A question? Preppers in the Sandy area. What worked and what didn't? | |
Philly Girl User ID: 26693155 United States 11/04/2012 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres one!!!! Quoting: Mukk1234 "Hi ______ I live between Trenton, N.J. and Phila, Pa. along the Delaware River. I lost power on Monday night @ 6:00 pm. Power came back on, Wednesday evening @7:30 pm. We had a lot of high winds, but, surprisingly little rain, @ 3". I went to the store on Sunday, in the morning and again in the evening. Nether store had any selection of bread but everything else was available. I have enough for food a few weeks, but I suddenly had to have grapes, which was the reason for the trips to the store. I was fortunate enough to own a 4000 watt generator, which I used the whole time the grid was down, to run the refrigerators and the TV. So what did I learn? I, and a whole lot of people, are not prepared for life with no grid. Sorry to say "I though I was ready", but, I clearly failed this test run! I wish everyone the "Best Of Luck" in the future, Not too many people will make it. The first weeks will be very difficult. That is very clear to me. The shock of not having the 24/7 luxuries, will be overwhelming for most of us. Something as simple as not having access to a cup of store made coffee was a shock to me. (Wawa is the local franchise in the area for gas and coffee.) Wow, what an eye opener! " Yeah I'm in basically the same area (Levittown) and I stood in line for an hour for a cup of hot coffee Tuesday morning. The store had only 1 pot going working off their generator, but it was the only place from Bristol to Yardley that had any power and let me tell you - had they run out of coffee 1/2 way through that line I think there may have been a fight! It was amazing, everyone was pretty cool about it and we joked about how silly waiting in line seemed, but a coffee addict is still an addict and we needed our morning fix! Had we been told after 45 minutes that we waited for nothing I know the mood would have drastically changed in an instant. |
Philly Girl User ID: 26693155 United States 11/04/2012 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yo check this out, I'm in Belmar,NJ right now on an iPhone. This shit is so fucked up. I have to show the National Guard ID to get to my house. They just flashlight searched my neighborhood for looters. Gas is impossible to get. Canned food sucks. Cigs are scarce. Alcohol is plentiful. If you dont own a generator, get one. I'm lucky to still have a house right now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1855919 Hugs to you - hope things are getting better, I spent most of life living at the Jersey Shore and hung out in Belmar throughout my 20's. This whole thing just breaks my heart. All of the places that ever meant anything to me (you know all the important memories) have been drastically changed. Every time a new place pops up in my head it's followed by the realization that the place has either been destroyed or is currently a mess.....so so sad. |
Jimb0 User ID: 17671175 United States 11/04/2012 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This stove runs on any combustible biofuel and generates heat like those rocket pump stoves. Its thermolelectric and charges its own battery plus a usb device. Used for beverages, wash water, and ramen while charging the cell phone. [link to www.biolitestove.com] What didn't work: tshtf stash had gone bad, even though it was all canned and dried. Didn't rotate or maintain properly. |
Philly Girl User ID: 26693155 United States 11/04/2012 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine. Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes. Actually it look like Breezy Point to me, but I could be wrong. A fire started and the strong winds just took it from house to house destroying a hundred or so in a very short time. |
Phillip J. Fry User ID: 1565986 United States 11/04/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would be most worried about the criminal element in the cities, and have adequate firearms at hand. Shotgun preferred. Quoting: Desert Fox Do not forget the lowly slingshot and glass marbles, as they are silent but effective. A Wrist Rocket works great, especially if you upgrade with the heavy-duty bands. Yup, Got a folding wristrocket W/ magnum bands plus spares and bags of marbles. . "Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14038453 United States 11/04/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re Propane v Butane Quoting: Kiwi25 No they are NOT the same .. butane is almost liquid and comes in thin walled metal canisters. In very cold temperatures it will not "gassify" so you have to warm up the can. Put it up your jumper.. :-).. sleep with a can. Propane is a compressed gas and comes in heavy strong walled cylinders. Butane is good for quick convenience and camping mobility. Propane for longer term.. heavy use. THANK you! :-) The butane tip is actually very useful (sleeping with a can). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17964350 United States 11/04/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you always come off so fucking high and mighty. and yet. what part of no electricity, no laptop, no home, resources in short supply and everyone wanting a piece, do you not understand? maybe they're all off trying to get some drinking water. you're always so ready to criticize. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17964350 United States 11/04/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yo check this out, I'm in Belmar,NJ right now on an iPhone. This shit is so fucked up. I have to show the National Guard ID to get to my house. They just flashlight searched my neighborhood for looters. Gas is impossible to get. Canned food sucks. Cigs are scarce. Alcohol is plentiful. If you dont own a generator, get one. I'm lucky to still have a house right now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1855919 Hugs to you - hope things are getting better, I spent most of life living at the Jersey Shore and hung out in Belmar throughout my 20's. This whole thing just breaks my heart. All of the places that ever meant anything to me (you know all the important memories) have been drastically changed. Every time a new place pops up in my head it's followed by the realization that the place has either been destroyed or is currently a mess.....so so sad. indeed....this whole planet that has always meant everything to me has been destroyed. redwoods forests (where i grew up) destroyed, oceans destroyed, animals dying en masse... thanks, humanity, for being so stupid as to blame all of it on some politician, etc., yet doing NOTHING to step up and make a change when it MIGHT have made a difference, decades ago. you made your bed, sleep in it. if you can. |
Kiwi25 User ID: 26998938 New Zealand 11/04/2012 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both actually gasses. They are stored liquified under pressure. LPG is usually a mix of propane and butane. Sleeping with a butane can is completely serious..:-). I have a friend who had to do this while climbing mountains in South America. The combination of high altitude ( low pressure) and cold made their butane stoves useless. Once the canister is working the heat from burning will keep it going. I have butane cookers, butane lamps and a butane radiant heater. All designed for camping no doubt.. but perfect for quick and easy use in an emergency. They have pezo ( spark) lighting which is very convenient too. Once set up I would tend to start using kerosene cookers, lamps ( either wick or pressure), and heaters. They all give out heat too.. an unwelcome by product in the summer... but great in the winter. Solar charged LED lights are great.. and not too expensive these days... but put out no heat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24710731 United States 11/09/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I keep reading that people were worried about losing refrigertated perishables. If it is cold outside, why aren't you all just putting your perishables out into a cold garage, keeping them inside your car trunk, or even putting them in a bag and hanging them outside a window? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3827795 United States 11/09/2012 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DID NOT WORK......I just made one the rocket can wood burners. No way can some one use them indoors. I would hate to try and make one in the dark and cold just to find it smoked you out of the house and ended up with big mess,cut and burnt hands.. Will tell more later, dinner burning. If I do not get the auto ban before I get back. |
SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 11/09/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DID NOT WORK......I just made one the rocket can wood burners. No way can some one use them indoors. I would hate to try and make one in the dark and cold just to find it smoked you out of the house and ended up with big mess,cut and burnt hands.. Will tell more later, dinner burning. If I do not get the auto ban before I get back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3827795 Try an indoor safe propane heater they work great |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19964681 United States 11/09/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22885018 Canada 11/09/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1110734 United States 11/09/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since Hurricane Sandy and the Nor'easter hit, preppers have been sending in detailed action reports of what worked and didn't work on Mr. Rawles Survival Blog. There's some very long intelligently written posts there. [link to www.survivalblog.com] There are several here: [link to www.survivalblog.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13974494 United States 11/09/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13974494 United States 11/09/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like an abandoned tin shack shithole. The houses in the background appear fine. Answer, stay away from tin shack shitholes. Actually it look like Breezy Point to me, but I could be wrong. A fire started and the strong winds just took it from house to house destroying a hundred or so in a very short time. |
SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 11/09/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1110734 United States 11/09/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DID NOT WORK......I just made one the rocket can wood burners. No way can some one use them indoors. I would hate to try and make one in the dark and cold just to find it smoked you out of the house and ended up with big mess,cut and burnt hands.. Will tell more later, dinner burning. If I do not get the auto ban before I get back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3827795 Rocket stoves are not meant for indoor use. They emit carbon monoxide. The only way you could use one would be in a fireplace with a good draft. I once watched a video on using a campstove that was intended for tent use. The only trouble was, the person hadn't read the instructions, and they'd didn't realize it would burn off the finish the first time it was lit, and so the fumes chased him out of his tent on a cold day. There's reasons you don't wait to practice for survival until it's needed. The only kind of rocket stove that can be utilized indoors in a rocket mass heater. See: [link to www.richsoil.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24235620 United States 11/11/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |