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Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.

 
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My hometown! :-(
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Thank you, OP for all the info...very interesting and very possible...;)
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Reading this makes one want to become a sheep again, but there is no turning back once you open your eyes.

Thanks for the perserverance El Q, good info on our immenent doom.
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wow Matt Simmons was right.

what is going on down under the GOM now.

i guess we just site and watch the play out in freaking slow motion.

nice find OP
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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wow Matt Simmons was right.

what is going on down under the GOM now.

i guess we just site and watch the play out in freaking slow motion.

nice find OP
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Matt Simmons, RIP - he was one of my heroes during the BP fracture fiasco. So, psyoptics, you were familiar with his work, which of his videos might add to the discussion here? I think.... he clearly was trying to get the word out about this scenario on Dylan Ratigan and other TV programs, right? Thanks for your input.
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
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Lots of good info in this thread:

Thread: Massive Methane LEAK in Arctic sea - the End is Nigh
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Hi El Q, this looks very important, I'm not familiar with this Methane Hydrate so I don't know how to analyse, but thanks for posting.
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wow Matt Simmons was right.

what is going on down under the GOM now.

i guess we just site and watch the play out in freaking slow motion.

nice find OP
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I agree. Great job, OP.

I think often about Simmons.

What did he know?
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agent phase 2 of opening the North American Union Causeway from the gulf to Canada is complete with Sandy...begin phase 3...dont worry citizens, we are Geo-engineering the causeway, one step at a time...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Well, I figure that it could only be one of three things:

1. Deepwater "blowout" was due to human error, they are attempting to deal with situations as they arise, and they are really not sure what is going to happen.

2. They were aware of building stress and fracturing which would eventually lead to catastrophic methane release, salt dome infiltration, cascading faultline rips, land subsidence and seawater inundation. They were attempting to mitigate these effects by systematic controlled-release of these stress forces.

3. They are directly attempting to cause the effects of #2.
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El Q, you've read this thread right? Does this support your smoking gun discovery?

Thread: ***TRIPLE THREAT***Jack Reeds Theory--Sink Hole, New Madrid, St. Lawrence Seaway
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They could be related.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano



I have a small history in geology and I do believe they are related.
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This incident is exactly what this sinkhole reminds of.
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
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It's believed to have occurred in the past.
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Thanks, El Q for getting all of this together on one thread!

Great Info

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5 stars and a pin request, my friend!
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Gas Hydrate in the Northern Gulf of Mexico Has Puzzling Characteristics and Could Pose a Hazard to Deep Drilling

[link to soundwaves.usgs.gov]

Gulf Stream Shift Linked to Methane Gas Escaping from Seabeds
The new work could reinvigorate a debate on the risk of methane release from the oceans and whether destabilized hydrates make the continental slopes more unstable

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Related:


Gulf Stream might be releasing seafloor methane
Greenhouse gas may be flowing into ocean waters off U.S. east coast

[link to www.sciencenews.org]

Here's some proof that the gas is escaping:

On October 17, a survey by undersea vehicles found "intermittent drops of oil" coming from an 86-ton metal cofferdam that BP attempted to lower onto the Macondo well in May 2010 to funnel the oil to the surface. BP engineers aborted the plan after methane hydrates, a flammable form of frozen natural gas, began collecting on the cofferdam. The cofferdam was abandoned on the ocean floor.
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Great information OP! Thanks for posting this.
I do believe they have created a methane monster!
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Posted this a few weeks ago in the Assumption thread. Several documents in that thread you should check out, you will like them. here are a few.

Thermogenic gas hydrates, gulf of mexico - continental slope:
[link to web.anl.gov]
 Quoting: TeamReaper


ACTIVE GEOLOGICAL FAULTS AND LAND CHANGE IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA (2005) Note: look at image on 1st page


Salt Water and Gas Migration along Fault Planes (PG 136)

"Wedging of fault planes as a result of relative movement between salt domes and surrounding beds may create opportunities for hydrocarbon, gas and brine releases. Water and gas migration may serve to lubricate fault planes and may be a precursor to movement." - PG. 137

Effects of Faults - PG. 167
 Quoting: TeamReaper


Gas Migration: Events Preceding Earthquakes:
[link to books.google.com]


The Anatomy of a Silent Disaster: Ongoing Subsidence and Inundation of the Northern Margin of the Gulf of Mexico Basin
[link to biotech.law.lsu.edu]



8.5.1 Injection of waste fluid – the Denver earthquakes

Between 1962 and 1966, around 625,000 m3 of contaminated waste water was injected in a deep
well drilled at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal
(RMA), NE of Denver, Colorado USA (Hsieh &
Bredehoeft, 1981). Injection was at a depth of 3650 m into a highly fractured Precambrian
Gneiss. Between 1962 and 1967 over 1500 earthquakes were recorded, with three major ones of
magnitude 5 or more in 1967
and which shook the Denver area causing minor structural damage.
Previously, the last event felt in the area had been in 1882. By the mid 1980s, the earthquake
activity had all but died away. The causes were attributed to movements along the fractures in
the gneiss triggered by the increase in pore pressure due to injection.

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[link to nora.nerc.ac.uk]
 Quoting: TeamReaper

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phase 2 of opening the North American Union Causeway from the gulf to Canada is complete with Sandy...begin phase 3...dont worry citizens, we are Geo-engineering the causeway, one step at a time...
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I am inclined to say I believe you are right . . .
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My hometown! :-(
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not for much longer

either leave or go poof
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Is there no solution? Granted, vested interests would have to acknowledge the problem first, but lets say it is acknowledged clear across the board--government, oil execs, scientists, citizens.

What are the possible interventions or repairs that could prevent mass doomage both in the short term and in the long term? Is there an anti-methane mineral or chemical? Or a way to capture and safely store the gas? Can we route it out of the atmosphere?

Just because the dinosaurs couldn't figure it out doesn't mean we cannot. Does it?
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Officials: Now up to 30,000 sq. feet swallowed by giant Louisiana sinkhole in latest collapse — Almost 20 times bigger than original estimate — “It’s a concern” (PHOTO & VIDEO)

[link to enenews.com]
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Gas Hydrate in the Northern Gulf of Mexico Has Puzzling Characteristics and Could Pose a Hazard to Deep Drilling

[link to soundwaves.usgs.gov]

Gulf Stream Shift Linked to Methane Gas Escaping from Seabeds
The new work could reinvigorate a debate on the risk of methane release from the oceans and whether destabilized hydrates make the continental slopes more unstable

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Related:


Gulf Stream might be releasing seafloor methane
Greenhouse gas may be flowing into ocean waters off U.S. east coast

[link to www.sciencenews.org]

Here's some proof that the gas is escaping:

On October 17, a survey by undersea vehicles found "intermittent drops of oil" coming from an 86-ton metal cofferdam that BP attempted to lower onto the Macondo well in May 2010 to funnel the oil to the surface. BP engineers aborted the plan after methane hydrates, a flammable form of frozen natural gas, began collecting on the cofferdam. The cofferdam was abandoned on the ocean floor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Excerpt from Soundwaves;

"As drilling in the Gulf of Mexico has progressed from shallow-water shelf depths (less than 200 m) to deep-water slope depths (more than 1,000 m), wells have come to penetrate the gas-hydrate-stability zone."

Last Edited by El Quisqueyano on 11/01/2012 08:19 AM
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

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Gas Hydrate in the Northern Gulf of Mexico Has Puzzling Characteristics and Could Pose a Hazard to Deep Drilling

[link to soundwaves.usgs.gov]

Gulf Stream Shift Linked to Methane Gas Escaping from Seabeds
The new work could reinvigorate a debate on the risk of methane release from the oceans and whether destabilized hydrates make the continental slopes more unstable

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Related:


Gulf Stream might be releasing seafloor methane
Greenhouse gas may be flowing into ocean waters off U.S. east coast

[link to www.sciencenews.org]

Here's some proof that the gas is escaping:

On October 17, a survey by undersea vehicles found "intermittent drops of oil" coming from an 86-ton metal cofferdam that BP attempted to lower onto the Macondo well in May 2010 to funnel the oil to the surface. BP engineers aborted the plan after methane hydrates, a flammable form of frozen natural gas, began collecting on the cofferdam. The cofferdam was abandoned on the ocean floor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Another statement from USGS confirming BP Macondo well destabilized a Methane Hydrate pocket;

"Because drilling can bring warm fluids up from depth, potentially melting the shallower gas hydrate, many researchers and engineers anticipate that drilling through gas hydrate may pose a hazard to the stability of the well, the platform anchors, the tethers, or even entire platforms."


When BP breached the Methane Hydrate the well became unstable and blew. This is what caused the GOM spill. Now we have a bigger problem ahead of us.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

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Posted this a few weeks ago in the Assumption thread. Several documents in that thread you should check out, you will like them. here are a few.

Thermogenic gas hydrates, gulf of mexico - continental slope:
[link to web.anl.gov]
 Quoting: TeamReaper


ACTIVE GEOLOGICAL FAULTS AND LAND CHANGE IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA (2005) Note: look at image on 1st page


Salt Water and Gas Migration along Fault Planes (PG 136)

"Wedging of fault planes as a result of relative movement between salt domes and surrounding beds may create opportunities for hydrocarbon, gas and brine releases. Water and gas migration may serve to lubricate fault planes and may be a precursor to movement." - PG. 137

Effects of Faults - PG. 167
 Quoting: TeamReaper


Gas Migration: Events Preceding Earthquakes:
[link to books.google.com]


The Anatomy of a Silent Disaster: Ongoing Subsidence and Inundation of the Northern Margin of the Gulf of Mexico Basin
[link to biotech.law.lsu.edu]



8.5.1 Injection of waste fluid – the Denver earthquakes

Between 1962 and 1966, around 625,000 m3 of contaminated waste water was injected in a deep
well drilled at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal
(RMA), NE of Denver, Colorado USA (Hsieh &
Bredehoeft, 1981). Injection was at a depth of 3650 m into a highly fractured Precambrian
Gneiss. Between 1962 and 1967 over 1500 earthquakes were recorded, with three major ones of
magnitude 5 or more in 1967
and which shook the Denver area causing minor structural damage.
Previously, the last event felt in the area had been in 1882. By the mid 1980s, the earthquake
activity had all but died away. The causes were attributed to movements along the fractures in
the gneiss triggered by the increase in pore pressure due to injection.

PAGE 94:
[link to nora.nerc.ac.uk]
 Quoting: TeamReaper

 Quoting: TeamReaper


"If eustatic rise continues or
increases and humans fail
to build protection levees to
appropriate heights,
substantial portions of the
Gulf Coast (primarily
Louisiana) will lie below sea
level and be inundated by
the end of this century."


wtf
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Is there no solution? Granted, vested interests would have to acknowledge the problem first, but lets say it is acknowledged clear across the board--government, oil execs, scientists, citizens.

What are the possible interventions or repairs that could prevent mass doomage both in the short term and in the long term? Is there an anti-methane mineral or chemical? Or a way to capture and safely store the gas? Can we route it out of the atmosphere?

Just because the dinosaurs couldn't figure it out doesn't mean we cannot. Does it?
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Lot's and lot's of venting will have to be done to try and alleviate the pressure. But venting on a massive scale.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!" Ezekiel 25:17

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