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Uncle Mikey User ID: 26308867 United States 10/31/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can't be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large" Universe - Hydrogen "Christ is all and in all"... Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 10/31/2012 05:41 PM |
Daersoulkeeper User ID: 1159767 United States 10/31/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BREAKING: SCIENTIST CLAIM TO BE GOD AND OFFER SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF THEIR GODSHIP fuck you scientists your dumb as shit the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the TELL-LIE-VISION television when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision tell lie vision |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26729809 Australia 10/31/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The soul must reside in the brain, that's the only organ that can't be replaced and souls will never be transplanted from one to another...plus our brain is what separates us from the other animals and is where we choose our orientation and make decisions based on morality... Quoting: BRIEF The Heart is more important than the brain. No, the heart is just a pump and can be replaced...yeah I know what you mean by "heart" but you're still wrong :) Wrong as usual [link to www.scientificamerican.com] |
The Norwalk Avenger User ID: 19536284 United States 10/31/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assertions, uncertainty, hypothesis do not qualify as to quantum operations nor aural potential, regardless of how it appears. Quoting: fortytwo The soul is the silver cord, the ethric fire, the radiance of life energy from our sacred heart and its potential is immortal and as a result, indefinable. God smiles when we seek to discover his complex and brilliant creation...so long as we don't alter or pervert it...learning is seeking closeness to God, and it's a form of praise and worship... I believe this to be absolutely true as well. I believe it is possible to glorify God's name and to do so in an urban, secular environment. I don't take anything for granted. -N- Reclaim the Present from Apathy and Despair Care without Hope, Hope without Care |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1445731 United States 10/31/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A PAIR of world-renowned quantum scientists say they can prove the existence of the soul. Quoting: Son Of Macedon American Dr Stuart Hameroff and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules which live within our brain cells. Their idea stems from the notion of the brain as a biological computer, "with 100 billion neurons and their axonal firings and synaptic connections acting as information networks". They argue that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects inside these microtubules - a process they call orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR). In a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Or in layman's terms, the soul does not die but returns to the universe. Read more: [link to www.news.com.au] Sounds like an episode from the Outer Limits! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25914603 United States 10/31/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One question this leads to for me is; Quoting: *Evan* How can someone have an NDE without being declared braindead? If the soul resides in the brain? Because it's not an all or nothing process...the grip is loosened but not severed, until brain death. thats interesting how you put it. "the grip is loosened" when I left my body I felt like I relaxed my grip and started to float up. Thread: Near Death Experience |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5893661 United States 10/31/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One question this leads to for me is; Quoting: *Evan* How can someone have an NDE without being declared braindead? If the soul resides in the brain? Because it's not an all or nothing process...the grip is loosened but not severed, until brain death. thats interesting how you put it. "the grip is loosened" when I left my body I felt like I relaxed my grip and started to float up. Thread: Near Death Experience That is kind of how it felt to me, but it also seemed like an alien abduction because for three seconds I was floating near the ceiling looking down at my frozen body still sitting in the chair motionless seemingly frozen in time, eyes still open, then it felt like I slammed back into my body really hard, before that I just dismissed NDE's and out of bodies! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26361720 United States 10/31/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal belief is the brain is a machine that interrupts or interacts with our soul. The soul lives nearby or within. Could explain why on average your body will replace every cell every 7 years and you don't loss memory or self. Quoting: sunspotkiller Great point! This is not a great point, but rather illustrates the commentator's ignorance on biological processes. It is true that cells in the body are recycled roughly every 7 years, however, they are cycled intelligently, without destroying the brain structures that embed our experiences. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26361720 United States 10/31/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The soul must reside in the brain, that's the only organ that can't be replaced and souls will never be transplanted from one to another...plus our brain is what separates us from the other animals and is where we choose our orientation and make decisions based on morality... Quoting: BRIEF The Heart is more important than the brain. No, the heart is just a pump and can be replaced...yeah I know what you mean by "heart" but you're still wrong :) Wrong as usual [link to www.scientificamerican.com] Don't be so pedantic: "The little brain in our innards, in connection with the big one in our skulls, partly determines our mental state and plays key roles in certain diseases throughout the body." [emphasis mine] The bulk of the relevant equipment lies in the brain. The heart can in principle be replaced with no ill-effect on bodily or mental functions. |
ehecatl User ID: 26160376 Mexico 10/31/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Who knows, could be. But more directly I "justify" the existence of the soul in terms of Quantum understanding of the nature of reality, under a different set of principals. The soul would be evidenced under the quantum principal that nothing really exists at all unless there is someone to perceive it, that rather there is only empty potential without any real physicality in reality without the observer, as demonstrated with the basic "double-slit" test. This means that the zen koan of "What is the sound of the tree falling in the forest if there is no one to hear it", to have the correct answer more like "then in that case, not only was there not really any sound, but there was no forest either." And that leads back to that famous quote that goes something like, "You don't have a soul, you are a soul." Thank You OP |
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DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 10/31/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you who liked this article should check out the newest season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, don't know in which episode they talk about this, haven't watched it yet, but I will later. Quoting: Son Of Macedon "Tracking souls to the afterlife" Here is another article i posted as a thread that has the introduction to that episode. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] I was first to post this breaking news :P Thread: consciousness is a program for a quantum computer in the brain which can persist in the universe even after death says Dr Stuart Hameroff Not that it matters:) I'm just glad to see the article did get a pin. "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 10/31/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A PAIR of world-renowned quantum scientists say they can prove the existence of the soul. Quoting: Son Of Macedon American Dr Stuart Hameroff and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules which live within our brain cells. Their idea stems from the notion of the brain as a biological computer, "with 100 billion neurons and their axonal firings and synaptic connections acting as information networks". They argue that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects inside these microtubules - a process they call orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR). In a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Or in layman's terms, the soul does not die but returns to the universe. Read more: [link to www.news.com.au] Sounds like an episode from the Outer Limits! And whats wrong with that. We are always reach out to the outer limits. That is how we progress, by thinking the unthinkable and making it reality. "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 10/31/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you who liked this article should check out the newest season of Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, don't know in which episode they talk about this, haven't watched it yet, but I will later. Quoting: Son Of Macedon "Tracking souls to the afterlife" Here is another article i posted as a thread that has the introduction to that episode. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] I was first to post this breaking news :P Thread: consciousness is a program for a quantum computer in the brain which can persist in the universe even after death says Dr Stuart Hameroff Not that it matters:) I'm just glad to see the article did get a pin. From the above article: "The concept is similar to the Buddhist and Hindu belief that consciousness is an integral part of the universe - and indeed that it is really all there may be, a position similar to Western philosophical idealism. With these beliefs, Dr Hameroff holds that in a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Instead it merely leaves the body and returns to the cosmos." "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
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The Norwalk Avenger User ID: 19536284 United States 10/31/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just say, quantum physics comes down to this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281126 If all the theories now in place hold, EVERYTHING is possible. Limitless energy. Life after death. Being everywhere and almighty. We just have to find out a way how. Indeed. The field of theoretical physics also states in no uncertain terms that in an infinite universe, anything is possible. -N- Reclaim the Present from Apathy and Despair Care without Hope, Hope without Care |
stillhere User ID: 20652460 United States 10/31/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The soul must reside in the brain, that's the only organ that can't be replaced and souls will never be transplanted from one to another...plus our brain is what separates us from the other animals and is where we choose our orientation and make decisions based on morality... Quoting: BRIEF Excellent. Bump for later reading. "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3933856 Norway 10/31/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The soul must reside in the brain, that's the only organ that can't be replaced and souls will never be transplanted from one to another...plus our brain is what separates us from the other animals and is where we choose our orientation and make decisions based on morality... Quoting: BRIEF The Heart is more important than the brain. No, the heart is just a pump and can be replaced...yeah I know what you mean by "heart" but you're still wrong :) It is now known that the heart contains nurons and yes there is plenty of evidence that shows people who have had heart transplants have had personality changes corosponding to the personalities of the organ donor. Strange world indeedie... |
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