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I have been a long time follower of conspiracy threads, and always enjoy a good Mason thread.

I have to ask, are you folks good only up to level 32?

When my stepson was born, he had cystic phybrosis that wasn't diagnosed for several months.

When they found it, they did several operations to try to correct the damage, the bill was over a quarter of a million dollars. This was 25 years ago.

When my future wife went to make payment options for this debt, she was told the bill was paid in full by the Mason's and Scottish Rite.

So what's up guys? It's time.
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So masons run hospitals that kill people every day. Prolly also caused the cystic fibrosis with one of their deadly vaccine programs.
During the dark ages the catholic church would feed people. It's a charitable organization.
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So masons run hospitals that kill people every day. Prolly also caused the cystic fibrosis with one of their deadly vaccine programs.
During the dark ages the catholic church would feed people. It's a charitable organization.
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No. They healed him. Got him running normal. They run hospitals that do miraculous things.

When they get to their 32's, it may get sketchy, but before then, they are wonderful human beings.
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Hey there! Its always nice to hear of such kind actions on behalf of the Craft. I am a 6th degree York Rite Mason myself!
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I have been a long time follower of conspiracy threads, and always enjoy a good Mason thread.

I have to ask, are you folks good only up to level 32?

When my stepson was born, he had cystic phybrosis that wasn't diagnosed for several months.

When they found it, they did several operations to try to correct the damage, the bill was over a quarter of a million dollars. This was 25 years ago.

When my future wife went to make payment options for this debt, she was told the bill was paid in full by the Mason's and Scottish Rite.

So what's up guys? It's time.
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Real mason here. First off you have to understand how the degree structure works. Non-masons obsess over the 32nd degree because they associate higher numbers with power or authority or rank. It is none of those things.

The highest degree in freemasonry is the 3rd degree in terms of power, rank, and authority. There is no other higher degree. There are degrees in SIDE ORDERS with HIGHER NUMBERS but those numbers are just to indicate the order the ceremonies go in.

It takes 6 months - 1 year to go through the 1st to 3rd degree. It takes a weekend to join a SIDE ORDER (note its a side order, this is important) and go to form 4th - 32nd degree. And thats just one side order. People never seem to talk about the other major side order because it doesnt number it degrees, but it offers degrees up to and including the Knights Templar.
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Hey there! Its always nice to hear of such kind actions on behalf of the Craft. I am a 6th degree York Rite Mason myself!
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A pleasure to meet you Sir.
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So masons run hospitals that kill people every day. Prolly also caused the cystic fibrosis with one of their deadly vaccine programs.
During the dark ages the catholic church would feed people. It's a charitable organization.
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No. They healed him. Got him running normal. They run hospitals that do miraculous things.

When they get to their 32's, it may get sketchy, but before then, they are wonderful human beings.
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Thread: Do most Satanists just suffer from low self-esteem???
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It's Halloween, the Mason's are currently busy doing their annual children sacrifices, I'm sure they will be on in the morning after a long rite, I mean night.
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So masons run hospitals that kill people every day. Prolly also caused the cystic fibrosis with one of their deadly vaccine programs.
During the dark ages the catholic church would feed people. It's a charitable organization.
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No. They healed him. Got him running normal. They run hospitals that do miraculous things.

When they get to their 32's, it may get sketchy, but before then, they are wonderful human beings.
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Thread: Do most Satanists just suffer from low self-esteem???
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They do. They can't help it.
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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i thought adonay and lucifer is the same being perhaps different aspects of the same being or different archetypes of the same being

perhaps archetypes or aspects that reside inside each one of us
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also i consider god to be a title, god is creator, so if you paint a picture or choose to have a cup of coffee you create and thus you are god
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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MORALS & DOGMA by Albert Pike (33rd Degree Mason and head of the Southern Masonic Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry)
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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i thought adonay and lucifer is the same being perhaps different aspects of the same being or different archetypes of the same being

perhaps archetypes or aspects that reside inside each one of us
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ADONAY is a name for Father of Jesus, not another name for lucifer.
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i met this young man in the mental hospital whos family had mason traditions, he wanted to be a high ranking mason, perhaps first join some local lodge, then go to a more remotely located lodge and after that another even more remotely located lodge in i think scotland or britain somewhere perhaps scottish rite or something like that

he tried to commit suicide by injecting nicotine from nicotine spray bottle but just went unconscious, he also enjoyed climbing high up in cellphone towers and just stand there having the feeling of being in control of his life wheter he would want to die or not

i like him and wish him the best
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The thing is, most people associate Mason's with evil and controlling the world via evil things. This is not true. Thanks for making a post that speaks volumes.

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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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God is God, and good is good. By their actions you will know them,... etc.
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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God is God, and good is good. By their actions you will know them,... etc.
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Many do good deeds, but they do it in their name and for their own glory. That is what Jesus called worker's of iniquity. They can spend alot of money and help alot of people, but if it's done in for their glory and not God's, in the end it will mean nothing.
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12361631


Look into the Taxil Hoax before merely seeing something your mind automatically associates with evil, and assuming it to be negative. [link to freemasonry.bcy.ca]
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"The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (sic) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?

Yes, LUCIFER IS GOD, and unfortunately Adonay is also god...
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the BELIEF IN LUCIFER, THE EQUAL OF ADONAY but Lucifer, God of Light and God of GOOD, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the GOD OF DARKNESS AND EVIL.”
(de Larive, A.C., La Femme et l'enfant dans la Franc, Maconnerei Universelle, Paris, 1889, p. 588)
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I love how you idiots are still quoting from the debunked Taxil Hoax. THE QUOTE DOES NOT EXIST - IT WAS MADE UP.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Many do good deeds, but they do it in their name and for their own glory. That is what Jesus called worker's of iniquity. They can spend alot of money and help alot of people, but if it's done in for their glory and not God's, in the end it will mean nothing.
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Not true. Most masonic charity is done in complete secrecy and the people who benefit don't even know who gave all that money except in some cases the law (taxes) require that information to be public.
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Many do good deeds, but they do it in their name and for their own glory. That is what Jesus called worker's of iniquity. They can spend alot of money and help alot of people, but if it's done in for their glory and not God's, in the end it will mean nothing.
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By their actions you know them, not judge them. God is here for all of us, it is up to Him.
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Many do good deeds, but they do it in their name and for their own glory. That is what Jesus called worker's of iniquity. They can spend alot of money and help alot of people, but if it's done in for their glory and not God's, in the end it will mean nothing.
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Not true. Most masonic charity is done in complete secrecy and the people who benefit don't even know who gave all that money except in some cases the law (taxes) require that information to be public.
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Right, like the Shriners Hospital down the street from me that has Shriners written all over it. Very secretive. Commercials from the same Hospital that repeats over and over how much they give and donate to charities.
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Many do good deeds, but they do it in their name and for their own glory. That is what Jesus called worker's of iniquity. They can spend alot of money and help alot of people, but if it's done in for their glory and not God's, in the end it will mean nothing.
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By their actions you know them, not judge them. God is here for all of us, it is up to Him.
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True, I try not to judge the person but the fruit to see if they are of God or not. And yes God is here for those who seek Him, those who seek ungodly thing's it say's the Lord turn's his face away from them.
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I'm guessing rentable by the quarter hour?
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When they get to their 32's, it may get sketchy, but before then, they are wonderful human beings.
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Wonderful human beings do not normally suddenly become evil.
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When they get to their 32's, it may get sketchy, but before then, they are wonderful human beings.
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Wonderful human beings do not normally suddenly become evil.
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True. Kinda the point of the whole thread.
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I wore my Shriners fez hat tonight out Trick or Treating with my nieces and nephew.
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I have been a long time follower of conspiracy threads, and always enjoy a good Mason thread.

I have to ask, are you folks good only up to level 32?

When my stepson was born, he had cystic phybrosis that wasn't diagnosed for several months.

When they found it, they did several operations to try to correct the damage, the bill was over a quarter of a million dollars. This was 25 years ago.

When my future wife went to make payment options for this debt, she was told the bill was paid in full by the Mason's and Scottish Rite.

So what's up guys? It's time.
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Real mason here. First off you have to understand how the degree structure works. Non-masons obsess over the 32nd degree because they associate higher numbers with power or authority or rank. It is none of those things.

The highest degree in freemasonry is the 3rd degree in terms of power, rank, and authority. There is no other higher degree. There are degrees in SIDE ORDERS with HIGHER NUMBERS but those numbers are just to indicate the order the ceremonies go in.

It takes 6 months - 1 year to go through the 1st to 3rd degree. It takes a weekend to join a SIDE ORDER (note its a side order, this is important) and go to form 4th - 32nd degree. And thats just one side order. People never seem to talk about the other major side order because it doesnt number it degrees, but it offers degrees up to and including the Knights Templar.
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Mason here. Great response. Good stuff.

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