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Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,

 
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Question:

On the live ships map, there is a tanker moored at Bayonne and the description has a (Hazard A) after it. What does this mean?

JO ILEX
Flag: Norway
Ship Type: Tanker - Hazard A (Major)
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 346˚
Length x Breadth: 144 m X 24 m
Draught: 10 m
Destination: NEW YORK
ETA: 2012-11-04 08:00 (UTC)
Received (1258): 0h 15min ago
 Quoting: waterlily


Anyone else can chime in and find it as well. Not finding anything quickly. Would love to know as well.
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It looks like Jo Ilex is expected at Garden City Terminal in Savannah Georgia on Monday.
[link to m.savannahnow.com]
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I think it means hazardous cargo. I found other tankers belonging to the company, and some were designated Hazard A and some weren't. They were not in harbor.
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Crazy times out there. Brooklyn is becoming a ghost town. It's creepy. Found a cop who said a he was told tanker had unloaded "30 trucks" full of gas. Said that was why there was now gas at two gas stations in South Brooklyn (a Sunoco & a Getty station). That was all he knew.

Made it down to the water in the harbor and got chased off by security...but did not see any activity at all. The smell of diesel was gone.



Gotta go get more cash before it gets dark. Be back soon.

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Some Accurate Reporting.

Posted 45 minutes ago.

Well worth the whole read.

[link to www.nj.com]
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"Reopening of the port is critical to the region's economic recovery from the devastating effects of Hurricane Sandy,” the Port Authority said in a statement. “The port contributes billions to the region's economic activity and accounts for more than 269,000 jobs. We continue to work around the clock with all of our port partners to get all of our maritime facilities open quickly to ensure that our port — which enables the flow of goods to approximately 20 percent of the U.S. population in fewer than eight hours — is back in business and fully operational."

[link to www.nj.com]


Same article but we can see how important the Port is. Glad to see some honesty in the situation. It all seems to be on the NJ side of things too.
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STOLT NORLAND has now been rerouted to Wilmington, NC after sitting around for a few days and never making it to the Docks.

Interesting...

a US Gov Vessel is heading somewhere towards Breezy Point/Rockaways.

284M long...about 931ft long so no small ship.


Might be an Aircraft Carrier comparing the length to the USS Lincoln, H.W. Bush and Truman.

[link to www.dimensionsinfo.com]

No other activity in NY Harbor.
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25


This US GOV Vessel has now Anchored about 5 nautical Miles off the coast of the Rockaways.

Will keep searching the news to see if it is an Aircraft Carrier.
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New York Harbor Oil Disruptions

Busiest Oil port in the USA is still closed as of today.

Reuuuters India has the article but can't put the link in here I guess.

Cliff Notes:

1. 80 Vessles still sitting off Port
2. No estimates of being reopened
3. The largest Pipeline in the area is apparently still closed as well.
4. Apparently the debris in the harbor is causing some ships props to fail, with many ships floating in disrepair
5. New York Harbor stores 75 million barrels of oil
6. Recieves 900,000 barrels per day as of August 2012
7. Ships are only allowed into the harbor area with permission from the Port Captain's approval...called "Condition Yankee"
8. One barge is beached on Staten Island
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youwould think therewould be lots and lots of pictures of all this, but . . . NONE ! ?- preposterous.
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in brooklyn even where there was little if any damage....no milk....water....and as of WED. no more gas at the stations.

<snip>

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Sandy did it . . . yup
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ain't happening to us so who gives a fuck? bad reality tv. apathy is our love
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Imagine how very, VERY differently this would be reported right now, were a REPUBLICAN in the White House.
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Though this may be true what is concerning is that starting from the inlet, which starts at the Verrazano Bridge, on up both sides of the Hudson River and both sides of the East River are mostly all docks. The shores of Brooklyn, West Shores of Staten Island...Just have a look at Google Maps.

Then you have large canals that weave around the marshes on the Jersey side which lead into Port Elizabeth and slightly further inland.

Anyone who has landed at Newark Airport, sees this total dump, especially landing from the South. This dump that everyone laughs at moves an insane amount of goods on a daily basis that effects the whole country. There are container mountains at Port Elizabeth that are stacked 30-40 containers high or more almost like Pyramids.

I did see a picture of Liberty State Park Train Terminal, which was the starting point of millions of Immigrants after Ellis Island...totally destroyed. If you look on a map of that surrounding area, to the south, west and north you will get the magnitude of the situation.

Anyhow, will keep searching for reports of damage and delays.
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get a death count while youare atit . . . if they let you
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From time to time I listen to radio after midnight - 700WLW-clear channel - Trucker Radio, as an alternative to Coast to Coast..
Last few nights truckers are speaking of not being able to deliver their cargo into the affected areas of NY, NJ, etc.
It's a cascading problem. Truckers can't deliver, are stuck in truck stops with a full payload and they can't pick up another payload and continue on. Gridlock in the trucking industry.
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yup . . . Sandy did it
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Ok here is the big one.

Straight from the source. Port Authority of NY and NJ.

Ports


November 1, 2012
8:00 a.m.
All of the Port Authority's marine facilities will remain closed until further notice. This includes Marine Container Terminals: Port Newark Container Terminals, APM Terminals, Maher Terminals, Global Terminals, New York Container Terminals, Red Hook Container Terminals, and the Port Authority Marine Terminal.


For real-time port status information, operation changes, service disruptions, terminal closures, and traffic conditions, subscribe to PortNYNJAlerts: [link to paalerts.com]

Please contact your terminal or check their website for up-to-date details on closures and/or changes in hours of operation.


[link to www.panynj.gov]
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yeah yeah. "Sandy did it"
Do youall think the banks will open tomorrow?- or should we say right now: "Sandy did it"
and when the StockMarket collapses, that is "Sandy did it"?
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Seriously Im not in any of those states but there out of coke at my store in VA.
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That is good information though. Sorry I did not include VA and Maryland and everyone...All still valid of course.

Norfolk, VA is also a major Port and sounded like it may have been effected too.

All of these ports mentioned:

1. NY HArbor and Area
2. Baltimore
3. VA
4. Philly

effect every East Coast City and beyond

Keep the info coming...
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ok. "Sandy did it"

or did our credit finally run out?
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Gas in SW Ohio has jumped almost $.50 in the past two days.
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"gouging", after a hurricane, in Florida is illegal
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Port resumes operations in Sandy's wake
Steve Strunsky/The Star-Ledger
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November 04, 2012 at 3:48 PM, updated November 04, 2012 at 3:55 PM

TRENTON — The East Coast’s busiest port got back to business today after being swamped Hurricane Sandy’s surge.

Longshoremen began unloading a variety of cargo this morning at the Maher and APM container terminals along Newark Bay in Elizabeth, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said. Several ships were expected at the two terminals today, said the Port Authority.

The Port Newark terminal in Newark and the Global terminal in Jersey City are scheduled to open its gates on Monday morning, followed by the first vessel’s arrival at Global at 7 p.m., the Port Authority said.

[link to www.nj.com]

Related article:
[link to www.sfgate.com]

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USEC Port/Terminal Update: Hurricane Sandy
UPDATED 11/2/2012 03:00 PM PST

In light of the significant service disruptions on the US East Coast arising from Hurricane Sandy, Expeditors would like to advise you of the following.

The Port of New York and New Jersey Authority has announced the port will remain closed Friday, November 2nd, 2012 as the port remains without power and the channel is closed to navigation. This includes Marine Container Terminals: Port Newark Container Terminals, APM Terminals, Maher Terminals, Global Terminals, New York Container Terminals, Red Hook Container Terminals, and the Port Authority Marine Terminal.

[This link provides vessel names with Force Majeure Declarations There will probably be a lot more infomation here tomorrow after things get moving again. Some of this information is identical to that in a previous post.]

Vessel Name: APL Indonesia - Declaration of Force Majeure
Alternative Port: Norfolk, Virginia
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All quiet on the NY Harbor. No new ships have docked.

Trains still Cutoff.

16 Tankers or Cargo Ships either sitting outside Sandy hook or are within range to be sitting there tonight.

Good news that they are in fact unloading the Container ships at Port Elizabeth.

See what happens tomorrow.
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Gas in SW Ohio has jumped almost $.50 in the past two days.
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"gouging", after a hurricane, in Florida is illegal
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26792765


It's not gouging, gas is still well below it's highest price a month ago.

Normal price supply/demand price increase.

Incidentally, it has come back down $.25 since I posted the increase of $.50.
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"Trenton, NJ - Governor Chris Christie continued taking action today to ease restrictions on fuel sales in New Jersey, signing an Executive Order to suspend restrictions in state law that place limitations on the source of fuel particular and branded fuel retailers are allowed to sell."

"Specifically, the Executive Order permits wholesale or retail dealers of gasoline to broaden their supply network, so long as appropriate written notice is provided at stations as to the source of the fuel, if it is not from their previously approved source. For 10 days, these restrictions will be lifted."


[link to www.4-traders.com]

Well it looks like Christie is taking decisive action on the gas situation still. Certainly, this move reflects the downed Refineries, etc.

Hopefully it will help the situation.
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cool now they can sell sea water tainted with GAS. good 1
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[link to www.nj.com]

All I have to say is that Christie is giving hard facts and Bloomberg is giving excuses.

New Jersey will recover much faster than Long Island, Staten Island.

Staggering contrast between the two leaders.
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"Reopening of the port is critical to the region's economic recovery from the devastating effects of Hurricane Sandy,” the Port Authority said in a statement. “The port contributes billions to the region's economic activity and accounts for more than 269,000 jobs. We continue to work around the clock with all of our port partners to get all of our maritime facilities open quickly to ensure that our port — which enables the flow of goods to approximately 20 percent of the U.S. population in fewer than eight hours — is back in business and fully operational."

[link to www.nj.com]


Same article but we can see how important the Port is. Glad to see some honesty in the situation. It all seems to be on the NJ side of things too.
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They are going to have to help the people get on their feet before those ports will ever be the same again.
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Port resumes operations in Sandy's wake
Steve Strunsky/The Star-Ledger
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November 04, 2012 at 3:48 PM, updated November 04, 2012 at 3:55 PM

TRENTON — The East Coast’s busiest port got back to business today after being swamped Hurricane Sandy’s surge.

Longshoremen began unloading a variety of cargo this morning at the Maher and APM container terminals along Newark Bay in Elizabeth, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said. Several ships were expected at the two terminals today, said the Port Authority.

The Port Newark terminal in Newark and the Global terminal in Jersey City are scheduled to open its gates on Monday morning, followed by the first vessel’s arrival at Global at 7 p.m., the Port Authority said.

[link to www.nj.com]

Related article:
[link to www.sfgate.com]

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USEC Port/Terminal Update: Hurricane Sandy
UPDATED 11/2/2012 03:00 PM PST

In light of the significant service disruptions on the US East Coast arising from Hurricane Sandy, Expeditors would like to advise you of the following.

The Port of New York and New Jersey Authority has announced the port will remain closed Friday, November 2nd, 2012 as the port remains without power and the channel is closed to navigation. This includes Marine Container Terminals: Port Newark Container Terminals, APM Terminals, Maher Terminals, Global Terminals, New York Container Terminals, Red Hook Container Terminals, and the Port Authority Marine Terminal.

[This link provides vessel names with Force Majeure Declarations There will probably be a lot more infomation here tomorrow after things get moving again. Some of this information is identical to that in a previous post.]

Vessel Name: APL Indonesia - Declaration of Force Majeure
Alternative Port: Norfolk, Virginia
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I dont believe it...
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"Reopening of the port is critical to the region's economic recovery from the devastating effects of Hurricane Sandy,” the Port Authority said in a statement. “The port contributes billions to the region's economic activity and accounts for more than 269,000 jobs. We continue to work around the clock with all of our port partners to get all of our maritime facilities open quickly to ensure that our port — which enables the flow of goods to approximately 20 percent of the U.S. population in fewer than eight hours — is back in business and fully operational."

[link to www.nj.com]


Same article but we can see how important the Port is. Glad to see some honesty in the situation. It all seems to be on the NJ side of things too.
 Quoting: AnonymousFacts25


They are going to have to help the people get on their feet before those ports will ever be the same again.
 Quoting: TSWB21


Its definittely a chicken or the egg scenario. If the ports do not function it will be difficult to get people back on their feet. If people do not get back on their feet than the ports will never be the same again as you say.
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OK the backup is starting to unfold now. Since my last update on the Harbor, there are now 24 total Ships now off of Sandy Hook/Long Island or past the Verrazano Bridge waiting to get into Port/Dock.

Plus 3 more within range.

The three Oil Tankers past the Bridge are still the same ones that have been sitting there for a few days now.

There are still 8 Oil tankers off Cape May waiting to get into Philly

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

Let's hope they start moving into the docks tomorrow morning.
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Found some interesting info about Condition "Yankee"

It starts with Condition "Whiskey"

When Gale Force Winds (34 knots) from a Hurricane Force Storm are expected to arrive in Port within 72 hours

Port: Open, No restrictions

Condition "X-Ray"

When Gale Force Winds expected within 48 Hours

Port: Open, No restrictions

Condition "Yankee"

When Gale Force Winds expected within 24 hours

Port: Open, with resrictions

Condition "Zulu"

Gale Force winds within 12 hours

Port: Open, with resrictions. All users should prepare for full port closure

After the storm passes Condition "Yankee" is set until everything can be surveyed and assessed.

At the moment Condition "Yankee" is still in effect and may not change if the next storm is coming in.
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Port Authority Update on Conditions

Ports

"The Elizabeth Port Authority Marine Terminal in Elizabeth opened today. Port Authority staff and our partners are working around the clock to continue ramping up to full service. Four cargo vessels will arrive at Maher Terminal and one cargo vessel will arrive at APM Terminal. Both Maher and APM had power restored Saturday. Recovery and cleanup efforts continue at the Port Authority's other maritime facilities, which currently remain closed. Restoration of power by our utility providers is a primary requirement in getting all of the ports operational."



[link to www.panynj.gov]

Good to know that the Maritime Map is accurate. There are pictures of the APL CORAL, HANJIN IRENE and APL SARDONYX exactly as stationed.

[link to www.marinetraffic.com]

They are for the press so I will not post the photos.
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PORT NEWARK CONTAINER TERMINAL AND GLOBAL TERMINAL TO OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MONDAY

"The port has faced unprecedented challenges as a result of Hurricane Sandy. The storm surge caused nearly four feet of water throughout the port. Round the clock cleanup efforts have repaired damaged roadways, hundreds of displaced shipping containers, fixed rail lines, damaged electrical systems and other port cargo."

"In 2011, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey handled 5.5 million TEU’s (20-foot equivalent units), a record and nearly 4 percent more than 2010’s volumes. The port’s on-dock rail system – known as ExpressRail – also set a new record in 2011, handling 422,144 containers, or 12 percent more than in 2010. In 2011, the Port's major import commodities included furniture, beverages and apparel. The dollar value of all cargo that moved through the port exceeded $185 billion."


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Sounds like they are doing a great job in the New Jersey side of things. Be interesting to see how this next storm effects things. Terrible if they have to do it all over again.
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8 oil tankers still mored in Lower Delaware Bay. Was 9 this afternoon. 1 set sail and wentup the Delaware Bay, now near the Del Mem Bridge

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Container ships are starting to funnel into NY Harbor.

9 in total. One is docked over night. Still no movement from the Oil Tankers though.

But Oil tankers are moving into Philly slowly as |||||||| mentioned late last night.

13 total Cargo Ships will have landed = Roughly 42,500 TEUs should be unloaded assuming full ships.

Trains are still cutoff:

[link to shipcsx.com]

[link to www.nscorp.com]

So with that in mind the total amount of trucks needed to move the newly landed supply would be:

42,500/5100 = 8.3 x 10,200 trucks per 5100TEU =

84,660 Trucks to move this supply.

Well...I just don't see it happening with the gas shortage. The slow trickle will start as least.

The mad dash is on to unload before the Nor'easter hits
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Container ships are starting to funnel into NY Harbor.

9 in total. One is docked over night. Still no movement from the Oil Tankers though.

But Oil tankers are moving into Philly slowly as |||||||| mentioned late last night.

13 total Cargo Ships will have landed = Roughly 42,500 TEUs should be unloaded assuming full ships.

Trains are still cutoff:

[link to shipcsx.com]

[link to www.nscorp.com]

So with that in mind the total amount of trucks needed to move the newly landed supply would be:

42,500/5100 = 8.3 x 10,200 trucks per 5100TEU =

84,660 Trucks to move this supply.

Well...I just don't see it happening with the gas shortage. The slow trickle will start as least.

The mad dash is on to unload before the Nor'easter hits
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Your point is essentially that tankers can't do anything without trucks to offload. And that point is clear, thanks for your work OP, keep this thread bouncing.
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A few stories from the morning as well in regards to the on the ground effects...

"Police arrested a 47-year-old New York man accused of filling up 30 five-gallon Home Depot buckets with gasoline on Saturday night."

[link to www.nbcconnecticut.com]

This really isn't surprising but it has happened now.

At Least Cuomo is being honest now.

"Drivers are getting fed up over long lines and long waits because of limited gas supply. 'We’re not 100% sure when the system will be up and running where you won’t feel any effect whatsoever,' Cuomo said."

“I’m on ‘E,’” said Joseph Montano, 25, a cook from South Beach, S.I., who had been waiting an hour at a BP station on Hylan Blvd.


“Yesterday I went to three gas stations. I waited like two hours at each gas station, and it was closed. ... I’ve been trying to get gas for two days. This is crazy.”

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]

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