I thought Gary Johnson was supposed to be on the ballot in all states?

Casting a vote for a candidate that will get <1%. Tell me again what kind of statement is made and to whom and does anyone give a crap for your little statement.

TPTB must be shakin' in their boots.

Sadly, from what I've seen, OK doesn't allow anyone but the chosen 2 on the ballot.

MI is the other state that he's not technically "on" the ballot but at least they allow a write-in for him there.

Write-ins are not allowed in OK from what I've seen. It's too bad that OK doesn't allow people an actual choice.

Being a sheep is the right thing to do?

I disagree. I am hopeful he will be able to break the 5% popular vote barrier and get funding for the Libertarian party next presidential election. That will make a HUGE difference and we might not have to "choose" between 2 pieces of shit next time around.

What does casting a vote for one of the 2 "chosen" ones say? It says that you approve of their warmongering and reckless spending.

Sadly, some people just don't "get it"... they sure think they do though.

Because people are tired of choosing dumb and dumber?

the only answer is to write in, if you cant then spoil the vote.

I dont understand this 5% thing.
In '92 Perot got 18% and yet we are still here with two parties.

whats different this time around?

does this void OK from the count?

This might answer that:

[link to cgi.cnn.com]

From what I can tell, it might be because he did not run under the same party title in 1996 as in 1992?

More info here: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

I can't find anything specific saying why he didn't get money though... if anyone else can, I'm interested.

Not sure what you mean... I don't believe any write-ins will be counted in OK if that's what you're asking.

ok in 1996 he got 8% which is still greater than 5%
yet here we are with 2 options still.

I dont see how its making a difference

Some of us aren't content to give up quite yet. You can keep voting for whomever you feel is less evil of the 2 "choices" you've been given, some of us will continue to try to break out of that mindset. You can thank us later if that goal is ever achieved.


And here's what happened in 2000
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

After a bitter fight, Pat Buchanan secured the Reform Party nomination over John Hagelin of the Natural Law Party. Hagelin and an anti-Buchanan faction walked out and held a separate convention across the street, where they nominated Hagelin as the party's candidate. The dispute went to the courts and the FEC decided that Buchanan was the legitimate nominee and awarded him $12.6 million in campaign funds.[9] Buchanan's running mate was Ezola B. Foster. Buchanan got 449,225 votes, 0.4% of those voting,[clarification needed] and the party lost its matching funds for 2004.[1]

^^^THIS^^^

Voting for a rock will get you the same results as voting Johnson. You are our hero.

Nobody is trying to be a "hero", jackass. Some of us are just tired of voting AGAINST our convictions and we're trying to make ACTUAL change.

Feel free to vote for more war and reckless spending if you think it will make things better. I'm sure Robama/Obamney will thank you for your support.

it's a lot easier to sit back and take what's given to you. i have fallen for it every election until now. the conduct of both parties makes me sick. it blows my mind that the majority of americans are so oblivious to the fact that decades of republican and democrat policies have put us in the situation we're in. what makes them think those same policies will save us? ignorance? naivety? blind allegiance?

My dad asked me if i'm voting this year. I said, "idk, if i do though, its gonna be Gary johnson."

He said, " who is that? I didn't see that name on the ballot."

smh.. anyway, i'm in the lone star state

If you seriously want actual change get a few million like-minded voters together and take-over the established parties and change them to your liking or form a kick-ass 3rd party that wins. Protest vote gets you nowhere but whatever.

California had Johnson in the ballot.

I am voting for him more than likely as that will help another party get the votes needed for relevance.

Sounds like the republicans hijacked the party.

I once heard that Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Relevance of practically nothing is practically zero. Soldier on with this game-changer and best of luck with all that.
The best way to change this 2 party system is from the inside. Party structure makes that very difficult on purpose but it can be done. Just ask the Tea Party.

yeah tough choice....vomit, or excrement

really REALLY!!! Have you heard of voting your conscience not for whom you think is going to win or have a chance at winning?

No I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would the "statement" have to be for anybody but him/her self?


Let's see what kind of a retard response you come up with!!!!

Voted my conscience with Ross Perot, who ended up with 12%, I think, to ensure a Clinton victory. I was mad as hell that govt. spending/deficits were sky-rocketing. Of course, they have only gotten worse. Much worse!
As an election alternate judge, I am glad to see voters of any and all stripes. Election time is about the only time the politicians give a damn if then, and usually to pander for votes.
We have a 2 party system. That is the structure and both parties fight to keep it. They gerrymander to support incumbents and refuse term limits that threaten the establishment.
I think the change has to come from within the parties themselves and we have seen it. O and his czars/advisers pulled the D's to the left and the Tea Party pulled the R's to the right.
Vote your conscience and I hope your choice will help to unite the country enough to face the many challenges ahead.

You mean like the Tea Party? ..that got hijacked real fast by republicans.

Not totally. It was better than nothing, and all bamma all the time. Boner was in a straight-jacket that kept him from bending over for the "O" on everything. That's why the D's were screaming bloody murder about the TP. Remember the Radical Extremist Campaign? Less spending, smaller govt. = extremeist? Oh really now?

Not totally. It was better than nothing, and all bamma all the time. Boner was in a straight-jacket that kept him from bending over for "O" on everything. That's why the D's were screaming bloody murder over the TP. Remember the Radical Extremist Campaign? Less spending, smaller govt. = extremeist? Oh really now?

actually, voting for a rock will get you the same results as romeny or obama. You think things will be any different with either of them running the country?

Thats the thing that kills me. I didn't like Bush as a president. I don't like Obama as a president. I don't expect Romney to do anything but carry the torch.

It's a fucking shame that we're left voting for the lesser of two evils.

The real problem is that people like you are afraid of real change and think that voting outside the big 2 is a waste. I know Johnson will lose. I know that voting Johnson isn't going to make a difference in the race 4 years from now.


But when this country continues to be a cess pool of shit and the failures of a greenspan credit economy, at least I'll be able to sit back and say I did all that I could with my one vote to change things. You'll only be able to attempt to defend your choice.