It broke when she was killing the kids assuming the 5yo was fighting for her life this would depend totally on the nannys weight height and which angle she came at the kids with the knife. 2) She was injured by *inturder killer* who gave her a good body blow to that region. I hope the investigators don't the easy road here but for some reason I think they will. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper. Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police. I could definitely see that. Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch. No the 6 yr. old received defensive wounds. The mother wrapped a towel around the nanny's neck to stop the blood flow, then ran out. And the mother isn't the one who called the police. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
-GooGooFlexy- User ID: 1238529 United States 10/29/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It did not say the stab wounds were the cause of the vertebrae breaking one would assume maybe she broke it trying to kill the kids somehow some way? Although I dont know how much fight the little girl put up. It also could have been from somebody attacking her then killing the kids and fleeing I don't know but this s is getting deeper. Perhaps the mother beat seven shades of shit out of her before calling the police. I could definitely see that. Plus, it did say that the mother received minor wounds from fending off the crazy bitch. No the 6 yr. old received defensive wounds. The mother wrapped a towel around the nanny's neck to stop the blood flow, then ran out. And the mother isn't the one who called the police. Interesting... I'd like to hear what the nanny has to say/gurgle. -GooGooFlexy- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26339070 United Kingdom 10/29/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339070 A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!" I recall reading that... and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out... NOT SURE WHAT... But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!) Here's a link to that version: [link to www.independent.ie] Also here “There were bloodcurdling screams from a woman,” said Rima Starr, who lives down the hall from the victims’ second-floor apartment. Ms. Starr also recognized a man’s screaming voice as that of the building superintendent. The screams prompted neighbours to call 911. Ms. Ortega was arrested as soon as the police arrived. She was taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, where she was in critical but stable condition. " Ms Starr heard the mans voice who she ID'd as the superintendent screaming you slit her throat. If this is the case who was the super screaming at? the nanny? the mother? Did the children die of stab wounds or throat slit. Will autopsies be released publicly? This is fucking horrible to discuss but something doesn’t seem right. |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents. Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2505838 United States 10/29/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what would you do to somebody that just murdered your children? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11559373 attack them. she tried to kill herself. mom flipped and attacked the nanny body. case closed. move on idiots. Reports were the mom was putting compression on the nannys wounds I doubt she flipped I think she was acting out of pure shock. If I was in that situation I would have most likely killed her though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26329297 Australia 10/29/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents. Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force. Its a hard thing, killing a man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2505838 United States 10/29/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents. Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force. Sure but the act of falling broke it so in a way a the downward force was in play. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what would you do to somebody that just murdered your children? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11559373 attack them. she tried to kill herself. mom flipped and attacked the nanny body. case closed. move on idiots. The mother was in shock. I don't believe at that point she even thought it all out. The only thing that was in her mind were her children. She didn't say in the apartment very long at all. She went screaming down to the lobby. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents. Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force. Sure but the act of falling broke it so in a way a the downward force was in play. I see what you're saying. It sure is possible. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2505838 United States 10/29/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was on the floor. Maybe when she threw herself on the floor she shattered her vertebrae. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain That is not out of the question it takes a very sudden donward force to break shatter or otherwise injure a vertebrae which is why it is common in diving accidents. Depends which vertebrae. I know someone who fell and fractured number L-6 and 7, which is the lumbar. It is toward the lower back. Does not take a downward force to injure the lower vertebrae. Divers fracture C-1, etc., cervical, which causes paralysis. With 6 and 7 it's very painful but it heals with time. So, depending on which vertebrae, there may not have been a downward force. Also I broke 6 after a fall from my horse it was more painfull then childbirth x10000000000 |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States 10/29/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, on another site no mention of the mother actually witnessing the nanny slit her throat but a curious quote from the superintendent: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26339070 A neighbour heard the mother's screams and called 911. She said she also could hear the building's superintendent, who had arrived on the scene, yelling: "You slit her throat! You slit her throat!" I recall reading that... and yes I think there is something strange with the whole way this story has been rolled out... NOT SURE WHAT... But I am not buying the pre-packaged story of the evil/crazy nanny - (plus I have a natural suspicion of the rich - they NEVER play fair!) I read that the super was yelling "You killed the kids, you killed the kids." I can tell you from firsthand knowledge, the first reports of something like this are always 70% wrong. And so are the second and third, etc., reports. The press and tv media gets so much, even minor, unimportant details, wrong. Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 10/29/2012 12:10 PM ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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