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Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,

 
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The gas stations have fuel,they can't pump because no electricity. Thanks fema ,way to plan ahead.New Jersey has become a parking lot.
 Quoting: Black Diamond 6838274


In what way is fema responsible for the power being down and what do you think they could do about it anyways. Nothing. The power company's have to fix it. Gas stations could have installed their own generators. Thats right. Individual gas stations can install generators to pump fuel. Hello.
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Re Gas stations without power;

You can't tell me the national guard does not have or cannot obtain generators. It is not rocket science to tap into a breaker panel with a power source.

In other words I see no excuse for more gas stations not being operational.
 Quoting: Real list


Its a bit like Triage...Priorities are set. Right now from what it sounds like the Power companies main priorities are getting the power back to the Ports and vital economic areas and then to the outlaying areas.

Whatever the reason, that is what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I guess the rest of your country needs fuel as well I would think. You guys don't get it do you. The east coast is the HUB for the rest of the country, Guess maybe they would worry about the ports and refineries first before the homes. People were told to prepare. What part of that was not understood. I heard everybody on this site just about go on and on about what a big deal was being made about nothing. Ya right. Turned out to be everything. Maybe everybody will listen next time. Ya Think...? Preppers not so crazy afterall.
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Re Gas stations without power;

You can't tell me the national guard does not have or cannot obtain generators. It is not rocket science to tap into a breaker panel with a power source.

In other words I see no excuse for more gas stations not being operational.
 Quoting: Real list


Its a bit like Triage...Priorities are set. Right now from what it sounds like the Power companies main priorities are getting the power back to the Ports and vital economic areas and then to the outlaying areas.

Whatever the reason, that is what they are doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I guess the rest of your country needs fuel as well I would think. You guys don't get it do you. The east coast is the HUB for the rest of the country, Guess maybe they would worry about the ports and refineries first before the homes. People were told to prepare. What part of that was not understood. I heard everybody on this site just about go on and on about what a big deal was being made about nothing. Ya right. Turned out to be everything. Maybe everybody will listen next time. Ya Think...? Preppers not so crazy afterall.
 Quoting: TrinityMountain


There is extreme Normalcy Bias going on there right now but it is starting to unravel quickly. NYC is just not used to things like this and always expect things to be done yesterday. Its just the nature of the area.

The Oil comes from a variety of different places so it depends on the area. I believe that the refineries,etc. that I am looking at really just pertain to NJ, NYC/NY State, CT but maybe a little bit of Eastern,PA.
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CSX Line to Port Elizabeth is Cutoff still.




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I'm in Brooklyn, overlooking the NY Harbor. Have a birds-eye view of everything from my balcony. We were very lucky, minimal damage, some trees knocked over on cars was all.

Stopped by a major grocery store yesterday...it was at least 40% out of inventory and they were only taking cash. They were completely sold out of canned foods, milk, bread items, chip aisle was bare. Asked the store manager (who is a good friend of mine) if he could pull some items for me from the back. He said "that's it, we don't have any more stock...we don't know when we're getting the next delivery truck. They're not letting any food trucks thru NJ or CT, all the food trucks are being turned back. The government has deemed food trucks to be secondary. They're only letting in utilities trucks and medical personnel." I asked him if he had any idea when they would start letting food trucks thru and he said no. Then he got tears in his eyes and walked away.

I'm going back to the store this afternoon to see if food truck deliveries have resumed. And do general recon in the area.
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From time to time I listen to radio after midnight - 700WLW-clear channel - Trucker Radio, as an alternative to Coast to Coast..
Last few nights truckers are speaking of not being able to deliver their cargo into the affected areas of NY, NJ, etc.
It's a cascading problem. Truckers can't deliver, are stuck in truck stops with a full payload and they can't pick up another payload and continue on. Gridlock in the trucking industry.
 Quoting: zeezee


This happened after Katrina too. Trucks with ice and water stalled for 2-3 days because they could not get in.

The logistics are overwhelming, but hopefully someone, somewhere is working on getting trucks into working terminals, unloaded, and back out again.
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I'm in Brooklyn, overlooking the NY Harbor. Have a birds-eye view of everything from my balcony. We were very lucky, minimal damage, some trees knocked over on cars was all.

Stopped by a major grocery store yesterday...it was at least 40% out of inventory and they were only taking cash. They were completely sold out of canned foods, milk, bread items, chip aisle was bare. Asked the store manager (who is a good friend of mine) if he could pull some items for me from the back. He said "that's it, we don't have any more stock...we don't know when we're getting the next delivery truck. They're not letting any food trucks thru NJ or CT, all the food trucks are being turned back. The government has deemed food trucks to be secondary. They're only letting in utilities trucks and medical personnel." I asked him if he had any idea when they would start letting food trucks thru and he said no. Then he got tears in his eyes and walked away.

I'm going back to the store this afternoon to see if food truck deliveries have resumed. And do general recon in the area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26774112


Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, from what I am reading I do not think it is going to get better for quite some time.

If the trains cannot come in from the west than the trucks cant be loaded. Stock up on what you can as at minimum you should see higher prices shortly.

Hang in there and be smart. Keep posting here too expecially if you have info on the condition of the docks, ships docking up or not, etc.
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Interesting article .. this guy has a charity which trucks fuel in to disaster areas


SUPERSTORM SANDY: Riverside charity sending fuel trucks to NY


The destruction wrought by wind and water should be old hat to Riverside’s Ted Honcharik, whose nonprofit Fuel Relief Fund is sending post-Sandy aid to New York and New Jersey.

For every recent major disaster, Honcharik’s charity has been there, providing some type of fuel when gas stations are closed, pipelines are disrupted, or supplies of heating oil run low. They sent gasoline to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, diesel to power generators after Haiti’s 2010 earthquake, and kerosene for home heating after last year’s earthquake and tsunami in Japan...


[link to blog.pe.com]

Sounds like they know what they are up against.


Fuel Relief Fund
Link to their site
[link to fuelrelieffund.org]
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80% of Gas Stations are out of Gas or have no power.

[link to video.today.msnbc.msn.com]

When the Power goes on, the situation will actually get worse because of the pent up demand and the lack of delivery to the Ports.
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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
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ain't happening to us so who gives a fuck? bad reality tv. apathy is our love
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Imagine how very, VERY differently this would be reported right now, were a REPUBLICAN in the White House.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


I am thinking no differently.... perception may be better, as in the race would have been cancelled and the generators forcefully repurposed.

But there is not much you can do about the overall situation execpt work your way through the issues.

I guess it would help to have a population that can take care of itself and that would prepare for these things. Then government could focus on fixing infrastructure instead of feeding a bunch of.... people.
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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Ok Yes I have been hearing that people are coming up to you in Northeast PA to get gas and food. As well as out to Easton, PA.

Most of the new gas inventory that is coming into NJ seems to be coming from PA at the moment as well.

Thanks for the info
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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Ok Yes I have been hearing that people are coming up to you in Northeast PA to get gas and food. As well as out to Easton, PA.

Most of the new gas inventory that is coming into NJ seems to be coming from PA at the moment as well.

Thanks for the info
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I feel for those poor people in NY, NJ.. but its a technology island and if the music stops its going to be hell on earth, that's why I moved 4 months ago. You know everybody who was paying attention should have got the message.. That cop on the radio was warning of an East Coast event in July. I told everybody I knew, even now Im telling friends to head west and nobody seems to take it seriously.. God be with them, and with us in NEPA when they make it to here on foot looking to survive.
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I'm in Brooklyn, overlooking the NY Harbor. Have a birds-eye view of everything from my balcony. We were very lucky, minimal damage, some trees knocked over on cars was all.

Stopped by a major grocery store yesterday...it was at least 40% out of inventory and they were only taking cash. They were completely sold out of canned foods, milk, bread items, chip aisle was bare. Asked the store manager (who is a good friend of mine) if he could pull some items for me from the back. He said "that's it, we don't have any more stock...we don't know when we're getting the next delivery truck. They're not letting any food trucks thru NJ or CT, all the food trucks are being turned back. The government has deemed food trucks to be secondary. They're only letting in utilities trucks and medical personnel." I asked him if he had any idea when they would start letting food trucks thru and he said no. Then he got tears in his eyes and walked away.

I'm going back to the store this afternoon to see if food truck deliveries have resumed. And do general recon in the area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26774112


Thx, AC... all my best to everyone there.

verysad grouphug
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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Ok Yes I have been hearing that people are coming up to you in Northeast PA to get gas and food. As well as out to Easton, PA.

Most of the new gas inventory that is coming into NJ seems to be coming from PA at the moment as well.

Thanks for the info
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I feel for those poor people in NY, NJ.. but its a technology island and if the music stops its going to be hell on earth, that's why I moved 4 months ago. You know everybody who was paying attention should have got the message.. That cop on the radio was warning of an East Coast event in July. I told everybody I knew, even now Im telling friends to head west and nobody seems to take it seriously.. God be with them, and with us in NEPA when they make it to here on foot looking to survive.
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Also, it JUST started snowing here in NEPA, 100 miles from NYC. damn hiding
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I heard on CNBC earlier that potentially one Dock in Brooklyn is open at an Oil Depot, but the whole Depot will be at 40% capacity.

Also, the first few barges are for Boston, CT and NY.

Cannot find a link for that interview though.
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NY-NJ Port Closed to All But Gasoline Barges




| Nov 02, 2012 10:45AM EDT


The hurricane-damaged Port of New York and New Jersey remained closed to all cargo ships on Friday morning except for small barges that were bringing gasoline into the harbor to replenish the dwindling stocks at gas stations throughout the region.

[link to www.joc.com]
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Maersk Line Diverting Cargo Bound for NY-NJ


Nov 02, 2012 11:14AM EDT



Maersk Line is diverting container ships that were scheduled to call at the hurricane-battered Port of New York and New Jersey, which is still clos...
[link to www.joc.com]

Still waiting for this subscription to go through.
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The Department of Homeland Security is waiving the Jones Act to allow other-than-U.S.-flag tankers into New York harbor to provide gasoline to the gas-starved region, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a press conference Friday morning.

[link to www.joc.com]
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same article...Some relief but as mentioned before, how much is actually going to Boston, etc. Could have been adjusted but futures contracts would have had to adjust as well which might complicate things.

"Two million barrels of gasoline were being offloaded into port as of Friday morning, a Coast Guard admiral at the press conference said, and tankers loaded down with fuel were continuing to make their way into the New York area. But he said he did not want to open the harbor to other types of vessels because of concerns it would get clogged with ship traffic."
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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Ok Yes I have been hearing that people are coming up to you in Northeast PA to get gas and food. As well as out to Easton, PA.

Most of the new gas inventory that is coming into NJ seems to be coming from PA at the moment as well.

Thanks for the info
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I feel for those poor people in NY, NJ.. but its a technology island and if the music stops its going to be hell on earth, that's why I moved 4 months ago. You know everybody who was paying attention should have got the message.. That cop on the radio was warning of an East Coast event in July. I told everybody I knew, even now Im telling friends to head west and nobody seems to take it seriously.. God be with them, and with us in NEPA when they make it to here on foot looking to survive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Last Fall I sold our place up in Canada and completed the move from CT NY down to Texas

I told everyone I knew that I had a strong feeling there would be a "weather event" of some kind within a year

it was just a hunch, but I have been rewarded for acting on my hunches in the past

I regret what is happening right now in the tri-state region. No one deserves what is happening up there

However, the congestion and cost of living in that area makes it extremely high risk, imho. Even on a normal/non disaster day it could take 1 hr to travel half a mile in NYC, one could sit stuck in traffic for hours due to one lane lost to construction

I grew up on Long Island, and when we were kids teachers would tell us that if there were ever an attack on NYC, LI's would be in trouble. Traffic would lock down all exits to the mainland.

I hope everyone stays safe and if you are at risk of a supply chain disruption, please consider relocating temporarily to South Carolina

Weather is warm 75 degrees, gas is plentiful and cheap at $3/gallon: [link to www.columbiagasprices.com]

and there is temporary housing for under $700/month:

Monthly rents: $189/week, $669 months;

[link to columbia.craigslist.org]

Don't risk getting caught in the net.

just trying to help.....
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Only thing in the NY harbor in the past 45 minutes is a couple of Coast Guard boats, the Staten Island ferry went by once and what might have been a private yacht (it's windows were blackened) docked. Oh yeah, one small barge.
Boat traffic is nonexistent in the harbor.

On Wednesday and Thursday traffic was epic gridlock everywhere. Today traffic looked about the same as it does early Sunday morning. Everyone seems to have gotten the memo: no gas.

Car traffic leaving lower Manhattan on Brooklyn Bridge seems to be picking up for the first time since Monday.
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I'm in Brooklyn, overlooking the NY Harbor. Have a birds-eye view of everything from my balcony. We were very lucky, minimal damage, some trees knocked over on cars was all.

Stopped by a major grocery store yesterday...it was at least 40% out of inventory and they were only taking cash. They were completely sold out of canned foods, milk, bread items, chip aisle was bare. Asked the store manager (who is a good friend of mine) if he could pull some items for me from the back. He said "that's it, we don't have any more stock...we don't know when we're getting the next delivery truck. They're not letting any food trucks thru NJ or CT, all the food trucks are being turned back. The government has deemed food trucks to be secondary. They're only letting in utilities trucks and medical personnel." I asked him if he had any idea when they would start letting food trucks thru and he said no. Then he got tears in his eyes and walked away.

I'm going back to the store this afternoon to see if food truck deliveries have resumed. And do general recon in the area.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26774112


Keep us posted Ranger!

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This is a setup, the clock is ticking you had better get your family out ASAP as soon there will be no escape at any price. Im in NEPA and we have NO DISRUPTIONS here that I can see, no gas lines and stores are fully stocked. Im seeing full truck stops, I mean overflowing truckstops so there is truth to them not being able to get into the cities. Ive been shuttling gas cans to co workers in westchester for their backup power (over 200 miles round trip) soon I will be making food runs, I have a very small passenger car, others here have trucks. Its time to step up people and make it happen, our brothers and sisters need help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853998


Ok Yes I have been hearing that people are coming up to you in Northeast PA to get gas and food. As well as out to Easton, PA.

Most of the new gas inventory that is coming into NJ seems to be coming from PA at the moment as well.

Thanks for the info
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


I feel for those poor people in NY, NJ.. but its a technology island and if the music stops its going to be hell on earth, that's why I moved 4 months ago. You know everybody who was paying attention should have got the message.. That cop on the radio was warning of an East Coast event in July. I told everybody I knew, even now Im telling friends to head west and nobody seems to take it seriously.. God be with them, and with us in NEPA when they make it to here on foot looking to survive.
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Well, it sounds to me like you need to GTFO of NEPA if you want to survive. Once the "Golden Horde" makes it to you, it's Game Over, Man. Game Over.
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The Department of Homeland Security is waiving the Jones Act to allow other-than-U.S.-flag tankers into New York harbor to provide gasoline to the gas-starved region, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a press conference Friday morning.

[link to www.joc.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17033550


Oh, so the Executive Branch is just doing whatever the hell it wants now with no regard to the actual law? What the hell else is new.
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2 Q's:

What's the Golden Horde?

And what did a cop say about an East Coast event?

thanks
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Re: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,
The Department of Homeland Security is waiving the Jones Act to allow other-than-U.S.-flag tankers into New York harbor to provide gasoline to the gas-starved region, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a press conference Friday morning.

[link to www.joc.com]
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Oh, so the Executive Branch is just doing whatever the hell it wants now with no regard to the actual law? What the hell else is new.
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In the article it also says that the tax is waived with a quote from Cuomo.

Sadly it is an election next week and who knows what they will try to do.

We will see how it plays out as I still do not believe that there are Docks to tie up to though.
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Re: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,
Only thing in the NY harbor in the past 45 minutes is a couple of Coast Guard boats, the Staten Island ferry went by once and what might have been a private yacht (it's windows were blackened) docked. Oh yeah, one small barge.
Boat traffic is nonexistent in the harbor.

On Wednesday and Thursday traffic was epic gridlock everywhere. Today traffic looked about the same as it does early Sunday morning. Everyone seems to have gotten the memo: no gas.

Car traffic leaving lower Manhattan on Brooklyn Bridge seems to be picking up for the first time since Monday.
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CNBC on just a bit ago and said there are a few Terminals opening up but from what you are saying, that isn't equating to ships Docking yet.

Thanks for the info, keep us posted on what you see in the harbor.
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Re: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,
Sun just set in NYC and the temperature is dropping. It’s gotten COLD and windy outside. Rain has started to fall. Real feel temp is now 42 degrees, going down to 33 degrees tonight. All those poor, poor people stuck without any power or heat. They are in for a long, icy cold, wet night of complete misery. That’s 400,000 people in lower Manhattan alone in the dark without factoring in Long Island, Staten Island, New Jersey, etc. So very sad.

Now I know why there is so much car traffic high-tailing it from Manhattan and Long Island.

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