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A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?

 
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
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I have some tips I've never bothered to share with anyone.
I will do so now. By the way, my water was cut off for one week after flooding.

WATER!

I always see doom movies where people go up and turn a tap and say... whoop, no water. That's not right, what you are seeing is no water pressure. In most setups it's likely that there is a large tank of water somewhere in the basement just sitting there, enough to get you through whatever situation you are in. If you have on demand water heating you are likely SOL though. Take a look in your building or house... do you have a hot water tank? There's your water.

Pooping.
I was going out and buying/collecting water to flush my toilet. It worked fine, but in a full doom scenario I would use a bucket with a lid you can seal and save the water.

Whenever an earthquake hits or a typhoon is on its way, I fill the bathtub.

For boiling water and cooking food I strongly suggest coal. A small piece of coal will get the job done in one of those small burn buckets you can cook over, so a big bag will last you. getting a coal fire lit without dumping more fuel on it takes a bit of practice.

If you are cooking pasta/rice, you don't need to keep the water boiling the whole time. Once the water hits the boiling point any additional heat is just wasting fuel.

A single solar panel and a battery, marine is better, is beyond useful. Those small solar garden light things can be used to charge up AA batteries that you can then use in flashlights and such.

I could go on but I'll stop there for sake of length.
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We obtain our water from a well however, without power it is useless unless you have a well bucket which we do but if we could not leave the house then your bucket idea for human waste is great and plastic kitty litter containers would serve you well as they are sealable. If you do not have, cats find someone who discards the plastic kitty litter buckets or purchase plastic food buckets with lids as they have many uses.

We have a Volcano grill that uses propane, coal or wood and quite versatile for cooking meals when other methods are not viable and without a doubt diversity is the key to survival.

We also have a solar battery charger and rechargeable batteries along with regular batteries to keep our flashlights and headlamps and battery powered fans functional.
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
great thread but i must say one thing, how many from ny and nj have a different outtake on katrina imagin if you were 100% sheep and didnt prep think long and hard before saying someone deserves this fate
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Super idea for thread...why didn't I think of this???
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
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Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective.
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine.

Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes.
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
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this is now becoming the talk in the neighborhood!

with gas....well gone and not knowing when supply will come back.
the gas in our car is what we are all worried about.

today it is full but maybe not the next day.

and we found out last time the gas price was over $5 the silly gas cap lock only will get you a broken gas tank...and still no gas!
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Re: A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't?
I am N. of NYC, in the affected area (still without power with downed trees all around) but not the worst affected area.

Generator, installed with switch to run the circuits in the house, with gas cans, and filled the gas cans in the week before the storm.

Saved our asses.
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In long outages those generators suck a hell of a lot of gas. Best to run them for short times to make the gas last. 24/7 running you will need to own a gas station.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I was about to ask how long one of those generators ran when filled. ie how many "hours per gallon". Surely it wouldnt run for more than a few hours on a gallon of gas. My lawn mower will hold a 1/4 gallon of gas and go about an hour.
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Generators go thru much more than that, it cost me about $30 a day back when gas was much cheaper. It was a 6000 watt, 11hp generator.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


A honda INVERTER works better, saves gas and is very quiet.

I have 2 of these EU3000iS , although I was not in affected area these are what I have if I need them. I have used them before and they work great.

[link to powerequipment.honda.com]
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective.
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Lmao, David?
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine.

Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes.
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this was a nice upper middle class neighborhood last week.

one of NY's state senators lived there.
that was breeze point.
100 units burned monday night.
the FDNY could not get in to fight the fire and it blew from house to house all night.
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

this is now becoming the talk in the neighborhood!

with gas....well gone and not knowing when supply will come back.
the gas in our car is what we are all worried about.

today it is full but maybe not the next day.

and we found out last time the gas price was over $5 the silly gas cap lock only will get you a broken gas tank...and still no gas!
 Quoting: psyoptics


It is only going to get worse in some areas. Good luck.
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A question of Preppers In the sandy area what worked and what didn't ?
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Gun - check
Ammo - check
Flashlight so you can see their white eyes and gold teeth - check
Life Raft - check
Rat Poison - check
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Sandy-Starved New Yorkers Dumpster Dive

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In long outages those generators suck a hell of a lot of gas. Best to run them for short times to make the gas last. 24/7 running you will need to own a gas station.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I was about to ask how long one of those generators ran when filled. ie how many "hours per gallon". Surely it wouldnt run for more than a few hours on a gallon of gas. My lawn mower will hold a 1/4 gallon of gas and go about an hour.
 Quoting: 284dan


Generators go thru much more than that, it cost me about $30 a day back when gas was much cheaper. It was a 6000 watt, 11hp generator.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


A honda INVERTER works better, saves gas and is very quiet.

I have 2 of these EU3000iS , although I was not in affected area these are what I have if I need them. I have used them before and they work great.

[link to powerequipment.honda.com]
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Good units, still use sparingly in long outages.
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine.

Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes.
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Lmao, David?
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman


LMAO Dimwit

Would you use a noisy gun when a silent slingshot would suffice?

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sorry meant to add pic of butane stove

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are the stoves that use the green propane bottles ok for indoors?
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Prepping, a casual way to prepare.

This is really great hearing from folks whom were close to Sandy's devastation. I hope everyone who reasonably prepped are OK, and safe.
Fifteen years ago my wife and I were compelled to make the change from urban living to a very rural setting in order to prep for the inevitable coming change. Little did we know this involved more than we expected. At first we were psyched about prepping, which we didn't call it prepping back then, and had to have everything, all the time, ready to go. Now we're older and really adjusted into the way of life that doesn't seem like your really prepping, and your just living prepared.

We have had many power outages lasting four and five days, nothing rocks you more than the first twelve hours without the grid. But, soon you settle into it and you stay busy checking and double checking everything in your zone.
First the setting, we are remote, when the power goes out and PG&E prioritizes who get back on the grid, we're the last to have power restored. So, contingency prepping is important. We have a 6500watt generator and store and rotate in and out 70 gals. of fresh gasoline. This gen. will run our lighting, two fridges, well pump, tv's, puters. We generally have a small campfire burning most of the time too, we usually have at least four cords of firewood on hand.

Food Stuffs, we have more food in our home and around our area you wouldn't believe. My wife and I have been buying food for over twenty years as if this Shit was hitting the fan any day. We purchase pretty normal stuff, fresh, canned, ground & whole flour, frozen stuff like turkeys, chickens & beef on sale. We grow many veggies year round and have live chickens for eggs. Beside that, we're in farming land and there's wheat, corn, melons, rice, almonds, walnuts, and more growing year round us.

Family, basically they all know where to head to when the power is out in their city for more than twenty four hours.
Bring food, fuel & guns.

Enough for now, back to the real crisis in the East.

-cheers
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I was out of power/cable/internet for 3 days. Food was not a problem. One thing i noticed is we had no water(water pump wasn't working or so we thought). On the third day of having no power/water "we" decided to buy a new water well pump(one that goes about 100' deep). New pump and control box cost us about $850. After all the working pulling the old pump out and replacing it with a new one, the rest of the day was spent messing around with the relay/control box. After a full day spent messing around with it all it was figure out that the control box was not gettinenough power from the generator(meaning $850 down the toilet). Ended up running a 220v line, hardwired from the generator to the control box and bam it worked! Then... pretty much 2 hours afterwards i went to shut the generator off for the night and went to go switch the main breaker(grid-switch) on. As soon as i laid in bed the power/cable/etc.. came back on.

3 days in the darkness wasnt too bad, even tho i didnt prepare beforehand... we were very well prepared. Had enough gas for the generator to run it 2+ days. It was a definite wake-up call because we heard it could take up to 2 weeks to get power back but that was all just an estimate. On the other hand... If the power went off and never came back... completely a different story. I know of a local family that lost their house due to a fire because of their generator(don't mess with a generator if you don't know what you are doing... you will burn your fucking house down).

Overall no damage done to the house/property but as for my town, it's a different story.

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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

this is now becoming the talk in the neighborhood!

with gas....well gone and not knowing when supply will come back.
the gas in our car is what we are all worried about.

today it is full but maybe not the next day.

and we found out last time the gas price was over $5 the silly gas cap lock only will get you a broken gas tank...and still no gas!
 Quoting: psyoptics


It is only going to get worse in some areas. Good luck.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


what has me scratching me head now....
the national guard are being sent in to help the gas stations as they run out of gas supplies.....
why not just bring in the gas from the refineries that is sitting in storage tanks?

why only truck in guys with guns?????
WTF?

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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine.

Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24866361

this was a nice upper middle class neighborhood last week.

one of NY's state senators lived there.
that was breeze point.
100 units burned monday night.
the FDNY could not get in to fight the fire and it blew from house to house all night.
 Quoting: psyoptics


The photo didn't suggest fire, it was quite misleading (with all the corrugated tin in the foreground) out of context. What to do in case of fire is obvious. How to prep for it... My camper van is full of gear, food, and has a solar panel on the roof.
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sorry meant to add pic of butane stove

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are the stoves that use the green propane bottles ok for indoors?
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Absolutely.
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please tell me how does one prep for this?
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There is a very good thread here on GLP:

Tips and info.
Look under topics and you will find threads there too.
Thread: Hurricane survival tips and prep info!!!

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I was about to ask how long one of those generators ran when filled. ie how many "hours per gallon". Surely it wouldnt run for more than a few hours on a gallon of gas. My lawn mower will hold a 1/4 gallon of gas and go about an hour.
 Quoting: 284dan


Generators go thru much more than that, it cost me about $30 a day back when gas was much cheaper. It was a 6000 watt, 11hp generator.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


A honda INVERTER works better, saves gas and is very quiet.

I have 2 of these EU3000iS , although I was not in affected area these are what I have if I need them. I have used them before and they work great.

[link to powerequipment.honda.com]
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Good units, still use sparingly in long outages.
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Correct......
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective.
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Whoa!!
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and finished it in the middle of the summer."
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I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

this is now becoming the talk in the neighborhood!

with gas....well gone and not knowing when supply will come back.
the gas in our car is what we are all worried about.

today it is full but maybe not the next day.

and we found out last time the gas price was over $5 the silly gas cap lock only will get you a broken gas tank...and still no gas!
 Quoting: psyoptics


It is only going to get worse in some areas. Good luck.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


what has me scratching me head now....
the national guard are being sent in to help the gas stations as they run out of gas supplies.....
why not just bring in the gas from the refineries that is sitting in storage tanks?

why only truck in guys with guns?????
WTF?
 Quoting: psyoptics


Takes time and order maintained is just as important.
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I was out of power/cable/internet for 3 days. Food was not a problem. One thing i noticed is we had no water(water pump wasn't working or so we thought). On the third day of having no power/water "we" decided to buy a new water well pump(one that goes about 100' deep). New pump and control box cost us about $850. After all the working pulling the old pump out and replacing it with a new one, the rest of the day was spent messing around with the relay/control box. After a full day spent messing around with it all it was figure out that the control box was not gettinenough power from the generator(meaning $850 down the toilet). Ended up running a 220v line, hardwired from the generator to the control box and bam it worked! Then... pretty much 2 hours afterwards i went to shut the generator off for the night and went to go switch the main breaker(grid-switch) on. As soon as i laid in bed the power/cable/etc.. came back on.

3 days in the darkness wasnt too bad, even tho i didnt prepare beforehand... we were very well prepared. Had enough gas for the generator to run it 2+ days. It was a definite wake-up call because we heard it could take up to 2 weeks to get power back but that was all just an estimate. On the other hand... If the power went off and never came back... completely a different story. I know of a local family that lost their house due to a fire because of their generator(don't mess with a generator if you don't know what you are doing... you will burn your fucking house down).

Overall no damage done to the house/property but as for my town, it's a different story.
 Quoting: Tiamat2012


To add-

Our oven is a LP-fed oven(only the inner part of oven is required to have electricity to work) the top burners worked without any electricity although, there was no "starter" for them, matches/lighter were needed.
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Powdered milk. Light weight bags. Sold in grocery stores. Milk doesn't spoil in powered form. Reconstitute with bottled water.

Good will stores are great for prepping and it's cheaper. Candles, candle holders, oil lamp, battery radio. Best thing I found is a new glass coffee percolator pot you can use on gas burner! I have to have coffee in the morning.
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I was out of power/cable/internet for 3 days. Food was not a problem. One thing i noticed is we had no water(water pump wasn't working or so we thought). On the third day of having no power/water "we" decided to buy a new water well pump(one that goes about 100' deep). New pump and control box cost us about $850. After all the working pulling the old pump out and replacing it with a new one, the rest of the day was spent messing around with the relay/control box. After a full day spent messing around with it all it was figure out that the control box was not gettinenough power from the generator(meaning $850 down the toilet). Ended up running a 220v line, hardwired from the generator to the control box and bam it worked! Then... pretty much 2 hours afterwards i went to shut the generator off for the night and went to go switch the main breaker(grid-switch) on. As soon as i laid in bed the power/cable/etc.. came back on.

3 days in the darkness wasnt too bad, even tho i didnt prepare beforehand... we were very well prepared. Had enough gas for the generator to run it 2+ days. It was a definite wake-up call because we heard it could take up to 2 weeks to get power back but that was all just an estimate. On the other hand... If the power went off and never came back... completely a different story. I know of a local family that lost their house due to a fire because of their generator(don't mess with a generator if you don't know what you are doing... you will burn your fucking house down).

Overall no damage done to the house/property but as for my town, it's a different story.
 Quoting: Tiamat2012

i know ....
for some odd reason my block in brooklyn did not lose power...we did not have 1 tree fall....heck we did not even loose anything more then big twigs????
1 block in any direction had large branches falling on houses and cars...even whole trees ripping up sidewalks and streets!
why spare us, my block?
just be thankful!
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