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A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?

 
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The best source for this type of primary research is here:

[link to www.survivalblog.com]

Don't be fucking sheep people, the government ain't gonna fucking help you.

You got that sheep.

This shit is real, people are going into garbage dumpster for food, and it has been what, fucking 2-3 days, that's it, and it's all breaking down, this American "dream/nightmare", is laid bare for all to see.

This isn't shit, wait until the real shit hits, when we get Sandy +1000000, nationwide.

Better have some fucking guns and your food.

Dumpsters for the sheep: [link to hotair.com]
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
Nobody in affected area on line?
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The people living in places that still don't have electricity also don't have any internet.

My power was out for two days.

Two days doesn't seem like much, but when it gets cold at night, and you have to turn off the lantern so the batteries don't go dead, and you have no idea when, or IF, the power is going to come back on, it really sucks.

Those people in the city, or in the town 5 miles north from me, that don't have electricity, my heart goes out to them. It really does.

Try turning off your computer, turning off the lights, and the heat, and just hang out for awhile.

In the dark.

Just try that for a few hours.

It's very educational.
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Fuck dude, get a zero degree rated bag and stop being a pussy.
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
Nobody in affected area on line?
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Guess ur gonna have to wait till they get their electricity back... and find a warm dry place to plug their laptop into.
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This. The people I know who were hit hard have no power, gas, electric, heat, internet, etc.

A good question though.

One of my mother's friends in Jersey is staying with a neighbor who has a generator that is working and providing heat. She was able to charge a cell phone and call my mom tonight. She drove about 2 miles to a gas station to get some simple supplies today and it took over 3 hours. There was a 2 hour wait for gas, and someone got knifed trying to cut in line while she was there. And she lives in a nice area.

I can only imagine what the hood is like. It is pretty fucked up a couple blocks off the main drag in AC on a normal night, would not want to be caught there now.
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We live in the Mid Hudson area of New York, we had wind but not much rain, and of course as expected, we lost power early during the storm but we have a generator that we use for our refrigerator, lights and recharging our cell phones.

We store plenty of water to drink, wash ourselves and of course flush the toilets thus we also have Coleman stoves and a Volcano stove that we did not use this time. For cold months, we have a propane heater and wool blankets, which were not needed this time of the year.

We have enough food including MRE’s we purchase when we shop at the closest military commissary we also have canned and dry dog and cat food for the pets so we had no problems.

The only thing we decided that was lacking was not having small paper plates to feed the cats from during a prolonged power loss situation. Even using old wash water to clean pet plates is a waste of water that could be recycled as toilet water instead of being discarded because bits and pieces of cat food prohibits using the water in the toilet tank.
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
The plastic Ziploc filled with water then frozen worked like a charm! Was without power for 3 days, and they were still frozen in the freezer and fridge.
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will be keeping an eye on this thread.
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The plastic Ziploc filled with water then frozen worked like a charm! Was without power for 3 days, and they were still frozen in the freezer and fridge.
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Thats good to know

Great thread OP Thanks
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I recommend adding a portable butane camping stove to bug-out gear for cooking & boiling water...even keep you warm for short periods.

their about $30 and cans of butane are cheap to stock up.

you can cook indoors with it too ...as opposed to propane BBQ's or camp stoves.

I use it for making coffee while camping..love it!
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I'm sorry. Here is a more serious answer. We froze bags of water ahead of time and used them to keep things cold. Just be careful you have them stowed away safely as to not drop a giant block of ice on your foot when opening the door.
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You can buy a "WaterBOB" for $30. Holds 100 gallons and fits in your bath tub. Even comes with a pump dispenser.
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I think his point was that by freezing the water ahead of time, he could extend the life of things in the refrigerator/freezer even when the power was out.

But the WaterBOB is a good idea. I've got one on standby myself.
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Can this waterbob be reused? Or are they a one event type of thing. I can't imagine using it more than once, but that one emergency would be worth it's weight in gold.
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sorry meant to add pic of butane stove

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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
Excellent thread, I am very curious about this.
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I agree ! My husband has never been big on prepping but after watching all this unfold he asked me to get a list. Really everyone needs to be ready if not for blizzards and ice storms then for tornado season.
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It's also a good idea to do a trial run, say on the weekend when family might all be home. See how long you can go without, and make do with what you do have.
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Excellent thread, I am very curious about this.
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Same here! I will definitely be checking this out over the nest week or two.
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
I'm sorry. Here is a more serious answer. We froze bags of water ahead of time and used them to keep things cold. Just be careful you have them stowed away safely as to not drop a giant block of ice on your foot when opening the door.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20239095


You can buy a "WaterBOB" for $30. Holds 100 gallons and fits in your bath tub. Even comes with a pump dispenser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


I think his point was that by freezing the water ahead of time, he could extend the life of things in the refrigerator/freezer even when the power was out.

But the WaterBOB is a good idea. I've got one on standby myself.
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Can this waterbob be reused? Or are they a one event type of thing. I can't imagine using it more than once, but that one emergency would be worth it's weight in gold.
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I understand the directions say that you are only supposed to use them once. Probably in case someone doesn't dry them totally out, they get moldy, and then the company gets sued.

As long as you dry them out and then put a little bleach in them to kill the bacteria, then they should work more than once. (rinse out the bleach before refilling.)
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
The plastic Ziploc filled with water then frozen worked like a charm! Was without power for 3 days, and they were still frozen in the freezer and fridge.
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Thats good to know

Great thread OP Thanks
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I always have several gallon milk jugs of water frozen in our two freezers. They will last for days and keep food from spoiling. When thawed it can be used to drink, ect.
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Did anybody use their hot water heater tank as a water reservoir?
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A question of Preppers In the sandy area what worked and what didn't ?
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Worked:
Ample candles,
kerosene lamps/fuel
Water and canned food/rice etc.
BBQ Grill with multiple propane tanks. Use propane tanks for heating (only had 3- not going to be enough). Resorting to rocket stove for cooking and some heat from outside.

tent use at night with Coleman propane for heat in the tent. Good sleeping bags.

Many flash lights and rechargeable batteries.

Solar panels, enough power to charge phone, use lamps when needed. Not enough power for fridge. had to cook all meat.

So far will hold up. Going through water very fast. Had 20 cases in storage...going through 1 case per day.


Not enough gasoline storage. Only 25 gallons stored.
Need a good stock of firewood

No looters..locked and loaded.
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
I'm sorry. Here is a more serious answer. We froze bags of water ahead of time and used them to keep things cold. Just be careful you have them stowed away safely as to not drop a giant block of ice on your foot when opening the door.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20239095


You can buy a "WaterBOB" for $30. Holds 100 gallons and fits in your bath tub. Even comes with a pump dispenser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


I think his point was that by freezing the water ahead of time, he could extend the life of things in the refrigerator/freezer even when the power was out.

But the WaterBOB is a good idea. I've got one on standby myself.
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Can this waterbob be reused? Or are they a one event type of thing. I can't imagine using it more than once, but that one emergency would be worth it's weight in gold.
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I did a search, came up with this on ebay ~

Q: What is the dimensions of this bag? Can it be filled up outside a bathtub? Is it reusable? Aug-27-12
A: I am not sure what the actual dimensions of the bladder are.It does need some kind of support to function as it is designed and allow the user to siphon water out as needed. However, the support does not have to be a bathtub. I think the large galvanized tubs used on farms for feeding or water troughs would suffice or you could build a form if you want to use it outside or in a basement. In what capacity are you looking to use it? The manufacturer considers that this is a one-time-use product.My thinking is that this is designed specifically for hurricane preparedness. If you live on an island or coastal area and are accustomed to stroing emergency water, you would need to rid yourself of 100 gallons in each tub if it turned out that it was not needed. The fastest way to do this is to cut the bladder and let it out rather than trying to siphon that much out and haul it out of the bathroom. If it were me, I would do just that, then use a blower in the fill sock to try to dry out the inside of the bladder and simply repack and store it. This is my own opinion. As I said, the manufacturer calls it a one-time-use product. In addition, because we are a water filtration and emergency gear company, I would siphon the water from the waterBob through a gravity filter for drinking and cooking. I hope I have answered your question. To see our full line of water filtration and survival products, please visit our eBay store. We will be adding new products next month. [link to stores.ebay.com] Denise


I have one also, but it pays for itself even though only one use.
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Excellent thread, I am very curious about this.
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I agree ! My husband has never been big on prepping but after watching all this unfold he asked me to get a list. Really everyone needs to be ready if not for blizzards and ice storms then for tornado season.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


It's also a good idea to do a trial run, say on the weekend when family might all be home. See how long you can go without, and make do with what you do have.
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I just got my power back on after being without it for approx 72 hours. My candles didn't provide very much lighting so I was constantly using flashlights. When I had to use various rooms I would just stand the flashlights up and let the light reflect of the ceiling which worked pretty well. Also used a small flashlight to read in bed. These were Maglite flashlights with LED bulbs. A 2-cell 12" standard model and a smaller pocket-size one (takes 3 tripple A batteries) which works remarkably well. Neither of the batteries in either one of them died out on me durng the 3 days of usage, which I was happy about.

To keep drinks cold during the 72 hours I had filled up some empty 2 liter poland spring bottles with tap water and then froze them in the freezer in advance of the storm. When the power went out I filled a camping cooler up with a few inches of water and then dropped the frozen poland spring bottles in there to keep it cold. I really only chilled some drinking water/gatorade/OJ, and some champagne. : )

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I have some tips I've never bothered to share with anyone.
I will do so now. By the way, my water was cut off for one week after flooding.

WATER!

I always see doom movies where people go up and turn a tap and say... whoop, no water. That's not right, what you are seeing is no water pressure. In most setups it's likely that there is a large tank of water somewhere in the basement just sitting there, enough to get you through whatever situation you are in. If you have on demand water heating you are likely SOL though. Take a look in your building or house... do you have a hot water tank? There's your water.

Pooping.
I was going out and buying/collecting water to flush my toilet. It worked fine, but in a full doom scenario I would use a bucket with a lid you can seal and save the water.

Whenever an earthquake hits or a typhoon is on its way, I fill the bathtub.

For boiling water and cooking food I strongly suggest coal. A small piece of coal will get the job done in one of those small burn buckets you can cook over, so a big bag will last you. getting a coal fire lit without dumping more fuel on it takes a bit of practice.

If you are cooking pasta/rice, you don't need to keep the water boiling the whole time. Once the water hits the boiling point any additional heat is just wasting fuel.

A single solar panel and a battery, marine is better, is beyond useful. Those small solar garden light things can be used to charge up AA batteries that you can then use in flashlights and such.

I could go on but I'll stop there for sake of length.
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Here's a tip I got from my aunt. Get a DIESEL generator not gasoline. Her stored gas went bad and she didn't have much anyway. Diesel lasts 3-4 longer than gas and is much safer to store in quantities. Anything is better than nothing but keep this in mind if you haven't already purchased one.

Also duh! Rotate your fuel! It's easy to forget to do that.
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The plastic Ziploc filled with water then frozen worked like a charm! Was without power for 3 days, and they were still frozen in the freezer and fridge.
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Thats good to know

Great thread OP Thanks
 Quoting: Fast Forward


I always have several gallon milk jugs of water frozen in our two freezers. They will last for days and keep food from spoiling. When thawed it can be used to drink, ect.
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I stood a chance of losing power in Ohio so I filled up a bunch of ziplocs with water I was curious how long they would last.

I went to my storage and got my preps out not much good they are in there.
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I just got my power back on after being without it for approx 72 hours. My candles didn't provide very much lighting so I was constantly using flashlights. When I had to use various rooms I would just stand the flashlights up and let the light reflect of the ceiling which worked pretty well. Also used a small flashlight to read in bed. These were Maglite flashlights with LED bulbs. A 2-cell 12" standard model and a smaller pocket-size one (takes 3 tripple A batteries) which works remarkably well. Neither of the batteries in either one of them died out on me durng the 3 days of usage, which I was happy about.

To keep drinks cold during the 72 hours I had filled up some empty 2 liter poland spring bottles with tap water and then froze them in the freezer in advance of the storm. When the power went out I filled a camping cooler up with a few inches of water and then dropped the frozen poland spring bottles in there to keep it cold. I really only chilled some drinking water/gatorade/OJ, and some champagne. : )
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Glad to hear you are well!
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I am N. of NYC, in the affected area (still without power with downed trees all around) but not the worst affected area.

Generator, installed with switch to run the circuits in the house, with gas cans, and filled the gas cans in the week before the storm.

Saved our asses.
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In long outages those generators suck a hell of a lot of gas. Best to run them for short times to make the gas last. 24/7 running you will need to own a gas station.
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I was about to ask how long one of those generators ran when filled. ie how many "hours per gallon". Surely it wouldnt run for more than a few hours on a gallon of gas. My lawn mower will hold a 1/4 gallon of gas and go about an hour.
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I just got my power back on after being without it for approx 72 hours. My candles didn't provide very much lighting so I was constantly using flashlights. When I had to use various rooms I would just stand the flashlights up and let the light reflect of the ceiling which worked pretty well. Also used a small flashlight to read in bed. These were Maglite flashlights with LED bulbs. A 2-cell 12" standard model and a smaller pocket-size one (takes 3 tripple A batteries) which works remarkably well. Neither of the batteries in either one of them died out on me durng the 3 days of usage, which I was happy about.

To keep drinks cold during the 72 hours I had filled up some empty 2 liter poland spring bottles with tap water and then froze them in the freezer in advance of the storm. When the power went out I filled a camping cooler up with a few inches of water and then dropped the frozen poland spring bottles in there to keep it cold. I really only chilled some drinking water/gatorade/OJ, and some champagne. : )
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Glad to hear you are well!
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Thanks Patrick...

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What didn't work?!? Having all those worthless, parasitic welfare Negroes breed like cockroaches and not sterilizing them!
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I am N. of NYC, in the affected area (still without power with downed trees all around) but not the worst affected area.

Generator, installed with switch to run the circuits in the house, with gas cans, and filled the gas cans in the week before the storm.

Saved our asses.
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In long outages those generators suck a hell of a lot of gas. Best to run them for short times to make the gas last. 24/7 running you will need to own a gas station.
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I was about to ask how long one of those generators ran when filled. ie how many "hours per gallon". Surely it wouldnt run for more than a few hours on a gallon of gas. My lawn mower will hold a 1/4 gallon of gas and go about an hour.
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Generators go thru much more than that, it cost me about $30 a day back when gas was much cheaper. It was a 6000 watt, 11hp generator.
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Mr 12 gauge convinced the looters to scoot.......
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What didn't work?!? Having all those worthless, parasitic welfare Negroes breed like cockroaches and not sterilizing them!
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Noted.
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Keep it coming guys! I have learned things on this thread tonight, nothing is too small to add to this important list!
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We were out of town and got home Saturday. Never lost electric and not in flood area. Did not have to shop. Thank goodness......heard there was nothing left on store shelves as of Sunday morning. But keep stocked on paper and canned goods, bottled water, etc. Filled bath tub. We filled vehicle on the way home. Were able to get bottled gas for grill and kerosene for heaters. Had flashlights and lighting and batteries & catfood/kitty litter. Weren't put to a test by losing electric. Been there with that during a few storms in the past though. But after watching the misfortune of others, I figure you're still at the mercy of the weather and anything goes. No trees fell on the house.....that was sheer luck.

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