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Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA,

 
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Container ships are starting to funnel into NY Harbor.

9 in total. One is docked over night. Still no movement from the Oil Tankers though.

But Oil tankers are moving into Philly slowly as |||||||| mentioned late last night.

13 total Cargo Ships will have landed = Roughly 42,500 TEUs should be unloaded assuming full ships.

Trains are still cutoff:

[link to shipcsx.com]

[link to www.nscorp.com]

So with that in mind the total amount of trucks needed to move the newly landed supply would be:

42,500/5100 = 8.3 x 10,200 trucks per 5100TEU =

84,660 Trucks to move this supply.

Well...I just don't see it happening with the gas shortage. The slow trickle will start as least.

The mad dash is on to unload before the Nor'easter hits
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Your point is essentially that tankers can't do anything without trucks to offload. And that point is clear, thanks for your work OP, keep this thread bouncing.
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that is correct and more importantly that the trains are so important because of the amount of supply they can move. 84,000 trucks of the correct model will be very difficult to accomplish, if not impossible to keep things at normal flow.

Thanks for the moral boost and I will certainly keep this going. I am actually enjoying this because it will help people and we are learning a whole lot about how things work too.

I will say that it sounds like crews are working their asses off so certainly there is no fault anywhere. A massive task and I hope the Nor'Easter doesn't set them back.
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More Difficulties with Gas.

"Manhattan doorman Iver Sanchez, who lives in Queens, waited at an Upper West Side gas station for three hours and still had a long line of cars ahead of him.

"If I don't get gas today, I won't be able to get any for the rest of the week," he said."



Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

Other good info in this article
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Port of NY and NJ Update Monday morning

Airports:

Airports

November 5, 2012
7:45 a.m.

LaGuardia Airport is open, however, travelers are urged to contact their airlines before coming to the airport to learn about potential delays and cancellations.
John F. Kennedy International Airport is open, however, travelers are urged to contact their airlines before coming to the airport to learn about potential delays and cancellations.
AirTrain JFK has resumed service.

Newark Liberty International Airport is open, however, travelers are urged to contact their airlines before coming to the airport to learn about potential delays and cancellations. Due to limited power supply, the on-airport gas station (including CNG refueling) is closed until further notice.
AirTrain Newark has resumed service.
Stewart International Airport is open, however, travelers are urged to contact their airlines before coming to the airport to learn about potential delays and cancellations.
Teterboro Airport is open for service.

JFK

For JFK specific flight delay information, contact your carrier directly: [link to www.panynj.gov]
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For real-time airport status information, parking lot capacity, and AirTrain JFK service delay information subscribe to John F. Kennedy International (JFK) Airport Info-Alerts: [link to www.airportinfoalerts.com]

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More airports follow link

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Port of NY and NJ Update Monday morning

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November 5, 2012
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Due to widespread flooding in the PATH tunnels and multiple stations, as well as power outages that have shut down signals and switches, PATH rail service continues to be suspended. PATH engineers, staff and third party contractors are working around-the-clock with the goal of resuming partial service between New Jersey and New York as soon as safely possible.

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Port of NY and NJ Update Monday morning

Ports


November 5, 2012
7:45 a.m.

The container terminals at the Port of New York & New Jersey will be open for business November 5. Please continue to check the terminal websites for additional information.

APM Terminals will open main gates at 07:00 hours. Telephone: (908) 558-6000
Global Container Terminal will open gates at 07:00 hours. Telephone: (201) 706-4100
Maher Terminal will open main gates at 07:00 hours. Telephone: (908) 527-8200
New York Container Terminal will open main gates at 07:00 hours. Telephone: (718) 683-3210
Port Newark Container Terminal will open main gates at 07:00 hours. Telephone: (973) 465-0210
Red Hook Container Terminal Brooklyn will open main gates at 08:00 hours. Please note that Red Hook Container Terminal Port Newark is closed until further notice. Telephone: (718) 875-0777

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8 oil tankers still mored in Lower Delaware Bay. Was 9 this afternoon. 1 set sail and wentup the Delaware Bay, now near the Del Mem Bridge
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Oil tankers mored in lower Delaware Bay is now down to 7. One of the 8 mored oil tankers (ALMI GLOBE) is now heading up the Delaware Bay. Destination: Marcus Hook (refinerie)

Just to make sure (confirm) marinetraffic.com is giving out legit info i drove to the Delaware Bay shore and spotted the tanker with my own eyes (Confirmed). I live 5 miles away from Delaware bay

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8 oil tankers still mored in Lower Delaware Bay. Was 9 this afternoon. 1 set sail and wentup the Delaware Bay, now near the Del Mem Bridge
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Oil tankers mored in lower Delaware Bay is now down to 7. One of the 8 mored oil tankers (ALMI GLOBE) is now heading up the Delaware Bay. Destination: Marcus Hook (refinerie)

Just to make sure (confirm) marinetraffic.com is giving out legit info i drove to the Delaware Bay shore and spotted the tanker with my own eyes (Confirmed). I live 5 miles away from Delaware bay
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Thats awesome that you did that. yeah I think it is very accurate from what I saw last night as well which is great.

Sounds like you have Delaware Bay and Philly covered so I will stick to NY Harbor.
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HUGE, HUGE FIRE right now in New Jersey...black smoking billowing from in back of statute of Liberty...
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HUGE, HUGE FIRE right now in New Jersey...black smoking billowing from in back of statute of Liberty...
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Looks like 2 alarm fire in Jersey City...Reporting on Fox News right now
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HUGE, HUGE FIRE right now in New Jersey...black smoking billowing from in back of statute of Liberty...
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Looks like 2 alarm fire in Jersey City...Reporting on Fox News right now
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Residential Building that has spread to a second building
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Confirmation of one part of the bottle neck..

"That holds especially for truckers working in the northern part of the state, where most of the distribution terminals, including those in Carteret, Perth Amboy and Linden, which supply the bulk of the gas in North Jersey, lost power with the start of the storm, and only are few are back in business, he said."

"The gas haulers — which carry 8,500 gallons of fuel – were being shunted to terminals near the Delaware River, making the gas delivery chain more sluggish, Risalvato said. That meant about a three-hour round trip for those haulers, plus perhaps a two-hour wait just to load their tanks."

[link to www.nj.com]
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This just sucks. Cars ruined.

"At least 35 drivers who waited in line at a North Brunswick service station Saturday received diesel fuel mixed in with gasoline."

[link to www.nj.com]
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FRom same article:

"She said the station had received fuel from a third-party company not owned by Hess, and that tank truck still had some diesel fuel in it before it was filled up with gasoline.

“Apparently there was a little bit of diesel in with a lot of gasoline,” Hecker said. “We stand behind our product and will put things right for our customers." she said."


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Yo OP! It's Brooklyn AC here! Did you see my post from yesterday? I made it down to the harbor (by Hess Containers) actually made it on the grounds then got run off by security. Anyway NO activity at all...except for security walking around. And the smell of diesel/gas was gone.

Appears some Marines landed in Staten Island yesterday..must've been the chinook helicopters I saw.
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Heard that navy has arrived via boats in some parts of southern Queens to help residents stuck there.

That means that marine traffic website is not picking up military vessels. Only gov vessels showing up on marine traffic DOT COM is coast guard boats. Otherwise marine traffic website is accurate from what I can see.

They really need to evac those people especially children and elderly into shelters...can't see how they will survive the coming nor'easter.
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Feeding stations in Jersey City:

[link to www.nj.com]
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Beer:

"Brooklyn Brewery, one of the biggest U.S. craft brewers, managed to escape serious damage at its facility near Brooklyn's Williamsburg waterfront, where water stayed a block away. But its distributor, Phoenix/Beehive, took in five feet of water at the storm's peak in its warehouse on Brooklyn's Red Hook waterfront, according to a Facebook post by Steve Hindy, Brooklyn Brewery's president."

[link to www.nj.com]

Many other craft breweries in the article as well.
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Supply and demand = Price Gouging.

"More than 400 possible cases of price gouging of gasoline and other essentials, including a $10 box of matches and $7 loaf of bread, have been reported in New York before and after Sandy."

[link to www.nj.com]

This shouldn't get out of hand because I believe that in any counties that are considered diasaster areas, prices can only be raised 10% max.
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Yo OP! It's Brooklyn AC here! Did you see my post from yesterday? I made it down to the harbor (by Hess Containers) actually made it on the grounds then got run off by security. Anyway NO activity at all...except for security walking around. And the smell of diesel/gas was gone.

Appears some Marines landed in Staten Island yesterday..must've been the chinook helicopters I saw.
AND
Heard that navy has arrived via boats in some parts of southern Queens to help residents stuck there.

That means that marine traffic website is not picking up military vessels. Only gov vessels showing up on marine traffic DOT COM is coast guard boats. Otherwise marine traffic website is accurate from what I can see.

They really need to evac those people especially children and elderly into shelters...can't see how they will survive the coming nor'easter.
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Yo Brooklyn AC, yes sorry I did see your post. No need to get arrested over all of this but glad we can confirm Marine Traffic.

If you look out south of the Rockaways there is a Gray GOV Vessel. I posted a early yesterday that given the length of the ship from Marine Time it may be a Carrier and I do believe it is.

Not sure how the tracking of Mil vessels goes but I would doubt that they are up to date intentionally. Just a guess though.

Great job. It does look like www.nj.com is really on top of things at the moment but things are definitely lagging in NYC/Long Island.

Keep us posted with what you see and Grocery stores, etc.

If miltary planes start coming in we will get you pictures of those too so you are informed.
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Yo OP! It's Brooklyn AC here! Did you see my post from yesterday? I made it down to the harbor (by Hess Containers) actually made it on the grounds then got run off by security. Anyway NO activity at all...except for security walking around. And the smell of diesel/gas was gone.

Appears some Marines landed in Staten Island yesterday..must've been the chinook helicopters I saw.
AND
Heard that navy has arrived via boats in some parts of southern Queens to help residents stuck there.

That means that marine traffic website is not picking up military vessels. Only gov vessels showing up on marine traffic DOT COM is coast guard boats. Otherwise marine traffic website is accurate from what I can see.

They really need to evac those people especially children and elderly into shelters...can't see how they will survive the coming nor'easter.
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Also, regarding people with no shelter. It is kind of surprising that it took Bloomberg until yesterday to address this issue even just in talk. From hour 1 you could figure that was going to be an issue.

Hopefully those Marines and Navy boats have makeshift shelters to popup as time is certainly running out with this storm coming in.

I have faith in the military though. Best in the world
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NY HARBOR Update:

Here is what appears to be open to docking ships:

All Slips at Port Elizabeth and Port Newark Container Terminal.

We have 16 Container ships that have docked and are unloading. 1, The Haydar was at Docks before the storm

Only appears to be 3 more Container ship in range at the moment.

Rough estimate of TEUs(Cargo) being delivered.

63,852 TEUs assuming all ships are full.

That would roughly be 127,704 trucks to move that supply

Railroads are still cutoff

No other Docks in the area appear to be active. No Oil Tankers have moved all morning. There have been two Tugs moving between the three Tankers past the Varrazano all morning but that's it.

For Oil Tankers

17 Total waiting. One more in range and none diverted

There are three Big bastards out there too at over 100,000t which in theory are above 25m gallons each. (Panamax Class)

And as I write this Queen Express(Tanker) is making a move.

Again all estimates
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False Start on QUEEN EXPRESS...5 yard Penalty still First Down.
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ARTIC BLIZZARD Oil/Chem Tanker is heading back to sea without docking. 50,000t ship.

Still no Tankers have docked in NY HARBOR.
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FIRE IN JERSEY CITY UPDATE:

"A neighbor said that the blazes broke out just moments after power was restored to the block."

[link to www.nj.com]
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OP, am I right in understanding that the tankers will move away from land as the new storm approaches, so as to keep them safe?

This means that any progress made, will have to be halted as the ships cannot stay moored?
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ain't happening to us so who gives a fuck? bad reality tv. apathy is our love
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Imagine how very, VERY differently this would be reported right now, were a REPUBLICAN in the White House.
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You got that right.
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OP, am I right in understanding that the tankers will move away from land as the new storm approaches, so as to keep them safe?

This means that any progress made, will have to be halted as the ships cannot stay moored?
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Yes I believe so. I wasn't able to monitor the situation pre storm but under Condition "Zulu" Gale Force winds are within 12 hours and all vessels should prepare for full port closure. Right now we are in Post Storm Condition "Yankee" but that is kind of morphing into pre storm Yankee.

They really moved all of the container ships into the docks today quickly so I would think they can unload and head back out to sea. There doesn't seem to be more coming in either.

The tankers have not moved at all and only two in the Harbor now. I would expect them to wait until the last minute because supplies are so short right now.
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Found some interesting info about Condition "Yankee"

It starts with Condition "Whiskey"

When Gale Force Winds (34 knots) from a Hurricane Force Storm are expected to arrive in Port within 72 hours

Port: Open, No restrictions

Condition "X-Ray"

When Gale Force Winds expected within 48 Hours

Port: Open, No restrictions

Condition "Yankee"

When Gale Force Winds expected within 24 hours

Port: Open, with resrictions

Condition "Zulu"

Gale Force winds within 12 hours

Port: Open, with resrictions. All users should prepare for full port closure

After the storm passes Condition "Yankee" is set until everything can be surveyed and assessed.

At the moment Condition "Yankee" is still in effect and may not change if the next storm is coming in.
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FEMA's Supply Chain Glory

"Despite this knowlege, FEMA failed to move bottled water and other emergency supplies from their massive Georgia and Maryland warehouses to New Jersey.

When supplies finally arrived in Lakehurst on Tuesday, they were modest, and apparently, not immediately made available for local distribution. Indeed, the first bottled water that arrived in many of the communities of New Jersey's eastern shore didn't arrive until Thursday, and those supplies didn't come from the FEMA distribution center. Instead, they were half a million units of bottled water donated by Nestle's America on their own account without any apparent prior planning by FEMA and stored in the local Somerset, New Jersey warehouse prior to local distribution."



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Ok The HOECHST EXPRESS (Container) is docking at BAYONNE, NJ Docks. This is a good sign as Bayonne has not been opened so far.

Only one more Container Ship in range at the moment.
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Okay, back from my latest excursion around Brooklyn.

I started paying close attention to NY harbor traffic on the Saturday before the storm arrived (9 days ago) when I noticed boats, yachts, cruise ships, you name it…leaving NYC. Never seen anything like that. By Sunday night it was “bumper to bumper”…everybody was high-tailing it out to sea. So I’m figuring they’ll prolly start doing that again by Tuesday.

Noticed something strange…hardly any food trucks out there making deliveries. Only saw maybe a dozen during a three hour period. But this is the odd part…all of them except for one were from same area of Brooklyn. The food trucks all have their home address painted on them and they were all from either the same zip code that they were delivering in or from neighboring zip codes. So that indicates that it’s still only local food deliveries that are supplying the stores. And that they’re still not letting food trucks into the City.

The only food truck that was NOT local was a huge diary truck full of milk only that came from Perth Amboy, NJ. I watched it for awhile and it seemed to be stopping at the small bodegas and grocery stores in the area.

Overall inventory in the more affluent areas was much better then in the less affluent areas. Affluent areas had much more stock and variety on the shelves. Some of the grocery stores and bodegas in the less affluent (working poor) neighborhoods were closed cause their shelves were bare. Oh yes, and the Mayor is telling everyone to “stock-up” for the next storm…must be nice to be a multi-billionaire.

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