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Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.

 
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Holy smokes! I think I found the smoking gun!!

This excerpt is from a USGS publication. It states as follows;

Hazards

Gas hydrates represent a hazard to
conventional oil and gas production. In the
Gulf of Mexico, oil and gas exploration is
extending into water depths where gas
hydrates occur at the sea floor.
Pumping
hot oil from great depths through drill
pipes can cause warming of sediments and
dissociation of hydrate, liberating large
amounts of methane, weakening sediments,
and perhaps generating pockets of
highly pressured gas.
The result might be
gas blowouts, loss of support for pipelines,
and sea-floor failure that could lead to
underwater landslides and the release of
methane from hydrates.
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I have read that methane with a brine content burns with a purplish flame. I have also read in the old accounts of the new madrid quakes that the quake fissures released a gas that gave a purple tint to the atmosphere. Could these be related?
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See page 6 for the locations of the Methane Hydrate locations surveyed for both 1998 and 1999;

[link to www.netl.doe.gov]

Ring a bell?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yes! Wow, thanks for the research, would you like to link this thread on to a couple of the sinkhole threads? There are some great minds there that are so helpful in digging out new information,
 Quoting: Tropicalgirl


Yes please do, I linked to a few others.

This needs to get out and go viral. This is either by plan or coincidence?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano

how could it not be planned. it had the look of planned way back when. everything i have seen and read since have only confirmed it. no way could they not know the ramifications of what they were doing.
look how they have dragged their feet, and bumbled around and stalled to where it has got to this point and still they bumble around and stall, and act like they don't know what is going on.
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wow Matt Simmons was right.

what is going on down under the GOM now.

i guess we just site and watch the play out in freaking slow motion.

nice find OP
 Quoting: psyoptics

i wonder just how long it will take to reach some critical mass situation? one that involves the whole coast down there and the new madrid, and all the worst fears for the pipelines all come true? how long??..
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447 I agree.
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
 Quoting: Lemon
yep. there are so many ways that down there could take a whole lot of people out, if it ain't one thing it could be a several others. it's like wired for total doom success.
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Great thread, I'll read the rest of it tonight, should be a super pin. Thanks!
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La. sinkhole collapses after quakes, new size disputed

Snip:
Meanwhile, pressure building beneath locals who live above the salt dome, sometimes feeling like they are "walking on jello" and sometimes jolted from continuing quakes have sparked human rights concerns regarding security, especially for those experiencing these intrusions occurring out of the mandatory evacuation zone...

[link to www.examiner.com]
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Re: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.
El Q, you've read this thread right? Does this support your smoking gun discovery?

Thread: ***TRIPLE THREAT***Jack Reeds Theory--Sink Hole, New Madrid, St. Lawrence Seaway
 Quoting: Tropicalgirl


They could be related.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano



I have a small history in geology and I do believe they are related.
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
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yep. there are so many ways that down there could take a whole lot of people out, if it ain't one thing it could be a several others. it's like wired for total doom success.
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perhaps the reason for all the underground bunkers being built, if those stories are true.
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447 I agree.
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i just wonder how long until they can get it ready to trigger?
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
 Quoting: Lemon
yep. there are so many ways that down there could take a whole lot of people out, if it ain't one thing it could be a several others. it's like wired for total doom success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26282447


perhaps the reason for all the underground bunkers being built, if those stories are true.
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i have no doubt about the bunkers and underground cities. seed banks, the way they have been looting like mad the past several years..they are getting their new hierarchy set up.
their depopulation plans are generally known. it looks they are moving right along..
this whole GOM, new madrid thing has progressed pretty much like i figured it would, except i thought it would go a lot faster.
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A massive methane hydrate release is an ELE.
 Quoting: Lemon
yep. there are so many ways that down there could take a whole lot of people out, if it ain't one thing it could be a several others. it's like wired for total doom success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26282447


perhaps the reason for all the underground bunkers being built, if those stories are true.
 Quoting: zeezee
i have no doubt about the bunkers and underground cities. seed banks, the way they have been looting like mad the past several years..they are getting their new hierarchy set up.
their depopulation plans are generally known. it looks they are moving right along..
this whole GOM, new madrid thing has progressed pretty much like i figured it would, except i thought it would go a lot faster.
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For those who have not already seen this. Perhaps it is not hurricanes they have in mind for these?
[link to digitaltexan.net]
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 Quoting: DivineRite


This incident is exactly what this sinkhole reminds of.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Yes. I took a lot of sub-sea footage during the BP Oil Spill GOM. Check out the Biloxi Dome Ancient volcano info. Connections to land under land tunnels. Salt domes etc. Giant methane deposit close to the Maconda site of Deepwater Horizon.


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[link to www.dtic.mil]



Interesting read..
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yep. there are so many ways that down there could take a whole lot of people out, if it ain't one thing it could be a several others. it's like wired for total doom success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26282447


perhaps the reason for all the underground bunkers being built, if those stories are true.
 Quoting: zeezee
i have no doubt about the bunkers and underground cities. seed banks, the way they have been looting like mad the past several years..they are getting their new hierarchy set up.
their depopulation plans are generally known. it looks they are moving right along..
this whole GOM, new madrid thing has progressed pretty much like i figured it would, except i thought it would go a lot faster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26282447


For those who have not already seen this. Perhaps it is not hurricanes they have in mind for these?
[link to digitaltexan.net]
 Quoting: AncientDust
??? but for what could go down down there, those things seem like they'd be like screendoors on a submarine.
they are probably just some way to funnel some more money out of the taxpayers.. remember how they worked it with haliburton..
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Re: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.
Well, I figure that it could only be one of three things:

1. Deepwater "blowout" was due to human error, they are attempting to deal with situations as they arise, and they are really not sure what is going to happen.

2. They were aware of building stress and fracturing which would eventually lead to catastrophic methane release, salt dome infiltration, cascading faultline rips, land subsidence and seawater inundation. They were attempting to mitigate these effects by systematic controlled-release of these stress forces.

3. They are directly attempting to cause the effects of #2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498151


It has always bothered me that they drilled so so close to the edge of a salt dome. Another deadly shortcut?

Thanks....great thread.
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I have read that methane with a brine content burns with a purplish flame. I have also read in the old accounts of the new madrid quakes that the quake fissures released a gas that gave a purple tint to the atmosphere. Could these be related?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17346821


Looks like it is ALREADY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!
[link to lasinkhole.wordpress.com]
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Thread: blah, blah, blah --- blah...blah
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[link to www.dtic.mil]



Interesting read..
 Quoting: Mahala


Thanks Mahala, that is an interesting read. If I felt the need to, I could probably find this on the U of M archival website. I was able to actually find my GF's law school photo there which was weird.

It's very scientific, but I will try to make my way through it. So much of what I am finding seems to be that common sense was ignored for the sake of productivity and cash.
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so are is every post about this a disinfo op? cuz we sure as fuck know what its really from, HYDRAULIC FRACTURING.
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I have read that methane with a brine content burns with a purplish flame. I have also read in the old accounts of the new madrid quakes that the quake fissures released a gas that gave a purple tint to the atmosphere. Could these be related?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17346821


Looks like it is ALREADY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!
[link to lasinkhole.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Childoflight 26754035

damned holy crap!! and that's 57mi from it!
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so are is every post about this a disinfo op? cuz we sure as fuck know what its really from, HYDRAULIC FRACTURING.
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i'm sure that helped things along a lot.
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I was just bullied by a squirrel. No kidding! He was furious that I moved his pumpkin. Michigan has a robust supply of very healthy and intelligent squirrels.

This would seem to support the hypothesis!
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I have read that methane with a brine content burns with a purplish flame. I have also read in the old accounts of the new madrid quakes that the quake fissures released a gas that gave a purple tint to the atmosphere. Could these be related?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17346821


Looks like it is ALREADY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!
[link to lasinkhole.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Childoflight 26754035


Anyone know if there's any coal seams close to the surface near this strange fire?

Just wondering if there is a third element at play, I don't know about in St Charles, but they do mine the coal seams for gas in Louisiana.
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Re: Methane Hydrate Site Immediately Offshore New Orleans,LA. Breaching Through Napoleon Salt Dome? The Smoking Gun.
Immediately off shore from New Orleans,LA there is a site of Gas Hydrate. Right in the same vicinity of the BP Macondo well oil spill. Could this be what has been breached and is now the cause of the bubbles and sink hole?

[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

You can see the red dot in the map. Dead smack in the middle of the area in question.

Excerpt;

Gas hydrates occur at many sites
along continental margins and in the Arctic
(fig. 1). Yet we know very little about
their composition, their volume, or the
best ways to exploit their resource potential.
The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS)
is investigating many aspects of gas
hydrates to understand their origin, their
occurrence, the factors that affect their stability,
and the possibility of using this vast
resource in the world energy mix.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


El Q, while I admire your tenacity, this is a little late in the game. I had already discussed this exact scenario with family members, and warned them of the dangers of drilling thru methane hydrates. Not just the enormous amount of pressure involved, but also their structure. Methane hydrates are lattice-like structures that are formed when methane/water freeze, sometimes at temperatures well above 32 degrees due to pressure. As you can imagine there is significant pressure where these hydrates form. Once you drill into these hydrates you essentially are relieving pressure and exciting the methane, on top of breaking down these lattice-like structures. Once this cycle starts, the only logical way to stop it is to expose the remaining hydrates to at least the same pressure and temperature.

As you can imagine, a little hard to do once this process starts. Who would have thought that we would be feeling the effects of the Deep Water Horizon so long after the incident?

I know this may sound wrong, but I am hoping for a sub-surface earthquake to heal the damage that BP has caused. It is the only power I can think of that can contain that amount of pressure and energy. It has done it for eons. So I have no doubt that it can contain it.

I just hope when the quake comes that it is not devastating, and people learn from it.

Methane hydrate extraction is a technology that should not be put to use for decades. The energy they contain is just too much for human kind to handle presently.

Kudos for this post!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18294120


^^^HAARP'S DADDY?!!^^^^

trying to add levity, but in all seriousness, you are insinuating the uptick in earthquakes is a "fix" for the methane that wants to come to the surface due to the tear caused by Deep Water Horizon?

Can I get a little more info here?
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Why then was a nuke proposed to stop the leak if this methane lattice was a concern?

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