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Putin is now the World's New Oil Czar! Increases Defense Spending 59% while US Cuts

 
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Good Morning Doorbert.....

About the increase in Russian military spending....

20% Russia's state defence spending is stolen every year by corrupt officials, dishonest generals and crooked contractors - [link to logistics.about.com] or see also a May 21, 2011 R**ters article

The Russian Minister of Defense was just replaced due to allegations of financial misconduct - [link to www.nytimes.com]

Russians lose a huge amount of military equipment due to outright theft - [link to www.fas.org]

And the number of Russian conscripts who are unfit to serve due alcoholism & poor nutrition is just astounding....

So, I wouldn't be too concerned about the increase in the Russian defense budget yet... Let's just say there are counter-balancing factors that decrease the impact of the additional money...
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Can't say enough good things about this great leader..surely Russia today has no connection to the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist horror regimes that America now so closely imitates.

I guess Warburg, Schiff, and Roschchild are still around to control our political whores. Perhaps you know them as "corporate interests" or "Wall Street" or "the State Department" or dare I say it..the Federal Reserve"

Russia's interests and interests of the it's people are totally intertwined. If only we had the patriotism of a Vladmir Putin in our leaders,who would,as Putin did in Russia, break the back of the London-New York-Tel Aviv stranglehold on America that is raping us into this Weimar existence.
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Can't say enough good things about this great leader..surely Russia today has no connection to the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist horror regimes that America now so closely imitates.

I guess Warburg, Schiff, and Roschchild are still around to control our political whores. Perhaps you know them as "corporate interests" or "Wall Street" or "the State Department" or dare I say it..the Federal Reserve"

Russia's interests and interests of the it's people are totally intertwined. If only we had the patriotism of a Vladimir Putin in our leaders,who would,as Putin did in Russia, break the back of the London-New York-Tel Aviv stranglehold on America that is raping us into this Weimar existence.
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^^^This^^^


I wish we had a leader who has the best interest of the American citizens in mind instead of this one trying to correct the "injustices of colonization" and revenge and all Obama's warped and demented agenda.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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This week Mitt Romney’s son Matt traveled to Moscow for business and, reports say, allayed any concerns the Russian government had about his father’s harsh stance on Russia.

When it comes to Russia, Mitt Romney has been brash, at one point labeling Russia “without question our number one geopolitical foe” and “a geopolitical adversary.”

He’s also repeatedly lashed out at President Obama for allegedly being weak on Russia.

But according to a New York Times report, Matt Romney is trying to convince Russia that the tough talk is just talk:

“But while in Moscow, Mr. Romney told a Russian known to be able to deliver messages to Mr. Putin that despite the campaign rhetoric, his father wants good relations if he becomes president, according to a person informed about the conversation.”

[link to thinkprogress.org]
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In other words, more lies from Romnney. Thank God we didn't elect the most dishonest candidate in American presidential politics. I can't remember anyone who has lied more than he during the campain. Ever.
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Good Morning Doorbert.....

About the increase in Russian military spending....

20% Russia's state defence spending is stolen every year by corrupt officials, dishonest generals and crooked contractors - [link to logistics.about.com] or see also a May 21, 2011 R**ters article

The Russian Minister of Defense was just replaced due to allegations of financial misconduct - [link to www.nytimes.com]

Russians lose a huge amount of military equipment due to outright theft - [link to www.fas.org]

And the number of Russian conscripts who are unfit to serve due alcoholism & poor nutrition is just astounding....

So, I wouldn't be too concerned about the increase in the Russian defense budget yet... Let's just say there are counter-balancing factors that decrease the impact of the additional money...
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Yes on all accounts! Nice job.
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And I would add, even if the Russians spend more, they don't have what we have: rail guns, chemical lasers, rods from god, EMP cruise missiles, etc., etc. Oh, yeah, and they only have one functioning aircraft carrier, I think. They don't have the capability to, say, put a battalion of shock troops, say, the 82nd Airborne, nearly anywhere on earth within 36 hrs. They don't have the force projection capabilities that we do. Their navy is probably a couple hours' work for our navy. Their army--how can they move any of it anywhere unless through contiguous nation states?

And they could spend trillions upon trillions, but if they are still relying on conscripts instead of volunteers, they are no match for U.S. forces.
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And I would add, even if the Russians spend more, they don't have what we have: rail guns, chemical lasers, rods from god, EMP cruise missiles, etc., etc. Oh, yeah, and they only have one functioning aircraft carrier, I think. They don't have the capability to, say, put a battalion of shock troops, say, the 82nd Airborne, nearly anywhere on earth within 36 hrs. They don't have the force projection capabilities that we do. Their navy is probably a couple hours' work for our navy. Their army--how can they move any of it anywhere unless through contiguous nation states?

And they could spend trillions upon trillions, but if they are still relying on conscripts instead of volunteers, they are no match for U.S. forces.
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Russia has never been about the navy. The USSR decided early on to focus on submarines and forget about surface ships. It's unnecessary for them. Russia is a traditional empire, it focuses on its borders and the areas immediately at the borders. It already has all the resources it needs. But no matter what government rules Russia, it will always be imperialistic. That is important to remember.
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why does war propaganda get pinned?
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Russia: The new America, The United States: the New USSR

Took Russia awhile to recover from the Bolsheviks (and just who were they?) , a long hard road, Perhaps the US can kick them out some day, Patton knew.
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This.

After they left Russia they came here to pillage our nation.
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US still spends 50 times more
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^this^

Carry on folks,nothing to see here....


Peace
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It's interesting how there is so much pro- Russia sentiment coming from "USA" posters on this forum.

If you are looking for a Russian overlord to faun over, you need look no further than the whitehouse.
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It's interesting how there is so much pro- Russia sentiment coming from "USA" posters on this forum.

If you are looking for a Russian overlord to faun over, you need look no further than the whitehouse.
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Tell me about it. It seems like all those macho bullshit media campaigns by Kremlin worked. KGB Putin certainly knows his craft.
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why does war propaganda get pinned?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27237676


Russia: The new America, The United States: the New USSR

Took Russia awhile to recover from the Bolsheviks (and just who were they?) , a long hard road, Perhaps the US can kick them out some day, Patton knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3237752



This.

After they left Russia they came here to pillage our nation.
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Actually many of them were already here and left to begin a reign of terror in Russia.
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Imagine that in Russia resources are being used to build a powerful state, militarilly and economically. Everyone else is using resources to make individuals wealthier.

Last Edited by Northman on 11/10/2012 12:22 PM
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The president has received his " flexibility ".


Time to get crackin'.
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Funny how the Russians have a dictator who looks out for Russian interests. (and his own I know)
Yet, in America we have one that puts everyone else's best interests in front of the country's.
 Quoting: Just Some Guy


It is very odd. I can't remember ever having a POTUS who did everything possible to destroy the country the way Obama does. And yet he was re-elected. But by those who stand to gain from his freebies only as they collectively destroy the country.

Putin looks better all the time. Russia is going forward while America is faltering.
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So true :(. I cant believe the collective stupidness of our population here in the USA... UGH
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It's interesting how there is so much pro- Russia sentiment coming from "USA" posters on this forum.

If you are looking for a Russian overlord to faun over, you need look no further than the whitehouse.
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But Putin looks out for his people and his country..unlike our leader does
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Oil is abiotic, not from dead animals.

The Russians have proved it.


hf
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It's interesting how there is so much pro- Russia sentiment coming from "USA" posters on this forum.

If you are looking for a Russian overlord to faun over, you need look no further than the whitehouse.
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But Putin looks out for his people and his country..unlike our leader does
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Russia is still a shithole. Large urban centers are doing well, most of the country not so much. If he really was looking out for his people he would focus more resources to developing the poor countryside. Cities like St. Petersburg and Moscow are wonderful, but especially in Moscow you can see the poverty too. The country is economically extremely divided and it will take decades for it to develop to western(European) standards as a whole, if they really even want it. Social democracy would be a great thing for Russia, atm they seem a bit too state capitalist (like the USSR/China).
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Exxon Mobil is no longer the world’s number-one oil producer. As of last week, that title belongs to Putin Oil Corp – oh, whoops. I mean the title belongs to Rosneft, Russia’s state-controlled oil company.

Rosneft is buying TNK-BP, which is a vertically integrated oil company co-owned by British oil firm BP and a group of Russian billionaires known as AAR. One of the top-ten privately owned oil producers in the world, in 2010 TNK-BP churned out 1.74 million barrels of oil equivalent per day from its assets in Russia and Ukraine and processed almost half that amount through its refineries.

With TNK-BP in its hands, Rosneft will be in charge of more than 4 million barrels of oil production a day. And who is in charge of Rosneft? None other than Vladimir Putin, Russia’s resource-full president.

[link to stratrisks.com]
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Russia is still a shithole. Large urban centers are doing well, most of the country not so much. If he really was looking out for his people he would focus more resources to developing the poor countryside. Cities like St. Petersburg and Moscow are wonderful, but especially in Moscow you can see the poverty too. The country is economically extremely divided and it will take decades for it to develop to western(European) standards as a whole, if they really even want it. Social democracy would be a great thing for Russia, atm they seem a bit too state capitalist (like the USSR/China).
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this
Wake Up
Let Me Off This Crazy Ride!!

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Even if Russia increases it's spending by 59% that will bring them up to around $93 Billion. That is not even close to what we spend....A WHOPPING $700 BILLION!!!
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Five Countries with the Highest Military Expenditure

Russia spends about $59 Billion on military expenses, less than 10% of what the United States spends. Russia spends more on military than most other countries on both a per capita basis ($410) and as a percent of GDP (4.0%).

France spends about $59 Billion on military expenses, less than 10% of what the United States spends. France spends more on military than most other countries on a per capita basis ($912) and less as a percent of GDP (2.3%).

United Kingdom spends about $60 Billion on military expenses, less than 10% of what the United States spends. The UK spends more on military than most other countries on both a per capita basis ($961) and as a percent of GDP (2.7%).

China spends about $119 Billion on military expenses, roughly 7% of the entire world's expenses and less than 20% of the amount the US spends. China spends less on military than most other countries on both a per capita basis ($89) and on a percent of GDP (2.1%).

United States spends about $700 Billion on military expenses or about 43% of the world's total. Its expenditure per capita ($2,240) and its percent of GDP spent on military (4.8%) are much higher than most other countries in the world. American military expenses have dramatically increased in the last decade due to the wars with the budget for defense more than twice what it spent in 2000 and about 20 percent of its entire federal budget.
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why does war propaganda get pinned?
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Russia: The new America, The United States: the New USSR

Took Russia awhile to recover from the Bolsheviks (and just who were they?) , a long hard road, Perhaps the US can kick them out some day, Patton knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3237752


This is too easy:
The "Bolsheviks" are as a Russian, Communists Phoenix rising, and the Palestinians its ashes.

the "who" = the "Communists" ("Bolsheviks");

no "were" about it, are the Israel leaders;

who are the "Israel leader"? Theyare the old Russian, Communist bloc. and tentacles.

They probably all study Babylon Talmud in Minsk.