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Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,

 
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Okay, back from my latest excursion around Brooklyn.

I started paying close attention to NY harbor traffic on the Saturday before the storm arrived (9 days ago) when I noticed boats, yachts, cruise ships, you name it…leaving NYC. Never seen anything like that. By Sunday night it was “bumper to bumper”…everybody was high-tailing it out to sea. So I’m figuring they’ll prolly start doing that again by Tuesday.

Noticed something strange…hardly any food trucks out there making deliveries. Only saw maybe a dozen during a three hour period. But this is the odd part…all of them except for one were from same area of Brooklyn. The food trucks all have their home address painted on them and they were all from either the same zip code that they were delivering in or from neighboring zip codes. So that indicates that it’s still only local food deliveries that are supplying the stores. And that they’re still not letting food trucks into the City.

The only food truck that was NOT local was a huge diary truck full of milk only that came from Perth Amboy, NJ. I watched it for awhile and it seemed to be stopping at the small bodegas and grocery stores in the area.

Overall inventory in the more affluent areas was much better then in the less affluent areas. Affluent areas had much more stock and variety on the shelves. Some of the grocery stores and bodegas in the less affluent (working poor) neighborhoods were closed cause their shelves were bare. Oh yes, and the Mayor is telling everyone to “stock-up” for the next storm…must be nice to be a multi-billionaire.
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Damn Brooklyn AC you are on it!

Perth Amboy has seen no ships or Trains for 10 days now. Be interetsing to see if those trucks keep coming. I have been hearing from friends in Jersey of a similar situation with the less affluent stores. I cannot imagine what it might be like in Camden or Newark right now.

The ship that docked in Bayonne late this afternoon may bring things over to your area.

Your Mayor reminds me of LT Dyke from Band of Brothers. If anyone has seen that Mini Series than you know what I mean. Almost seems like Cuomo, who is trying to get things done, needs to relieve Bloomberg of command and bring in Captain Spears (AKA. Rudy)

By the way have you heard people saying they wish Guiliani was still Mayor after all of this?
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Govenor Cuomo is PISSED on tv right now...raising hell re: utility companies. Wants to review all of them involved...said they are not "God given monopolies".

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Govenor Cuomo is PISSED on tv right now...raising hell re: utility companies. Wants to review all of them involved...said they are not "God given monopolies".

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Good man. I think the response on your side has been terrible. I am gaining a lot more respect for Cuomo. He defintely seems to be grabbing the bull by the horns while Bloomberg has tea Uptown trying to figure out how to keep his 16oz max Soda plan in place with all of this going on.
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NY HARBOR UPDATE:

All seems to be done for the day now that it is dark.

19 total Container Ships Docked with 3 unloading and leaving Port.

75,633 TEUs extimate and assuming they were all full.

Would take roughly 37,816 trucks to move that new supply.

***Made an error in earlier math on trucks needed. Now corrected for Trucks. Sorry, a little brain strain today***

Either way it is a difficult task.

There are 3 Container ships in the staging area off Long Island and 1 other within range.

Trains are still Cut Off

[link to shipcsx.com]

[link to www.nscorp.com]

We are now heading into Day 11 with no Trains.

There were no Tankers (Oil or Other) that docked today and 1 left the harbor ARTIC EXPRESS and went back to the staging area off of Long Island. 1 More tanker is within Range.

Brooklyn AC with some great info on the Food situation.
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Oil and Fuel Spills:

"About 7,700 gallons of fuel spilled from Phillips 66's 238,000 barrels-per-day Bayway refinery in Linden, N.J"

"The Coast Guard also said it had recovered 780,000 gallons of an oil-water mixture from Kinder Morgan's Perth Amboy, New Jersey"

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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i think u all have done a great job on this thread. glad to hear the info on these ships. good to keep ppl informed so WE ALL can prepare ahead of the next crisis.MY THANKS GOES OUT TO ALL OF YA'S.
that being said,can i get a total on the normal b4 sandy shipping<a total of cargo in average/day>and a total since the storm. b nice if it was broke down into food/cargo boxcars, and fuel.am curious to see how much food,cargo,and fuel hasnt been unloaded as opposed to what shoulda been.
prediction says what we have a wk b4 the rest of the east coast starts to see shortages???
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Hey WaterLily. Good call on the Fuel Relief fund.

[link to www.weather.com]
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i think u all have done a great job on this thread. glad to hear the info on these ships. good to keep ppl informed so WE ALL can prepare ahead of the next crisis.MY THANKS GOES OUT TO ALL OF YA'S.
that being said,can i get a total on the normal b4 sandy shipping<a total of cargo in average/day>and a total since the storm. b nice if it was broke down into food/cargo boxcars, and fuel.am curious to see how much food,cargo,and fuel hasnt been unloaded as opposed to what shoulda been.
prediction says what we have a wk b4 the rest of the east coast starts to see shortages???
thx
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Hi Jazz. Thanks for the compliments. It really does mean a lot to us all.

Give me some time and I will try and put together a quick post on those questions. I think I have some of those numbers in earlier posts so I will get them together.

I will say that the amount of Fuel appears to be Zero as no Tankers have docked, though the Coloniel Pipeline is open but also, it is impossible to tell what is on board all of these ships and I do not believe it is publically available information.

All I can do is give the big picture as comparison to pre storm.

Give me a little while though. I am also working on Rail Deliveries. What is normal flow and what types of products are delivered.
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OK Here is an overview of the situation from what information has been collected. This is the big picture as it is virtually impossible to know the following from public information:

1. What products are on board
2. How much of a product is on board.

NY HARBOR NORMAL Volume:

IMPORTS:


A TEU is a 20ft Container Equivalent

Cargo by Ship: 5,500,000 TEUs/year
Cargo by Train: 422,144 Containers (Have not found TEUs)

Guess 60% are 40ft containers and 40% are 20ft
So 253,286 40ft would be 126,643 TEUs
And 20fts would be 168,857 TEUs

Total By Train = 295,500 TEUs/year

I am using really simple averages for simplicity.

Cargo by Ship = 15,068 TEUs/day (365 day year)
Cargo by Train = 809 TEUs/day

Total = 15,877

The Docks were closed for 9 Days so a back up of 135,612 TEUs

As of Today AT BEST roughly 75,633 TEUs delivered today.

This assumes all ships were full which is not likely the case.

Trains have been down for 10 days now

8090 TEUs not delivered

Nothing in from the Trains yet.

It looks like at this moment there are 3 Container ships before The Nor'Easter Hits

Oil/Fuel Tankers next post
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OIL AND FUEL

1. Prior to the Storm there was a 23 day supply of gas at normal usage.
2. NY Harbor brings in 900,000 barrels/day prior to Sandy

What was reported in the news is as follows:

1. The Pipelines (Coloniel and other) is 15% of the supply and was down
2. 2 Refineries that were down is 23% of the supply
3. Port of NY is Closed. 20% of the Supply

So initially the total Gas Supply was down a very large amount.

The entire TriState Area (NJ, CT and ALL of NY State)
30,297,994gal/day

There are lines that come to NOrthwest NY and some comes in through Boston.

1. The Pipelines are Open so add back 15% supply
2. 2 Refineries are still down at the moment
3. No Tankers have docked as we have seen it

So in theory, the incoming supply is down 43% at the moment.

AS I AM WRITING THIS TWO TANKERS ARE MOVING INTO THE HARBOR

As for the Tankers waiting to dock there is just no way to tell what is on board and how much. They carry Crude Oil, Gasoline, Other Petroleum Products, Chemicals, etc.

My estimation this morning of the BEST CASE of how much is on board the ships waiting was 229,005,000 gallons of goo. This is assuming they are full which is not likely the case.
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PREDICTION

The supply will be wavy at best for food and gas. And really that is all that I am thinking about rather than furniture or toys.

Now that you have Power coming back on more people will be out and about consuming more fuel and food. This Nor'Easter is really going to hider the Harbor again whcih sucks.

The Trains are concerning because of Food imports. Yes there is a lot that comes in on trucks but I did look at a list of Food Warehouses and most are near Perth Amboy, Port Elizabeth, Port Newark and Bayonne. This is where the trains come in to unload.

Also, Planes are partially hindered because of the fuel shortage so flying things in is a little dicey.

If it were me in the area I would be doing the opposite of what the crowds are doing. Everyone rushing for gas, go get food. Everyone going for food, go get gas. Stay off sequence and stay away from the crowds. tha's just me though.

I hope that helps. It helped me too actually.
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Hey WaterLily. Good call on the Fuel Relief fund.

[link to www.weather.com]
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You are welcome. They seem to be the kind of people we need a lot more of, don't they?

I still think we need Chinooks picking up the tanker trucks and hauling them on over to Staten Island and taking them back when they are unloaded.
(grumble)
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PREDICTION

The supply will be wavy at best for food and gas. And really that is all that I am thinking about rather than furniture or toys.

Now that you have Power coming back on more people will be out and about consuming more fuel and food. This Nor'Easter is really going to hider the Harbor again whcih sucks.

The Trains are concerning because of Food imports. Yes there is a lot that comes in on trucks but I did look at a list of Food Warehouses and most are near Perth Amboy, Port Elizabeth, Port Newark and Bayonne. This is where the trains come in to unload.

Also, Planes are partially hindered because of the fuel shortage so flying things in is a little dicey.

If it were me in the area I would be doing the opposite of what the crowds are doing. Everyone rushing for gas, go get food. Everyone going for food, go get gas. Stay off sequence and stay away from the crowds. tha's just me though.

I hope that helps. It helped me too actually.
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Add to that. For the rest of the East Coast I think you are looking at things other than Food and Fuel. Mainly what comes off the containers so Furniture, Clothes, etc., but I do not think it is going to be out of control. We will see what people report in. It is so complex it is hard to see.

Philly is also bringing in Fuel too so that is helping as well. A lot of the tankers were diverted there in the past few days so it is not lost, just delayed. Wavy.
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Hey WaterLily. Good call on the Fuel Relief fund.

[link to www.weather.com]
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You are welcome. They seem to be the kind of people we need a lot more of, don't they?

I still think we need Chinooks picking up the tanker trucks and hauling them on over to Staten Island and taking them back when they are unloaded.
(grumble)
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Never know. They are getting more involved over in Staten Island and the Rockaways so we will see.
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OK Here is an overview of the situation from what information has been collected. This is the big picture as it is virtually impossible to know the following from public information:

1. What products are on board
2. How much of a product is on board.

NY HARBOR NORMAL Volume:

IMPORTS:


A TEU is a 20ft Container Equivalent

Cargo by Ship: 5,500,000 TEUs/year
Cargo by Train: 422,144 Containers (Have not found TEUs)

Guess 60% are 40ft containers and 40% are 20ft
So 253,286 40ft would be 126,643 TEUs
And 20fts would be 168,857 TEUs

Total By Train = 295,500 TEUs/year

I am using really simple averages for simplicity.

Cargo by Ship = 15,068 TEUs/day (365 day year)
Cargo by Train = 809 TEUs/day

Total = 15,877

The Docks were closed for 9 Days so a back up of 135,612 TEUs

As of Today AT BEST roughly 75,633 TEUs delivered today.

This assumes all ships were full which is not likely the case.

Trains have been down for 10 days now

8090 TEUs not delivered

Nothing in from the Trains yet.

It looks like at this moment there are 3 Container ships before The Nor'Easter Hits

Oil/Fuel Tankers next post
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25


Good catch on the TEU math! I hope they get those container ships unloaded... Bummer about the trains.

A couple of years ago our company held a training session at a West coast terminal. The manager there at the fleet hdq told us that our US container ports are all woefully behind the times. He said that in Europe they do all their unloading with equipment, literally no humans involved. He told us that it is so much faster and more efficient, a ship is in and out, zip zip. But we can't get that at our ports here because of the you-know-who's. Of course, a mechanized terminal would not have as many jobs, I guess it is give and take.

One thing that was really an unforgettable experience is that after the class was over, we got to go up into a big harbor crane. Unfortunately there were no containers to be unloaded, but the operator showed us how the crane works and ran it up and down a couple of times to show us how the cabling works. There are huge looms of cable up there in big loops, impressive. Ports are very interesting places. :-)
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OK Here is an overview of the situation from what information has been collected. This is the big picture as it is virtually impossible to know the following from public information:

1. What products are on board
2. How much of a product is on board.

NY HARBOR NORMAL Volume:

IMPORTS:


A TEU is a 20ft Container Equivalent

Cargo by Ship: 5,500,000 TEUs/year
Cargo by Train: 422,144 Containers (Have not found TEUs)

Guess 60% are 40ft containers and 40% are 20ft
So 253,286 40ft would be 126,643 TEUs
And 20fts would be 168,857 TEUs

Total By Train = 295,500 TEUs/year

I am using really simple averages for simplicity.

Cargo by Ship = 15,068 TEUs/day (365 day year)
Cargo by Train = 809 TEUs/day

Total = 15,877

The Docks were closed for 9 Days so a back up of 135,612 TEUs

As of Today AT BEST roughly 75,633 TEUs delivered today.

This assumes all ships were full which is not likely the case.

Trains have been down for 10 days now

8090 TEUs not delivered

Nothing in from the Trains yet.

It looks like at this moment there are 3 Container ships before The Nor'Easter Hits

Oil/Fuel Tankers next post
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25


Good catch on the TEU math! I hope they get those container ships unloaded... Bummer about the trains.

A couple of years ago our company held a training session at a West coast terminal. The manager there at the fleet hdq told us that our US container ports are all woefully behind the times. He said that in Europe they do all their unloading with equipment, literally no humans involved. He told us that it is so much faster and more efficient, a ship is in and out, zip zip. But we can't get that at our ports here because of the you-know-who's. Of course, a mechanized terminal would not have as many jobs, I guess it is give and take.

One thing that was really an unforgettable experience is that after the class was over, we got to go up into a big harbor crane. Unfortunately there were no containers to be unloaded, but the operator showed us how the crane works and ran it up and down a couple of times to show us how the cabling works. There are huge looms of cable up there in big loops, impressive. Ports are very interesting places. :-)
 Quoting: waterlily


Tha must have been an awesome experience. I will say that this is a very cool experience just seeing how everything moves around and all. It is really fascinating. One of the things that made me concerned about the situation was playing Global Crisis 2020(PC Games). Holy Crap is that complex. One little thing in the supply is missing and your country comes to a halt.

As for the automated ports, I wonder if in fact in this situation it is a good thing that we have actual man power at our docks as they are hands on with the clean up and everything. Amazing people at those docks right now. I think it would be awesome to run one of those cranes!
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Oil tanker MERCINI LADY anchored up just past the Verrazano Bridge. Not headed to Dock.

That is like 6 times now that they stop just past the bridge

SIRA is on its way in as well.

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MAERSK MISUMI Oil Products tanker, which had been in the Harbor for 5 days is now turning and heading out to sea...

Destination Houston, TX.

I don't think SIRA is going to the Docks either.

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Looking at the weather predictions of this Nor'Easter I think we can expect to see Condition "Zulu" in effect late afternoon/early evening tomorrow(Tuesday) meaning 12 hours to Gale force winds.

Two systems are coming togther on this one it looks like.

[link to www.weather.com]
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thank u. i am ny state on pa border.bout an hour west of binghamton. gf said walmart had raised price of coffee n seemed understocked. i do know a wharehouse/distirbutor of walmart is in richmond, ship via norfolk. but rather that ships north i doubt.my concern is :now the government has reason to impose obamama's martial FEMA laws. which we all know basically would make him a dictator. ppl without food will b easily led. "go here,we have food"= FEMA CAMP IS WAITING FOR U.
info much appreiciated.
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8 oil tankers still mored in Lower Delaware Bay. Was 9 this afternoon. 1 set sail and wentup the Delaware Bay, now near the Del Mem Bridge
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Oil tankers mored in lower Delaware Bay is now down to 7. One of the 8 mored oil tankers (ALMI GLOBE) is now heading up the Delaware Bay. Destination: Marcus Hook (refinerie)

Just to make sure (confirm) marinetraffic.com is giving out legit info i drove to the Delaware Bay shore and spotted the tanker with my own eyes (Confirmed). I live 5 miles away from Delaware bay
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UPDATE: Delaware Bay/River & Philadelphia
No Change Since Last Report


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TANKER SHIPS (Anchored/Moored) @ Philadelphia and South of Philadelphia in the Delaware River @ NJ/PA (Refineries)
Please Note: About half of these ships have been @ port since the storm even though their ETA's says otherwise

SHIP NAME: KING EVEREST
Flag: Marshall Is
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 258&#730;
Length x Breadth: 181 m X 26 m
Draught: 9.2 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-10-24 10:00

SHIP NAME: ZHONGJI NO1
Flag: Hongkong
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 339&#730;
Length x Breadth: 185 m X 32 m
Draught: 9.7 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-10-27 02:00

SHIP NAME: MAERSK HARMONY
Flag: Singapore
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 164&#730;
Length x Breadth: 160 m X 26 m
Draught: 8.6 m
Destination: MARCUS HOOK
ETA: 2012-11-02 10:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: CHEMICAL PIONEER
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 170&#730;
Length x Breadth: 209 m X 28 m
Draught: 10.9 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-04 16:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: CHEM LEO
Flag: Marshall Is
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 322&#730;
Length x Breadth: 117 m X 20 m
Draught: 8.8 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-04 01:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: SIFNOS
Flag: Greece
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 135&#730;
Length x Breadth: 274 m X 48 m
Draught: 11 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-04 14:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: HELGA SPIRIT
Flag: Bahamas
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 134&#730;
Length x Breadth: 250 m X 44 m
Draught: 9.1 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-11-04 21:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: VELEBIT
Flag: Croatia
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 39&#730;
Length x Breadth: 194 m X 32 m
Draught: 8 m
Destination: MIFFLIN RANGE ANCH.
ETA: 2012-11-05 19:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: ALMI GLOBE
Flag: Liberia
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 95&#730;
Length x Breadth: 278 m X 48 m
Draught: 9.3 m
Destination: MARCUS HOOK
ETA: 2012-11-05 14:30 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: KIM JACOB
Flag: Liberia
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 54&#730;
Length x Breadth: 274 m X 48 m
Draught: 8.8 m
Destination: MARCUS HOOK ANCH
ETA: 2012-11-06 01:00 (UTC)

TANKER SHIPS @ PORT (Delaware River)
SHIP NAME: HISTRIA GEMMA
Flag: Liberia
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 70&#730;
Length x Breadth: 180 m X 32 m
Draught: 9 m
Destination: PENNSAUKEN
ETA: 2013-02-11 23:30 (UTC) ???

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LOADED TANKER SHIPS (Anchored/Moored) in Lower Delaware Bay (Just Past the Entrance Point into Delaware Bay from Atlantic Ocean)

LOADED TANKER SHIPS Anchored/Moored in lower Delaware Bay waiting to move up into Upper Delaware Bay & Delaware River is still @ 7!
But 2 other oil tankers (MAERSK MISAKI)and (EAGLE KINABALU) is Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance,
Destination: PHILADELPHIA and PAULSBORO



SHIP NAME: NORDIC PASSAT
Flag: Marshall Is
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 263&#730;
Length x Breadth: 274 m X 50 m
Draught: 14.4 m
Destination: PHILADELPIA
ETA: 2012-10-22 20:00

SHIP NAME: OSG VISION
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 0.5 kn / 261&#730;
Length x Breadth: 213 m X 32 m
Draught: 8 m
Destination: DELAWARE BAY
ETA: 2012-10-27 14:00

SHIP NAME: NORDIC COSMOS
Flag: Marshall Is
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 173&#730;
Length x Breadth: 274 m X 48 m
Draught: 14.8 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-01 18:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: JASMINE KNUTSEN
Flag: Canada
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 254&#730;
Length x Breadth: 277 m X 46 m
Draught: 13.4 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-02 10:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: DIMITRIS P
Flag: Liberia
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 237&#730;
Length x Breadth: 274 m X 50 m
Draught: 9.5 m
Destination: BIGSTONE ANCHORAGE
ETA: 2012-11-03 09:00 (UTC)


SHIP NAME: MAERSK MISAKI
Flag: Marshall Is
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance....
Speed/Course: 0.2 kn / 267&#730;
Length x Breadth: 180 m X 30 m
Draught: 7.6 m
Destination: PHILADELPHIA
ETA: 2012-11-05 13:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: EAGLE KINABALU
Flag: Singapore
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance....
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 297&#730;
Length x Breadth: 237 m X 42 m
Draught: 11.1 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-10-05 20:00


SHIP NAME: AMERICAN PHOENIX
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 255&#730;
Length x Breadth: 182 m X 32 m
Draught: 11.4 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-11-06 05:00 (UTC)

SHIP NAME: OSG HORIZON
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 351&#730;
Length x Breadth: 215 m X 33 m
Destination:
ETA: 2013-01-01 00:00 (UTC)

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Yo OP!

Sira has a colorful history...used to be named Pramoni from Singapore or might still be.
[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

and

[link to www.shipspotting.com]

Turns out Pramoni was hijacked by Somali pirates 2 January 2010 in the Gulf of Aden. ohno

Anyway she's made it as far as Owls Head Treatment Center which is about as far as they get before turning back. Do you have any idea why the tankers are only going this far then they're turning back?
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Yo OP!

Sira has a colorful history...used to be named Pramoni from Singapore or might still be.
[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

and

[link to www.shipspotting.com]

Turns out Pramoni was hijacked by Somali pirates 2 January 2010 in the Gulf of Aden. ohno

Anyway she's made it as far as Owls Head Treatment Center which is about as far as they get before turning back. Do you have any idea why the tankers are only going this far then they're turning back?
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Yo Brooklyn!

You may have a better view than any of us but I think the power is still out at the docks on the New York side so no place to unload. Maybe why Cuomo was screaming so loudly today about the power companies.

I would think that Futures Contracts may have something to do with it too as if no delivery is made than people make/lose money fast.

The other thing I noticed is that the Big Bastards out waiting. They are too big for the Upper Harbor so they would be going to Linden/Perth Amboy so that they didn't have to cross under the bridges, so that area is still out as well for various reasons.

That is a very interesting history on that ship too. Hope its not still Hijacked!

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thank u. i am ny state on pa border.bout an hour west of binghamton. gf said walmart had raised price of coffee n seemed understocked. i do know a wharehouse/distirbutor of walmart is in richmond, ship via norfolk. but rather that ships north i doubt.my concern is :now the government has reason to impose obamama's martial FEMA laws. which we all know basically would make him a dictator. ppl without food will b easily led. "go here,we have food"= FEMA CAMP IS WAITING FOR U.
info much appreiciated.
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I've been out to the Corning area many times. beautiful out there.

That is interesting about the Walmart. They may have diverted some of their supply to the more needed places for restock but definitely keep us posted on that because you never know. Maybe being a little further out you will actually see shortages sooner because of the lower frequency of deliveries.

Just don't know how it all plays out but we are about to find out.
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Thanks for the Philly update. That Paulsboro facility can only store 90,800 barrels so it will be overloaded quick unless they are getting trucks in and out of there.

It seems to be about 1 or 2 Tankers a day docking in Philly. Does that seem right?
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Thanks for the Philly update. That Paulsboro facility can only store 90,800 barrels so it will be overloaded quick unless they are getting trucks in and out of there.

It seems to be about 1 or 2 Tankers a day docking in Philly. Does that seem right?
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Yea thats what it looks like to me also, 1 or 2 Tankers a day for all the NJ/PA Refineries @ Philly and south of Philly

only 1 today so far

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Thanks for the Philly update. That Paulsboro facility can only store 90,800 barrels so it will be overloaded quick unless they are getting trucks in and out of there.

It seems to be about 1 or 2 Tankers a day docking in Philly. Does that seem right?
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25





Yea thats what it looks like to me also, 1 or 2 Tankers a day for all the NJ/PA Refineries @ Philly and south of Philly

only 1 today so far
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AMERICAN PHOENIX mored in Delaware Bay is now Underway, its in the shipping channal

Ship Name: AMERICAN PHOENIX
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 12.2 kn / 346&#730;
Length x Breadth: 182 m X 32 m
Draught: 11.4 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-11-06 05:00 (UTC)
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ALSO

Theres now 2 oil tankers (MAERSK MISAKI)and (EAGLE KINABALU) Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance,
Destination: PHILADELPHIA and PAULSBORO

editing my oil tanker report post

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Food Update



These are the major food distribution markets for the NYC area at Hunts Point
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Hunts Point Meat Market
"The World's Largest Food Distribution Center"
Hunts Point Cooperative Market has 1,000,000 square feet of refrigerated space. The Coop consists of 52 companies that process and distribute meat and meat products in just under one million square feet.
[link to www.huntspointcoopmkt.com]

Located at the Hunts Point Food Distribution Center, which houses the Fulton Fish Market, a produce market and a meat market, the Hunts Point Cooperative Market is the source for approximately 60 percent of New York City’s produce. More than 50 independent wholesale food businesses located at the Market supply food to over 22 million people in the New York metropolitan area. ... The market can be accessed from other boroughs via I-895. It is serviced by rail via CSX Transportation's Oak Point Yard and gets around 2700 cars per year. In 2012 the market received a $10 million federal grant to improve rail operations. Currently, rail cars and trucks share unloading docks, causing conflicts. The rail improvements are part of a $332.5 million major renovation to the market that is under negotiation.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Nothing on their page about the storm. They probably have meat stored to last for a while. Their rail traffic does not seem that significant, only about 11 cars per day at 250 working day/year. They must be depending on truck delivery.

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Hunts Point Produce Market has a banner on their home page that says:
WE SURVIVED SANDY!!!! THE MARKET IS OPEN!

Located in Hunts Point region of Bronx, NY, the Hunts Point Terminal Market is the largest wholesale produce market in the world, sitting on 113 acres of property comprising of 1 million square feet of interior space. We offer an amazingly diverse selection of fruits and vegetables from around the globe. Our produce is delivered fresh daily via plane, boat, and tractor trailer from 49 states and 55 countries.
[link to www.huntspointproducemkt.com]

Fresh produce arrives from around the world by boat,
rail, air cargo and tractor trailer
Generates $2.4 billion in sales annually
Employs 10,000 people.
Receives produce from 55 countries and 49 states.
Handles 210 million packages of fruits and vegetable
a year.
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Bronx Hunts Point produce market donates 4,000 pounds of fruit and vegetables to Sandy victims
Produce wholesalers pitich in to help needy
By Daniel Beekman / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, November 5, 2012, 2:31 PM

They feed New York during good times and bad.

The wholesalers of the Hunts Point Produce Market in the Bronx have trucked about two tons of fruits and vegetables to Superstorm Sandy victims in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.

"When people are in trouble, the first thing they need is food," said Chris Armata, president of E. Armata, Inc., a 120-year-old family business. "We always try our best to help."

The Oyster Bay, Long Island resident lost electricity during the record squall but suffered nothing like the people of Coney Island, Breezy Point and Staten Island.

"We had no clue how severe the damage was until we got to work Tuesday night and turned on the TV," Armata said. "It was devastating."

He and other Hunts Point wholesalers packed three trucks with produce last Friday and loaded up a fourth truck Monday morning, said Myra Gordon, executive administrative director of the market.

They shipped about 4,000 pounds of oranges, apples, pears, bananas, carrots, blackberries, grapes and persimmons to emergency shelters at Brooklyn Tech High School in Brooklyn, Queens College in Queens and Tottenville High School and Susan B. Wagner High School in Staten Island.

"People don't have the ability to heat food right now," Gordon said. "The city asked us to send items to eat on the spot."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]

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This is from a newsletter put out for the perishible foods industry :

On-The-Ground Assessment Of Hurricane Sandy’s Aftermath By One Of NY-NJ’s Leading Retailers

Jim Prevor’s Perishable Pundit, November 5, 2012

As the Pundit has been jetting around Asia, our friends and family in the Northeast have been struggling with the aftermath of the storm. We work closely with Paul Kneeland, Vice President of Produce & Floral of Kings Food Markets and Chairman of the Conference Committee at the Eastern Produce Council, with whom we present The New York Produce Show and Conference.

Kings is right at the epicenter of the storm, and Paul was kind enough to send an update:

What a week……

Good news is that most everyone is safe — Staten Island, the Rockaways — not so lucky.

Hoboken was ravaged too — there was a sailboat in a parking lot — Four feet of water raced up the streets. Sidewalks are littered with soaked, ruined furniture and belongings

We lost power to 17 stores at the height of the storm. Six generators helped save some — we lost all perishable product in 11 of our stores.

We are still (as of Sunday AM) out of power in two stores and the six generators have been moved around to bring stores back on line as full power is restored. Some stores’ full power is expected by the end of the week.

It is a disaster down here, but we will all survive. Gas is a huge issue and rationing started yesterday — I waited 2 1/2 hours in line on Friday. Cell phone service is spotty — some likened it to the days after 9-11.

Nerves are frayed and patience is no longer evident.

Looting has started but just small factions — we cannot leave anything outside the stores. Thieves know power is out and battery backup is out on security systems. Generator theft is commonplace. And gas siphoning is happening all over.

If you ever saw the movie Mad Max — it is kind of like that.

We have worked hard to get all our stores open to provide the basic necessities to our neighborhoods. Our competition often cannot react the way we have. They don’t have the same flexibility.

Pallets of ice sitting on sales floors would never be considered, for example, but we still can’t keep up. One store received 18 pallets of firewood, and it was gone in two hours.

Despite all that, we had positive sales! And we beat our budget! That is with ten stores being closed last Tuesday….

There is my update from the newest Federal Disaster area — New Jersey!

All is as well as could be expected!

— Paul Kneeland
Vice President of Produce and Floral
Kings Food Markets

[link to www.perishablepundit.com]

There is much more on the website about the perisible food industry's challenges.
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Thanks for the Philly update. That Paulsboro facility can only store 90,800 barrels so it will be overloaded quick unless they are getting trucks in and out of there.

It seems to be about 1 or 2 Tankers a day docking in Philly. Does that seem right?
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25





Yea thats what it looks like to me also, 1 or 2 Tankers a day for all the NJ/PA Refineries @ Philly and south of Philly

only 1 today so far
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AMERICAN PHOENIX mored in Delaware Bay is now Underway, its in the shipping channal

Ship Name: AMERICAN PHOENIX
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 12.2 kn / 346&#730;
Length x Breadth: 182 m X 32 m
Draught: 11.4 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-11-06 05:00 (UTC)
Received (396): 0h 2min ago

ALSO

Theres now 2 oil tankers (MAERSK MISAKI)and (EAGLE KINABALU) Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance,
Destination: PHILADELPHIA and PAULSBORO

editing my oil tanker report post
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OSG HORIZON mored in Delaware Bay is also now Underway, its in the shipping channal


SHIP NAME: OSG HORIZON
Flag: USA
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 0.1 kn / 351&#730;
Length x Breadth: 215 m X 33 m
Destination: NO Destination Posted
ETA: 2013-01-01 00:00 (UTC)

Got down to 5 tankers mored in lower Delaware Bay, then another tanker (SPT NAVIGATOR) moved in from the Atlantic and mored to bring it backup to 6 tankers mored in lower Delaware Bay

SHIP NAME: SPT NAVIGATOR
Flag: Bahamas
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 102&#730;
Length x Breadth: 241 m X 42 m
Draught: 14.8 m
Destination: DELAWARE USA
ETA: 2012-11-03 12:00 (UTC)

Still 2 oil tankers (MAERSK MISAKI)and (EAGLE KINABALU) Anchored/Moored in the Atlantic aprox 30 miles east of the Delaware Bay Entrance. Another tanker (MCT ARCTURUS) Moving into the entrance of Delaware Bay. This should bring the mored tankers in lower Del Bay backup to 7 in about 1 hour or 2

SHIP NAME: MCT ARCTURUS
Flag: Liberia
Ship Type: Tanker
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 11.4 kn / 337&#730;
Length x Breadth: 149 m X 24 m
Draught: 9.1 m
Destination: PAULSBORO
ETA: 2012-11-05 14:00 (UTC)

Time for bed, also work 3 to 11 shift Tuesday, not sure if I will have time to update from work. If I do it will be from my smart phone, hate typing from those things, I make to many damn typos...lol

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