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Inwards to Eternal Contemplations

 
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Your personality is an illusion and no more real than a telephone number. It's useful for us to communicate, but the ego, the persona, has nothing to do with how you circulate your blood, work your thyroid gland, blow the wind, grow your hair, shine the sun.. The same way you can't strangle someone with a telephone number, you can't "straighten" it all out with the ego. Perhaps the problem arises with trying to straighten everything out. Everything that we think we are is an illusion compared to the "concrete" patterning world happening of itself. So this personality I use to navigate the world is great, but I don't get it confused with the real self. Therefore one doesn't get caught up and develop anxieties, fears, figures..

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I see the possibilities of myriads of dimensions, infinite potentials. But not in a straight line or in any order as thought of by western science, where there is dimension #1, #2, #3, and so on. Instead I see it as a spectrum. Similar to how the pallette in photoshop is set up. A sphere of spectrum. But where we are now and this very moment is where you all belong. You belong here the same way an apple belongs to the tree. You are all these infinite potentials.

"Life is a bridge, cross over it but build no house on it."
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OP here. New Profile.

Another thread sparked my wonder, I wanted to add it here.

The Buddhist philosophy originates from the Hindu cosmology. That you are all that there is, the self of the universe. It is seen as a drama of the self. You are playing every part in this existence only you forget that you do that. If you knew everything you would be tremendously bored. So you go out and forget that you're it.

The cosmos, it is seen as vibration. This vibration is resonance. If we had no resonance we wouldn't have a sense of self. So things that appear separate are only resonance of self. Which is why you can't have black without white, space without form, sound without silence. But in between white and black there is the whole spectrum of color.

So this drama of self is like everything else. It births, grows, matures, and dies. Then it begins all over, only it always feels like now.

If you knew everything you would get rather bored, so you'd start dreaming. And soon you'd want to forget you're dreaming and see how far out you can get. And pretty soon you'd be dreaming of where you are now, reading this.
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TLDR; Finger pointing at the moon.





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Existence happens spontaneously. That is what happens during meditation. The world simply is, without naming it, being observed. But our secret is, the observer and observed are the same thing ;) The thinker is now also a thought.
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Existence happens spontaneously. That is what happens during meditation. The world simply is, without naming it, being observed. But our secret is, the observer and observed are the same thing ;) The thinker is now also a thought.
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blowing my mind bro!!

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So, you don't really exist as a separate self apart from everything that is. The air moving about, stars shining across the cosmos, dramatic people, social problems, grass growing, and blood flowing, is really all one process. The moment you realize you circulate your blood you also find out you shine the sun.

But don't get yourself mixed up, where you believe yourself to be omnipotent in the Christian or Hebrew sense, where god is an authority figure. You are omnipotent in the sense that you are all that there is, the universe. You are not omnipotent in whatever Joe Smith role you play.

For every inside there is an outside and for every outside there is an inside. Understand that and you'll have no further problems. Want to know why? Because you, who has problems is an illusion in the first place and doesn't exist.
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So, you don't really exist as a separate self apart from everything that is. The air moving about, stars shining across the cosmos, dramatic people, social problems, grass growing, and blood flowing, is really all one process. The moment you realize you circulate your blood you also find out you shine the sun.

But don't get yourself mixed up, where you believe yourself to be omnipotent in the Christian or Hebrew sense, where god is an authority figure. You are omnipotent in the sense that you are all that there is, the universe. You are not omnipotent in whatever Joe Smith role you play.

For every inside there is an outside and for every outside there is an inside. Understand that and you'll have no further problems. Want to know why? Because you, who has problems is an illusion in the first place and doesn't exist.
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i dig...hopefully more will too

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Glad you dig it. Maybe life can be the same. But for most it's a drag. Could it be fear? From early on we're taught to differentiate the world, and now the world to most is a giant mess of things, colliding about. And all these things don't really care for us or our feelings. So we feel hostile and alienated.

Now we are trying to wrap it all up under chains, so we can control it, because we fear it. For what is there to fear? If we truly know, deep, deep down, far, far in. That the self, you are everything there exists. Fear can only come from other. Since there is no other than the self, there is nothing to fear.

I see each of us as a point, a vortex, an aperture, from which the whole works, the cosmos, looks out through. But we're so hung up on this image of ourselves while here, and we take it so serious, that we live in constant anxiety.

Now how to let go of this illusion of self? You can't. Because there's nothing to let go off in the first place. The personality we call ourselves, is an illusion. And can't lift a weight.
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i like your helmet :)
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Now how to let go of this illusion of self? You can't. Because there's nothing to let go off in the first place. The personality we call ourselves, is an illusion. And can't lift a weight.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Maybe by accepting ourselves as an illusion is a step towards letting go of the angst and allowing ourselves to serve our cosmic purpose
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Now how to let go of this illusion of self? You can't. Because there's nothing to let go off in the first place. The personality we call ourselves, is an illusion. And can't lift a weight.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Maybe by accepting ourselves as an illusion is a step towards letting go of the angst and allowing ourselves to serve our cosmic purpose
 Quoting: Icey Beyouti



Is there a purpose to music? Or how about dancing? Energy is eternal delight, and the universe is ecstatic, it's dancing, making music. When you dance there is no purpose other than enjoying, you are one with it. Same with music, there isn't any point in the song to aim for. hf

How can we accept? When accepting is done through an illusion? Which we call our personality. So you can't do anything about, and you can't not do anything about, you can't even accept it. Where you at now? Now here, one gets close.

If you can understand that, you'll have no further problem. But whatever you might understand, don't lean on it. Meaning don't cling to it.
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i like your helmet :)
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Thanks :)
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I figured this belonged in here too;

Smart lenses. You think monitors and shit will get cooler and fancier? I think not, I can see computers, and most such display and entertainment devices disappearing. To be outdone by the more convenient smart lenses. In the future where 1 gram of DNA can store 700 Terabytes and technology is good enough to bind brain waves to command an operating system stored in the smart eye lens. A synthetic eye lens with heads up display, all your needs at the command of your thoughts? I think yes. If we don't blow ourselves up first!
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When all the world recognizes beauty as Beauty, this in itself is ugliness.
When all the world recognizes good as good, this in itself is evil.

Indeed, The hidden and the manifest give birth to each other.
Difficult and easy complement each other.
Long and short exhibit each other.
High and low set measure to each other.
Voice and sound harmonize each other.

Therefore, the Sage manages his affairs without ado,
And spreads his teaching without talking.
He denies nothing to the teeming things.
He rears them, but lays no claim to them.
He does his work, but sets no store by it.
He accomplishes his task, but does not dwell upon it.

And yet it is just because he does not dwell on it
That nobody can ever take it away from him.

-Lao Tzu

Something similar by buddha, "All that we are is a result of what we thought".

When you manifest beauty you simultaneously manifest ugliness. Difficult implies easy, good implies evil. Everything is a vibration as you can see. One cannot exist without the other because you wouldn't know what easy meant unless you knew difficult. You couldn't tell what is soft unless you knew what is hard. Like the poles of a magnet. At heart its the same thing but vibrates into polarities.

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The Ten Bulls

TenBulls1In Search of the Bull (aimless searching, only the sound of cicadas)
TenBulls2Discovery of the Footprints (a path to follow)
TenBulls3Perceiving the Bull (but only its rear, not its head)
TenBulls4Catching the Bull (a great struggle, the bull repeatedly escapes, discipline required)
TenBulls5Taming the Bull (less straying, less discipline, bull becomes gentle and obedient)
TenBulls6Riding the Bull Home (great joy)
TenBulls7The Bull Transcended (once home, the bull is forgotten, discipline's whip is idle; stillness)
TenBulls8Both Bull and Self Transcended (all forgotten and empty)
TenBulls9Reaching the Source (unconcerned with or without; the sound of cicadas)
TenBulls10Return to Society (crowded marketplace; spreading enlightenment by mingling with humankind)
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No mind will ever solve the mysteries of the universe because mind is only a tiny facet within those mysteries.
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What mind? No mind on things, no things on mind.
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I just want my Mind to become a holodeck so that I can spend eternity with beautiful girls.

I don't see the banking families are bored with their enormous wealth, only the sheeple is forced to search for something more because somebody stole their dream.

I say that the demonic elite stole our life via religions and made us into slaves so now we are trying to escape.

We could have a perfect life without too much dramas having great tantra sex orgies that would enlighten us automatically.

All suffering comes from the suppression the sexual energies that are moving the Universe.

We are all deadly sick because of this. Think, all the religions (except maybe Tao) suppresses sex as the ultimate evil and sin while God-All-That-Is uses ultimate sex to create everything.

Nowadays I think "What if I could create everything in my mind, a wonderful Cosmos and then escape to there being Godlike, if I could concentrate extremely hard for a long time.

Sorry for my rant, lol.

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