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What Azazel and Semjaza Hath Wrought

 
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And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon 9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; 10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]

And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless 12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.
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1 From the days of the slaughter and destruction and death of the giants, from the souls of whose flesh the spirits, having gone forth, shall destroy without incurring judgement -thus shall they destroy until the day of the consummation, the great judgement in which the age shall be 2 consummated, over the Watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated." And now as to the watchers who have sent thee to intercede for them, who had been aforetime in heaven, (say 3 to them): "You have been in heaven, but all the mysteries had not yet been revealed to you, and you knew worthless ones, and these in the hardness of your hearts you have made known to the women, and through these mysteries women and men work much evil on earth." 4 Say to them therefore: " You have no peace."'
AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH
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Wait until they show up again!!
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I think they have...
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1 And after that the Head of Days repented and said: ' In vain have I destroyed all who dwell 2 on the earth.' And He sware by His great name: ' Henceforth I will not do so to all who dwell on the earth, and I will set a sign in the heaven: and this shall be a pledge of good faith between Me and them for ever, so long as heaven is above the earth. And this is in accordance with My command. 3 When I have desired to take hold of them by the hand of the angels on the day of tribulation and pain because of this, I will cause My chastisement and My wrath to abide upon them, saith 4 God, the Lord of Spirits. Ye mighty kings who dwell on the earth, ye shall have to behold Mine Elect One, how he sits on the throne of glory and judges Azazel, and all his associates, and all his hosts in the name of the Lord of Spirits.'
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5 And in those days the angels shall return
And hurl themselves to the east upon the Parthians and Medes:

They shall stir up the kings, so that a spirit of unrest shall come upon them,
And they shall rouse them from their thrones,

That they may break forth as lions from their lairs,
And as hungry wolves among their flocks.
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What happened to you, Azazel?

And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the 8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.'
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Wonder how these "aliens" are gonna try and deceive the world leaders this time?
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Look at my 2:35 post...
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And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves 12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is 13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and 14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all 15 generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because 16 they have wronged mankind.
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Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth' shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.

17 And then shall all the righteous escape(!),
And shall live till they beget thousands of children,
And all the days of their youth and their old age
Shall they complete in peace.
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18 And then shall the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and shall all be planted with trees and 19 be full of blessing. And all desirable trees shall be planted on it, and they shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon shall yield wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon each measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall yield 20 ten presses of oil. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression, and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness: and all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth 21 destroy from off the earth. And all the children of men shall become righteous, and all nations 22 shall offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship Me. And the earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin, and from all punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send (them) upon it from generation to generation and for ever.
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53357,
for them was hell created. not for man.

what's this from? have read it before...very familiar.
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Well, do you want to know the whole story, Sal?

A couple of nights ago I was drifting off to sleep and heard the word Azazel. I knew it was an angel, although this one was unfamiliar to me. So I googled angel names to see the list.

With all the names there was a reference to the documentation for that name. And next to Azazels name was the Book of Enoch. There is more to this story, but that's what happened recently.
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But yes, you get that too. Hell was not created for man.
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53357,
okay...Azazel is also in the old testyment...refering to the goat that was released in the wilderness.

book of enoch...have probably read bits and pieces here and there...hmmmm...lots on different angels...north/south/east/west... protecting countries etc.

but yes, i got that hell was not created for man.
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Hell was not created for man. This original story which needs to be understood properly to understand the end has been twisted to make man look like the guilty party, the receiver of wrath that has already been decreed. And yet in the end the angels will be used to deliver the pain of tribulation.

If you can understand and accept that, your judgement will melt away...
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You see the two trees in the Garden of E-den? The fruit of the tree that was forbidden to man was provided by the Giants, not a snakelike being :)
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hey, anyone has links??
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The quotes below are from "A Dictionary of Angels ~ including the fallen angels"
by Gustave Davidson. If you are interested in learning more about angels, I
recommend this book as a good reference guide. This book has the following
to say about the Watchers:

"A high order of angels called also the grigori. They never sleep - which is said
likewise of the irin (q.v.). Originally, according to The Book of Jubilees, the
watchers were sent by God to instruct the children of men, but they fell after
they descended to earth and started cohabiting with mortal women.... In
Enoch I there is mention of 7 watchers, and here the story is that they fell
because they failed to appear on time for certain tasks apportioned to them.
Some versions of rabbinic and cabalistic lore speak of good and evil watchers,
with the good watchers still dwelling in the 5th Heaven, the evil ones in the
3rd Heaven (a kind of Hell-in-Heaven realm). Chief among the good watchers
are Uriel, Raphael, Raguel, Michael, Zerachiel, Gabriel, Remiel; the evil ones
include Azazel, Shemyaza, Shamshiel, Kokabel, Sariel and Satanil.... "
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Of the Grigori, it is said: "In Jewish legendary lore, the grigori are a superior
order of angels in both the 2nd and 5th Heavens (depending on whether they
are the holy or unholy ones). They resemble men in appearance, but are taller
than giants, and are eternally silent. Ruling prince of the order is Salamiel
"Who rejected the Lord" [a.ka. Satanil, Samil, Satan, Seir, and Salmael]."
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AZAZEL (God strengthens)

In Enoch I, Azazel is one of the chiefs of
the 200 fallen angels.... Azazel "taught men
to fashion swords and shields" while
women learned from him"finery and the art
of beautifying the eyelids". He is the scape-
goat in rabbinic literature.... In the Zohar
...he is said to be chief of the order of bene
elim (otherwise ischim, lower angels,
"men-spirits".... According to the legend
in Islamic lore, when God commanded
the angels to worship Adam, Azazel
refused, contending, "Why should a son
of fire [an angel] fall down before a son
of clay [a mortal]?" Whereupon God
cast Azazel out of Heaven and changed
his name to Eblis.

Azazel is of the order of seraphim.
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The Beloved was heavily influenced by the writings contained in Enoch I. I have come to believe that the mark of the beast referred to in Revelation is a spiritual symbol indicating a bind with this group. One can consciously or unconsciously receive this mark. One can unconsciously receive it by participating with the angles, as it were, in the destruction.
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Interesting stuff here!

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I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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good post.. keep going.
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Ephesians 6:11-13 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)




11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
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chiptruth, The Book of Enoch is the first known writings to mention the return of the Son of God at the time of judgement. Read the epistle of Jude. This book influenced that writing.
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Here are references to the Elect as written in the Book of Enoch.

Chapter 45



1Parable the second, respecting these who deny the name of the habitation of the holy ones, and of the Lord of spirits.

2Heaven they shall not ascend, nor shall they come on the earth. This shall be the portion of sinners, who deny the name of the Lord of spirits, and who are thus reserved for the day of punishment and of affliction.

3In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory; and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations, while their spirits within them shall be strengthened, when they behold my Elect One, for those who have fled for protection to my holy and glorious name.

4In that day I will cause my Elect One to dwell in the midst of them; will change the face of heaven; will bless it, and illuminate it for ever.

5I will also change the face of the earth, will bless it; and cause those whom I have elected to dwell upon it. But those who have committed sin and iniquity shall not inhabit it, for I have marked their proceedings. My righteous ones will I satisfy with peace, placing them before me; but the condemnation of sinners shall draw near, that I may destroy them from the face of the earth.
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Semjaza is Billy Meir contact for Christ Sake!
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Hey that book of Enovh from which you quote as though you know something. I have two questions for you and a statement to make.

First question: Who is the author of that book and can you proove what you claim should you make a claim?

Second question: Why did God not have in included in the book he gave to us to know him?

Statement: The teaching that the "sons of god" were fallen angels, is false. Wht is ultimately is is Jewish fables.

A few verses to help you understand.

1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith:

1Ti 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

What you have to get your head around is the overwhelming number of Jewish fables Christs deciples had to contend with.

You mission on earth is to know and become like Jesus. You only other option is destruction and then the second death.

Stop chasing the truth in odd places. Every question you have is answered in Gods holy word - the bible. Read it. Pray God will give you the spirit of wisdom. If he does not his word will not have his meaning to it.

But you may ask, how do we know it is God's word or if it is not?

Glad you asked. God graciously provided his personal finger print to his word. Ever heard of the bible codes? Well did you ever wonder why God would do such a thing Two reasons why he did that. One was so he could fit everything from beginning to end into as little space as is possible and two was to conceal hsi secrets from people who are not his own. But you should also have noticed he released his secrets to us all now. and secondly so that we would then at this time have a sure fire method of finding his word and those of mere men. You see, mere men can not duplicate the code hidden in his word. Well no wonder since we are not he and we do not have his finger print.

If the books people mistakenly call the loast books of the bible were God's word then they too would be repleated with god's hidden codes. Guess what? Enoch was tested as were all of the other "lost" books and found to not contain Gods finger print. And yes, the new testament does in fact contain codes similar to those in the Torah albeit in a slightly different way.

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