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Two Causes Manifesting One Singular Effect, Tesla's 3 - 6 - 9, and The Singularity of 0

 
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Walter Russell - "Light does not travel. The light and heat which appear to come from the star or the sun has never left the star or the sun. That which man sees as light and feels as heat is the reproduced counterpart of the light and of the heat which is its cause."\
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About the Zero:

There are a few little tiny "jokes" about the reason that the zero card in the Tarot is The Fool (0), and there is "The Fool's Journey", which is symbolic of us meandering through (perceiving) The Universe for all of eternity, each card in sequence, basically as a lesson. The primary point being that "it" (The Universe) simply doesn't want to be forgotten. And "it" is always trying to convey that to everyone, but most people don't (or won't) notice it, or "get it." At least very often that is. ;)

I won't even go into the Universe card that much (it's the last one), but it is 21, which is 3. :P
Three being the triangle, the smallest representation of 2D, and also in 3D, the tetrahedron, and moving up to 4D, a hyperpyramid, or 4-simplex, or pentatope, or pentachoron, or whatever you want to call it, they are related to the pentagram (see CDT or "Causal Dynamical Triangulation", as they are getting close to understanding, and unifying quantum mechanics with "other things" which I will not mention.) Enter Pythagoras, phi, and all that other great sacred math and geometry.

Along with your 3, 6, 9: don't forget 7, and 11 (or is it 2, or two one's, or two letter "i's" (eyes? to see the illusion?) roman numeral "II" which is also two, etc.) Illusions. etc. It's "complicated." (but not really)

;)

Divide any other number than 7, by 7 (remember that "zero" doesn't exist) and you will end up with a number that has a decimal part that will never have 3, 6, or 9 in it.
It always has the same repeating decimal part in it:

1/7
0.142857142857...

Now watch this:

1 = The Magician (I), the Illusionist, the Trickster, but also a Creator
4 = The Emperor (IV), Structure, Law, and Order *
2 = The Priestess (II), Intuition and Dreams, the Moon **
8 = Adjustment (VIII), Balance and Fairness, The Scales
5 = The Hierophant (V), Spirit and "God" ***
7 = The Chariot (VII), Travel and The Holy Grail" and a most important number ****

Add those up: 1+4+2+8+5 = 20, which was formerly Judgement (XX), but that card is now The Aeon (XX). Which is a new beginning, and creativity. Go look it all up. ;)

* (But be careful as the "Law" of man is often perverted, and too restrictive of Free Will..which is the only thing you truly "have" which is directly tied to perception..)

** (You'll ask: "what about the Sun?" And I will tell you, but not now..)

*** (Also the "Number of Man".. Want to know why a five looks like a 5? Think half-circle and right angle, and why you have 5 fingers on your HAND, and five senses, etc., and 4 elements + 1 spirit = 5, etc., etc. I won't explain 5 + 4, but it is most important.)

**** (want to know why 777 is what is on slot machines? And why there is a book named 777? And James Bond vs. John Dee, who are both "007?" Also 3 (the divine) + 4 (the earth) = 7)

(I should write some of this into my Tarot thread in a way that is easier to understand.)


Back to the division by 7:
Also remember than 7 divided by 7 is 1, so even that is a bit of a joke. Think of it this way: how do you "divide" yourself, by yourself?

But then isn't that what the Universe is, or only can be? A division of itself? Then how could a division of something by itself (because there is nothing "else" but "it") result in anything other than "1" if it is divided? There you could even mention the old phrase: "We Are All ONE."

So are we not Fools then, but Magicians? ;)
Surely there are "some" Fools?

The Universe / The Universe = 1?

Maybe it really wasn't so divided after all. :P

So then think.. How can it truly be divided then?
If: 1 / 1 = 1, then how could there ever have been 2?
Two ones together is 11, which could be two, or eleven...

What is 11? The Lust card. ;) Lust and passion of life, and being, is what that is, but the message behind it is to "tame the inner beast." There is much more about all that.

So what is a primary "trick" of the illusion?

To not be "divided" at all, but created and then combined in unity and harmony. That is how you get the 2. There was never really any division at all, but unity through love is what makes the universe go around. :P

The card Fortune (X) is 10, and when you think of a Fortune, you think of money, right? That card isn't about money at all, really. But cycles. There is more.


What if it (the Universe) isn't even discrete "things" (atoms?) at all? Maybe those are illusions too! (see Buddhism and "Maya") ;) Also: ATOM / ADAM? There are hints.

We use the word AND to connect concepts in english, and "and" written backwards is DNA, which connects everything in biology. :P


An endless, infinite, rabbit hole of weirdness. I could go on all day explaining these things, but people simply don't usually want to listen, or they are too "busy." ;)

Busy "bees", and "B" is the first letter of the "original language", but that letter is actually written out and transliterated as "Pa", and some people used to call their father "Pa.." Interesting. ;)


Would you believe it if I told you that the Tarot deck (some of them, one of them?) contains all of the knowledge that anyone would ever need to know, and furthermore, that it is literally an unwritten book, containing even all past, present, and future history that literally writes itself between your very own fingertips? But I will tell you that if you don't, then it won't! But it can. And it doesn't even really need translation, because Art is the most important written "language" as it is symbolic. There is much, much, more..

These are some big secrets that nobody dares say.
 Quoting: AkashicRecord


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If 0 deosn't exist then neither does infinity since 0 and infinity are basically equal.
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If 0 deosn't exist then neither does infinity since 0 and infinity are basically equal.
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Yes, whether or not 0 is existent or not, infinity as it's described in this reality, does not exist.
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The Universe / The Universe = 1?

Maybe it really wasn't so divided after all. :P

So then think.. How can it truly be divided then?
If: 1 / 1 = 1, then how could there ever have been 2?
Two ones together is 11, which could be two, or eleven...

What is 11? The Lust card. ;) Lust and passion of life, and being, is what that is, but the message behind it is to "tame the inner beast." There is much more about all that.

So what is a primary "trick" of the illusion?

To not be "divided" at all, but created and then combined in unity and harmony. That is how you get the 2. There was never really any division at all, but unity through love is what makes the universe go around. :P


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Awesome AR...

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I was musing on something very similar yesterday...


Seems to me...that 3=1.

Or

1+1=1

With '1' being both the created 'effect' of combining the 1 and 1.

However, there are '3' pieces if you will, in the vesica piscis. The merged section and the spaces on both sides.


3=1 being one complete rotation around the Fibonacci spiral, before beginning the next...6,9

111111111

phi

vesicapisces

Just musing.


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In order to 'create' you need two causes interacting with each other.

It is thought that to create something you only need one cause; ie God.

But no, you need two causes that interact together. The two separate causes are 'synergistic', and through their synergistic interaction with each other, it creates a singular effect. This can be viewed by the number 3. 1 Cause and another 1 Cause manifests a 3rd, which is the singular effect of 1 Cause and another Cause interacting with each other.

Now, you have the material and non-material. Two sets of 3. (the 3 and the 6)

The number 0 really doesn't exist, but it can be related to the non-material (invisible to us) realm.
When discussing Tesla's 'knowing the universe by understanding 3,6,9, well that gets a little bit more in depth and originally comes from this quote by Tesla.

"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.”
-Tesla
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Well, Marko Rodin discovered a pattern inherent in the torus form which allows us to 'see' the 3,6,9 that Tesla was hinting at.

The 3,6,9 are singular effect points from two synergistic causes, as I showed above.

Then, perhaps, 3 and 6 that are singular effects can become another two causes that have a synergistic relationship with each other, creating the singular effect of 9...ie, creation.

Now, you can see how the numbers 1-9 are following the 2 causes = singular effect by understanding the 3,6,9 pattern.

This is going to get a little squirrel-ly. Well, maybe not. I'll put it simply.

0 does not exist in our reality. 0 cannot be because it cannot interact with anything, ever. There is nothing to interact with, therefor it cannot be a cause, and it cannot be an effect. You can imagine it as forever and always out of reach, as if you ever 'reached' it, you could never interact with it, as there is nothing there to interact with.

It is not that 0 is 'nothing'. It is that it doesn't even exist. I would call it a singularity that is impossible to interact with, but is the glue that holds it all together. Err...something like that. A form of Consciousness maybe? Perhaps it can be equated to Source. 1dunno1

It would be more of the transition point occurring between the synergistic causes. I once thought of it as the interaction point in the space between, but, there is no space between, it is ALL aether, even us, but we we are the manifested potential of aether.

The aether is everything!

Lets do a two dimensional visual exercise.

Take a square cloth. The square cloth is a 2 dimensional aether, not yet in motion. Pinch the center of it and twist. Wow! It suddenly became three dimensional and is moving, yet is still made up of the two dimensional cloth!

Imagine that happening within infinite layers and manifestations, all formed from the same cloth and able to 'form' itself into whatever form it wishes. Potential is the unmoving aether, the all of everything. Once potential goes in motion, it is being realized. We are the manifested potential of Source, of God, of aether.

Instead, we can use Sonoluminescence to describe this much more accurately. Holy crap, it is extremely similar! What a beautiful vision I just had! Incredible.

The bubble created from the vibrating electrically imbued fluid is the manifested potential of the liquid. We can SEE the bubble because of sound and light refraction, but imagine the liquid being pure and 'invisible. The only way we could see the liquid (potential aether) is to put in motion so that light refracts off of it.

In other words, we can only experience the aether by manifestation of and within the material. The aether in motion is manifested material reality. It is divine motive, realized.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


(this is crappy and unfinished but I just wanted to drop this) :P

About the Zero:

There are a few little tiny "jokes" about the reason that the zero card in the Tarot is The Fool (0), and there is "The Fool's Journey", which is symbolic of us meandering through (perceiving) The Universe for all of eternity, each card in sequence, basically as a lesson. The primary point being that "it" (The Universe) simply doesn't want to be forgotten. And "it" is always trying to convey that to everyone, but most people don't (or won't) notice it, or "get it." At least very often that is. ;)

I won't even go into the Universe card that much (it's the last one), but it is 21, which is 3. :P
Three being the triangle, the smallest representation of 2D, and also in 3D, the tetrahedron, and moving up to 4D, a hyperpyramid, or 4-simplex, or pentatope, or pentachoron, or whatever you want to call it, they are related to the pentagram (see CDT or "Causal Dynamical Triangulation", as they are getting close to understanding, and unifying quantum mechanics with "other things" which I will not mention.) Enter Pythagoras, phi, and all that other great sacred math and geometry.

Along with your 3, 6, 9: don't forget 7, and 11 (or is it 2, or two one's, or two letter "i's" (eyes? to see the illusion?) roman numeral "II" which is also two, etc.) Illusions. etc. It's "complicated." (but not really)

;)

Divide any other number than 7, by 7 (remember that "zero" doesn't exist) and you will end up with a number that has a decimal part that will never have 3, 6, or 9 in it.
It always has the same repeating decimal part in it:

1/7
0.142857142857...

Now watch this:

1 = The Magician (I), the Illusionist, the Trickster, but also a Creator
4 = The Emperor (IV), Structure, Law, and Order *
2 = The Priestess (II), Intuition and Dreams, the Moon **
8 = Adjustment (VIII), Balance and Fairness, The Scales
5 = The Hierophant (V), Spirit and "God" ***
7 = The Chariot (VII), Travel and The Holy Grail" and a most important number ****

Add those up: 1+4+2+8+5 = 20, which was formerly Judgement (XX), but that card is now The Aeon (XX). Which is a new beginning, and creativity. Go look it all up. ;)

* (But be careful as the "Law" of man is often perverted, and too restrictive of Free Will..which is the only thing you truly "have" which is directly tied to perception..)

** (You'll ask: "what about the Sun?" And I will tell you, but not now..)

*** (Also the "Number of Man".. Want to know why a five looks like a 5? Think half-circle and right angle, and why you have 5 fingers on your HAND, and five senses, etc., and 4 elements + 1 spirit = 5, etc., etc. I won't explain 5 + 4, but it is most important.)

**** (want to know why 777 is what is on slot machines? And why there is a book named 777? And James Bond vs. John Dee, who are both "007?" Also 3 (the divine) + 4 (the earth) = 7)

(I should write some of this into my Tarot thread in a way that is easier to understand.)


Back to the division by 7:
Also remember than 7 divided by 7 is 1, so even that is a bit of a joke. Think of it this way: how do you "divide" yourself, by yourself?

But then isn't that what the Universe is, or only can be? A division of itself? Then how could a division of something by itself (because there is nothing "else" but "it") result in anything other than "1" if it is divided? There you could even mention the old phrase: "We Are All ONE."

So are we not Fools then, but Magicians? ;)
Surely there are "some" Fools?

The Universe / The Universe = 1?

Maybe it really wasn't so divided after all. :P

So then think.. How can it truly be divided then?
If: 1 / 1 = 1, then how could there ever have been 2?
Two ones together is 11, which could be two, or eleven...

What is 11? The Lust card. ;) Lust and passion of life, and being, is what that is, but the message behind it is to "tame the inner beast." There is much more about all that.

So what is a primary "trick" of the illusion?

To not be "divided" at all, but created and then combined in unity and harmony. That is how you get the 2. There was never really any division at all, but unity through love is what makes the universe go around. :P

The card Fortune (X) is 10, and when you think of a Fortune, you think of money, right? That card isn't about money at all, really. But cycles. There is more.


What if it (the Universe) isn't even discrete "things" (atoms?) at all? Maybe those are illusions too! (see Buddhism and "Maya") ;) Also: ATOM / ADAM? There are hints.

We use the word AND to connect concepts in english, and "and" written backwards is DNA, which connects everything in biology. :P


An endless, infinite, rabbit hole of weirdness. I could go on all day explaining these things, but people simply don't usually want to listen, or they are too "busy." ;)

Busy "bees", and "B" is the first letter of the "original language", but that letter is actually written out and transliterated as "Pa", and some people used to call their father "Pa.." Interesting. ;)


Would you believe it if I told you that the Tarot deck (some of them, one of them?) contains all of the knowledge that anyone would ever need to know, and furthermore, that it is literally an unwritten book, containing even all past, present, and future history that literally writes itself between your very own fingertips? But I will tell you that if you don't, then it won't! But it can. And it doesn't even really need translation, because Art is the most important written "language" as it is symbolic. There is much, much, more..

These are some big secrets that nobody dares say.
 Quoting: AkashicRecord


Your response is very interesting in deed - check out what this post talks about it's a lot to read but check out what the Op says in response to a lot of the different questions posted.

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You're overthinking it, OP.

Nothing and Everything exist simultaneously.

This is difficult to grasp from our perspective because we are currently experiencing Time.

Let me illustrate, a little bit.

We are 3 dimensional. Length, width, and height, we shall call it. We like to believe that these things are finite... so we will start by discussing that. If you have a cube that is 1cm^3... what does that mean? The measurement itself needs a reference point... something that i is relative to. However, no matter what you try to make the reference point there will always be an infinite gradient of measurements possible. This is what we know as "fractions", essentially. Between 0-1 there is an infinite number of fractions. For example, if we look at an atom, you know that it is possible to measure 1/2 of the atom, or 1/4, or 1/8, or 1/16, etc etc. There is an infinite number of "smaller"(relative word) measurements that are possible. Now we know that, because there is the possibility of infinitely small measurements, there is likely an infinite LARGE measurement. That is to say that the universe/reality/everything is infinite in size... both "small" and "big".

Now let's move back a dimension. We'll cut away "height" and assume that there is only length and width now. As previously shown, we know that these two directions of measurement are infinite in scope. But what about their non-existent height? Technically, would they not have an infinitely small height due to it's nonexistence? There MUST be a corresponding element within 2 dimensional existence to account for the lack of height.

I propose that from OUR perspective we are "progressing" through time. This perspective is simply a result of our existing from a 3rd dimensional point of view, and in reality time itself is just another infinite measurement. I believe that the 2d equivalent to this would be some sort of progression through "height".

But it's all just a sort of illusion of consciousness because ALL dimensions are existing simultaneously.


As for your assumption that 0 does not exist... I completely disagree. Nothing, or zero, MUST exist in order for EVERYTHING to exist. It MUST exist because it acts as a counter-balance to existence... sort of like every action having an equal and opposite reaction from a physical standpoint. Everything in existence has an opposite of some sort. Sort of like two poles of the same magnet... they are COMPLETELY related, and yet opposite at the same time.

The universe is both nothing and everything all at the same time.
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You're overthinking it, OP.

Nothing and Everything exist simultaneously.

This is difficult to grasp from our perspective because we are currently experiencing Time.

Let me illustrate, a little bit.

We are 3 dimensional. Length, width, and height, we shall call it. We like to believe that these things are finite... so we will start by discussing that. If you have a cube that is 1cm^3... what does that mean? The measurement itself needs a reference point... something that i is relative to. However, no matter what you try to make the reference point there will always be an infinite gradient of measurements possible. This is what we know as "fractions", essentially. Between 0-1 there is an infinite number of fractions. For example, if we look at an atom, you know that it is possible to measure 1/2 of the atom, or 1/4, or 1/8, or 1/16, etc etc. There is an infinite number of "smaller"(relative word) measurements that are possible. Now we know that, because there is the possibility of infinitely small measurements, there is likely an infinite LARGE measurement. That is to say that the universe/reality/everything is infinite in size... both "small" and "big".

Now let's move back a dimension. We'll cut away "height" and assume that there is only length and width now. As previously shown, we know that these two directions of measurement are infinite in scope. But what about their non-existent height? Technically, would they not have an infinitely small height due to it's nonexistence? There MUST be a corresponding element within 2 dimensional existence to account for the lack of height.

I propose that from OUR perspective we are "progressing" through time. This perspective is simply a result of our existing from a 3rd dimensional point of view, and in reality time itself is just another infinite measurement. I believe that the 2d equivalent to this would be some sort of progression through "height".

But it's all just a sort of illusion of consciousness because ALL dimensions are existing simultaneously.


As for your assumption that 0 does not exist... I completely disagree. Nothing, or zero, MUST exist in order for EVERYTHING to exist. It MUST exist because it acts as a counter-balance to existence... sort of like every action having an equal and opposite reaction from a physical standpoint. Everything in existence has an opposite of some sort. Sort of like two poles of the same magnet... they are COMPLETELY related, and yet opposite at the same time.

The universe is both nothing and everything all at the same time.
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If everything must have an opposite reaction then what about illumanati, where is they're reaction, they have been doing this for who knows now?
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You're overthinking it, OP.

Nothing and Everything exist simultaneously.

This is difficult to grasp from our perspective because we are currently experiencing Time.

Let me illustrate, a little bit.

We are 3 dimensional. Length, width, and height, we shall call it. We like to believe that these things are finite... so we will start by discussing that. If you have a cube that is 1cm^3... what does that mean? The measurement itself needs a reference point... something that i is relative to. However, no matter what you try to make the reference point there will always be an infinite gradient of measurements possible. This is what we know as "fractions", essentially. Between 0-1 there is an infinite number of fractions. For example, if we look at an atom, you know that it is possible to measure 1/2 of the atom, or 1/4, or 1/8, or 1/16, etc etc. There is an infinite number of "smaller"(relative word) measurements that are possible. Now we know that, because there is the possibility of infinitely small measurements, there is likely an infinite LARGE measurement. That is to say that the universe/reality/everything is infinite in size... both "small" and "big".

Now let's move back a dimension. We'll cut away "height" and assume that there is only length and width now. As previously shown, we know that these two directions of measurement are infinite in scope. But what about their non-existent height? Technically, would they not have an infinitely small height due to it's nonexistence? There MUST be a corresponding element within 2 dimensional existence to account for the lack of height.

I propose that from OUR perspective we are "progressing" through time. This perspective is simply a result of our existing from a 3rd dimensional point of view, and in reality time itself is just another infinite measurement. I believe that the 2d equivalent to this would be some sort of progression through "height".

But it's all just a sort of illusion of consciousness because ALL dimensions are existing simultaneously.


As for your assumption that 0 does not exist... I completely disagree. Nothing, or zero, MUST exist in order for EVERYTHING to exist. It MUST exist because it acts as a counter-balance to existence... sort of like every action having an equal and opposite reaction from a physical standpoint. Everything in existence has an opposite of some sort. Sort of like two poles of the same magnet... they are COMPLETELY related, and yet opposite at the same time.

The universe is both nothing and everything all at the same time.
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If everything must have an opposite reaction then what about illumanati, where is they're reaction, they have been doing this for who knows now?
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The people.

You and I.

Anyone seeking the Truth.

Those who serve others rather than themselves.

Illuminati are simply a group of people who understand much about reality and use this knowledge to pursue self-gratification and self-service. That is their path... something that many of us refer to as "evil".

Those of us who pursue knowledge and understanding in order to help other people are the opposite of them. We are on a path towards service to others, or what many of us refer to as "good".
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You're overthinking it, OP.

Nothing and Everything exist simultaneously.

This is difficult to grasp from our perspective because we are currently experiencing Time.

Let me illustrate, a little bit.

We are 3 dimensional. Length, width, and height, we shall call it. We like to believe that these things are finite... so we will start by discussing that. If you have a cube that is 1cm^3... what does that mean? The measurement itself needs a reference point... something that i is relative to. However, no matter what you try to make the reference point there will always be an infinite gradient of measurements possible. This is what we know as "fractions", essentially. Between 0-1 there is an infinite number of fractions. For example, if we look at an atom, you know that it is possible to measure 1/2 of the atom, or 1/4, or 1/8, or 1/16, etc etc. There is an infinite number of "smaller"(relative word) measurements that are possible. Now we know that, because there is the possibility of infinitely small measurements, there is likely an infinite LARGE measurement. That is to say that the universe/reality/everything is infinite in size... both "small" and "big".

Now let's move back a dimension. We'll cut away "height" and assume that there is only length and width now. As previously shown, we know that these two directions of measurement are infinite in scope. But what about their non-existent height? Technically, would they not have an infinitely small height due to it's nonexistence? There MUST be a corresponding element within 2 dimensional existence to account for the lack of height.

I propose that from OUR perspective we are "progressing" through time. This perspective is simply a result of our existing from a 3rd dimensional point of view, and in reality time itself is just another infinite measurement. I believe that the 2d equivalent to this would be some sort of progression through "height".

But it's all just a sort of illusion of consciousness because ALL dimensions are existing simultaneously.


As for your assumption that 0 does not exist... I completely disagree. Nothing, or zero, MUST exist in order for EVERYTHING to exist. It MUST exist because it acts as a counter-balance to existence... sort of like every action having an equal and opposite reaction from a physical standpoint. Everything in existence has an opposite of some sort. Sort of like two poles of the same magnet... they are COMPLETELY related, and yet opposite at the same time.

The universe is both nothing and everything all at the same time.
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If everything must have an opposite reaction then what about illumanati, where is they're reaction, they have been doing this for who knows now?
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The people.

You and I.

Anyone seeking the Truth.

Those who serve others rather than themselves.

Illuminati are simply a group of people who understand much about reality and use this knowledge to pursue self-gratification and self-service. That is their path... something that many of us refer to as "evil".

Those of us who pursue knowledge and understanding in order to help other people are the opposite of them. We are on a path towards service to others, or what many of us refer to as "good".
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Given that notion and including Karma, we should've had them beat already then, everyone knows Karma compounds the longer you acquire it.

I would hardly call that equal.
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“Against this nobody...everything they do, for him, has already occured and nothing they do can be successful because it has already been defeated.”




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*cough* Testing complete I assume?
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Lmao, listen, I'm just surpised as you are, you don't think I'm shittting bricks right now? lol
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Where is that picture with that cat that says "I used to be normal till I came here" lol
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You're overthinking it, OP.

Nothing and Everything exist simultaneously.

This is difficult to grasp from our perspective because we are currently experiencing Time.

Let me illustrate, a little bit.

We are 3 dimensional. Length, width, and height, we shall call it. We like to believe that these things are finite... so we will start by discussing that. If you have a cube that is 1cm^3... what does that mean? The measurement itself needs a reference point... something that i is relative to. However, no matter what you try to make the reference point there will always be an infinite gradient of measurements possible. This is what we know as "fractions", essentially. Between 0-1 there is an infinite number of fractions. For example, if we look at an atom, you know that it is possible to measure 1/2 of the atom, or 1/4, or 1/8, or 1/16, etc etc. There is an infinite number of "smaller"(relative word) measurements that are possible. Now we know that, because there is the possibility of infinitely small measurements, there is likely an infinite LARGE measurement. That is to say that the universe/reality/everything is infinite in size... both "small" and "big".

Now let's move back a dimension. We'll cut away "height" and assume that there is only length and width now. As previously shown, we know that these two directions of measurement are infinite in scope. But what about their non-existent height? Technically, would they not have an infinitely small height due to it's nonexistence? There MUST be a corresponding element within 2 dimensional existence to account for the lack of height.

I propose that from OUR perspective we are "progressing" through time. This perspective is simply a result of our existing from a 3rd dimensional point of view, and in reality time itself is just another infinite measurement. I believe that the 2d equivalent to this would be some sort of progression through "height".

But it's all just a sort of illusion of consciousness because ALL dimensions are existing simultaneously.


As for your assumption that 0 does not exist... I completely disagree. Nothing, or zero, MUST exist in order for EVERYTHING to exist. It MUST exist because it acts as a counter-balance to existence... sort of like every action having an equal and opposite reaction from a physical standpoint. Everything in existence has an opposite of some sort. Sort of like two poles of the same magnet... they are COMPLETELY related, and yet opposite at the same time.

The universe is both nothing and everything all at the same time.
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If everything must have an opposite reaction then what about illumanati, where is they're reaction, they have been doing this for who knows now?
 Quoting: Crackerskill

The people.

You and I.

Anyone seeking the Truth.

Those who serve others rather than themselves.

Illuminati are simply a group of people who understand much about reality and use this knowledge to pursue self-gratification and self-service. That is their path... something that many of us refer to as "evil".

Those of us who pursue knowledge and understanding in order to help other people are the opposite of them. We are on a path towards service to others, or what many of us refer to as "good".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15876775


Given that notion and including Karma, we should've had them beat already then, everyone knows Karma compounds the longer you acquire it.

I would hardly call that equal.
 Quoting: Crackerskill

Karma is far too complex for you to make such assumptions.

Illuminati are good at getting OTHER people to do their dirty work.

Also... why do you assume that we will "beat" them in this dimension? Why do you assume that the story ends here?

There is much more to reality than what you can see, touch, smell, hear, and smell.

Perhaps the "hell" that we hear about in the Bible is referring to the next stage of life for those on a path of self-service? And "heaven" is where those of us helping others are going to go? Maybe the bad karma that these negative beings accumulated here will be paid off in kind in the next stage of existence?

No one knows.
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If everything must have an opposite reaction then what about illumanati, where is they're reaction, they have been doing this for who knows now?
 Quoting: Crackerskill

The people.

You and I.

Anyone seeking the Truth.

Those who serve others rather than themselves.

Illuminati are simply a group of people who understand much about reality and use this knowledge to pursue self-gratification and self-service. That is their path... something that many of us refer to as "evil".

Those of us who pursue knowledge and understanding in order to help other people are the opposite of them. We are on a path towards service to others, or what many of us refer to as "good".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15876775


Given that notion and including Karma, we should've had them beat already then, everyone knows Karma compounds the longer you acquire it.

I would hardly call that equal.
 Quoting: Crackerskill

Karma is far too complex for you to make such assumptions.

Illuminati are good at getting OTHER people to do their dirty work.

Also... why do you assume that we will "beat" them in this dimension? Why do you assume that the story ends here?

There is much more to reality than what you can see, touch, smell, hear, and smell.

Perhaps the "hell" that we hear about in the Bible is referring to the next stage of life for those on a path of self-service? And "heaven" is where those of us helping others are going to go? Maybe the bad karma that these negative beings accumulated here will be paid off in kind in the next stage of existence?

No one knows.
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You're assuming now, I never said we'd beat them here, Self service? I'm laying myself on the tracks for you.
The way I see it, if we get enough people through the system as described in this thread, then sooner we can banish all of them....WHy do you think we keep coming back ehre? FOr shits an giggles? YOu think it's fun doing this stuff?

I mean some people may be laughing their ass off at me right now but all I can do is relate what I'm feeling
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beat whom at what?
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Walter Russell - "Light does not travel. The light and heat which appear to come from the star or the sun has never left the star or the sun. That which man sees as light and feels as heat is the reproduced counterpart of the light and of the heat which is its cause."\
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Thread: Complexity of Influence - and Light that Does not Travel - Toroidal Manifestation
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could it be that we sense the cause (light and heat) and react to it from our dna programming?
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Ya know what, as the MODS of this site to pull up my thread history I'm going to bed.

Reminds me of this one post I saw here, "when their really confronted with spirituality they run for the hills"

Forgive me, I don't remember you're name.

Peace.hf
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The people.

You and I.

Anyone seeking the Truth.

Those who serve others rather than themselves.

Illuminati are simply a group of people who understand much about reality and use this knowledge to pursue self-gratification and self-service. That is their path... something that many of us refer to as "evil".

Those of us who pursue knowledge and understanding in order to help other people are the opposite of them. We are on a path towards service to others, or what many of us refer to as "good".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15876775


Given that notion and including Karma, we should've had them beat already then, everyone knows Karma compounds the longer you acquire it.

I would hardly call that equal.
 Quoting: Crackerskill

Karma is far too complex for you to make such assumptions.

Illuminati are good at getting OTHER people to do their dirty work.

Also... why do you assume that we will "beat" them in this dimension? Why do you assume that the story ends here?

There is much more to reality than what you can see, touch, smell, hear, and smell.

Perhaps the "hell" that we hear about in the Bible is referring to the next stage of life for those on a path of self-service? And "heaven" is where those of us helping others are going to go? Maybe the bad karma that these negative beings accumulated here will be paid off in kind in the next stage of existence?

No one knows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15876775


You're assuming now, I never said we'd beat them here, Self service? I'm laying myself on the tracks for you.
The way I see it, if we get enough people through the system as described in this thread, then sooner we can banish all of them....WHy do you think we keep coming back ehre? FOr shits an giggles? YOu think it's fun doing this stuff?

I mean some people may be laughing their ass off at me right now but all I can do is relate what I'm feeling
 Quoting: Crackerskill

One day you'll understand that this isn't about "beating" anyone.

If everyone is One with the universe, and the universe is One with everyone, then who exactly are you "beating" other than yourself?
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Given that notion and including Karma, we should've had them beat already then, everyone knows Karma compounds the longer you acquire it.

I would hardly call that equal.
 Quoting: Crackerskill

Karma is far too complex for you to make such assumptions.

Illuminati are good at getting OTHER people to do their dirty work.

Also... why do you assume that we will "beat" them in this dimension? Why do you assume that the story ends here?

There is much more to reality than what you can see, touch, smell, hear, and smell.

Perhaps the "hell" that we hear about in the Bible is referring to the next stage of life for those on a path of self-service? And "heaven" is where those of us helping others are going to go? Maybe the bad karma that these negative beings accumulated here will be paid off in kind in the next stage of existence?

No one knows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15876775


You're assuming now, I never said we'd beat them here, Self service? I'm laying myself on the tracks for you.
The way I see it, if we get enough people through the system as described in this thread, then sooner we can banish all of them....WHy do you think we keep coming back ehre? FOr shits an giggles? YOu think it's fun doing this stuff?

I mean some people may be laughing their ass off at me right now but all I can do is relate what I'm feeling
 Quoting: Crackerskill

One day you'll understand that this isn't about "beating" anyone.

If everyone is One with the universe, and the universe is One with everyone, then who exactly are you "beating" other than yourself?
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On that note, isn't it funny that many creation myths have that as a basis: lonely gods firing off 'primordial clay' everywhere and having man pop up.
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If the people without electricity from the storm had downloaded this to a laptop they could meditate on it these days.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
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Lmao, listen, I'm just surpised as you are, you don't think I'm shittting bricks right now? lol
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Why would you be shitting bricks, Crackerskill?
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Lmao, listen, I'm just surpised as you are, you don't think I'm shittting bricks right now? lol
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Why would you be shitting bricks, Crackerskill?
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Lol, imagine yourself in my predicament.
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Lmao, listen, I'm just surpised as you are, you don't think I'm shittting bricks right now? lol
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Why would you be shitting bricks, Crackerskill?
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Lol, imagine yourself in my predicament.
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What predicament would that be? Are you grounded or something?

lol

j/k
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Damn fine post AkashicRecord!
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Thank you so much.

It is so complex, yet so simple and easy to follow that it will look crazy. :P

I need to do more writing and organizing of it all. All secrets are coming out, and I want nothing in return. :P (pun not intended)

Note: add your 3, 6, 9, or just your 3 and 6; it's 9 either way.

The Empress (III) and the Lovers (VI)..

The "Great Mother" (you could even say Mother Nature) creating beautiful life, united together in Love, pointing to The Hermit (IX) for true realization.

I've said much about that important card.. Add him (9) to any number, and it is the same number.

All numbers are infinite, but there are only 9. There is a movie called "The Nines" and you may enjoy it. ;)
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thank you!
+++ with a bunny hat +++
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