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So who's interested in scrying?

 
Cheshire~Cat
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So who's interested in scrying?
I'm here to help :)

With so many threads about "visions from jeebus!" etc etc etc....makes me facepalm in so many ways.

It's about time you guys get some real instruction.

What would you like to know?
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
The starting point is meditation. Tai-Chi, Qigong, Yoga. Make sure you're relaxed enough so that the itches don't affect you anymore and the thought forms that enter your mind are easily identified and done away with.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Scrying is a learned process. Don't expect overnight results.

This thread is for those who really want to open their eyes and see things for what they truly are.
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Once you're relaxed and do away with the nonsense, create a place for yourself in the astral realm. It can be anywhere, but what is important is you have to realize it's invulnerability.

Noone can penetrate it. It is your space. Noone even notices it other than you.

Once this place is established, enter it upon leaving your body.

It can be a landscape, a zen garden, a house, whatever you're comfortable with. You're the creator.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/01/2012 10:01 PM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Establish your astral body upon entering, creating and exploring your own space. Legs; no big deal. You don't need them.

Arms and hands however are important as you create sigils and symbols. So imagining yourself in a robe would be helpful.

Hold your arms and hands out in front of you. Move them with your eyes, not with your physical muscles.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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I think this guy is a bot, but...

It's a real situation for a lot of people...

Thread: Money for family
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Once everyone is established to this point, I will continue to elaborate on how to actually scry.

I welcome any questions or comments.
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Scrying opens you up to the demonic, without many even realizing it.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
I think this guy is a bot, but...

It's a real situation for a lot of people...

Thread: Money for family
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


This is so besides the point. Fine. I'll see what I can do.
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Scrying opens you up to the demonic, without many even realizing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26738574


No. This is pure ignorance. Do it, and get back with me.

Religitards, Jeebustards are not welcome. This is for people who want to evolve.

Even in your own bible, all your prophets were all scryers.

Read Genesis 44:5 "Isn't this the cup my master drinks from and also uses for divination? This is a wicked thing you have done.'"

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/02/2012 10:29 AM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Once you're firmly established in your astral space and your body (which takes months or even years), you need to research evocation or invocation. Whichever you're most comfortable with.

Invocation is looking while evocation is summoning.

In your astral space, create for yourself a very large black mirror.

You can either enter this mirror or invoke/evoke an entity from there.

This is where we get into actual Enochian magick.

This is not for beginners.

I have revealed to all of you how to get to the point where you can speak to actual angels. Michael, Raphael, etc. And where Enochian magick starts.

Once you're firmly established to this point, this is where the Enochian calls and sigils are used to establish the energies that are present.

I have spilled the beans. If you truly want to advance beyond this point, I would refer you to John Dee's 5 books of mysteries and Crowley's works.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/01/2012 10:18 PM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
fourtunately (or not) I seem to be intrested in everything (and nothing)

first though, what is scrying, crying with snot comming out at the same time? j/k its the mirror staring right?


I dont know why Im here.. I should be meditating.. got less than 10hrs total so far. anyway, maybe after a few hundred more I will be more interested..

Im not so sure.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
fourtunately (or not) I seem to be intrested in everything (and nothing)

first though, what is scrying, crying with snot comming out at the same time? j/k its the mirror staring right?


I dont know why Im here.. I should be meditating.. got less than 10hrs total so far. anyway, maybe after a few hundred more I will be more interested..

Im not so sure.
 Quoting: 272 1105272


Perhaps this will give your meditation a purpose. Meditators, deep down, are all scryers. Searching.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/01/2012 10:20 PM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Scrying is facinating stuff.
I don't mind the threads about Jebus though.
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Scrying is facinating stuff.
I don't mind the threads about Jebus though.
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You should try it. It takes much discipline, but is well worth it.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/02/2012 10:29 AM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Do you use tools or just your body?

How's it work for you?
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
at this point, I think its A11 in The Mind. or rather A11 IS Mind but Im still not so sure.
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
Do you use tools or just your body?

How's it work for you?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


You can use tools if you wish. I recommend Saint Michael candles. And of course, the shewstone "crystal ball". :D

You only have to be in alpha to use those tools though.

What works much, much better is if you're in your astral body and aware of your own creation as I illustrated earlier on.

Once you get into actual Enochian, you need the tablet, ring, etc. But the Angels for the most part will tell you what you need. It's personal to everyone.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/02/2012 09:22 AM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Hey, maybe even you "nobody" worshippers on here can figure out the things you're looking for if they go this route.

Every nobody post on this website grieves me. And how people get so sucked into a concept like that; it's a mix of pity and indigestion.

And then they get into their own weird concepts of "I'm the reincarnated merlin" bullshit and they think that they know who's who in conjuction with the role playing that they're doing. It fools a lot of people.

I look at it as a circus act. It is beyond reprehensible.

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/01/2012 10:58 PM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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I know but it's like a train wreck...can't help but break your neck to get a look at it...

shocked

LOL...I rarely know where I am these days...but thanks for the tips...

You know how I find stuff?...I swirl my hands around like a nutter while I look around and usually just feel where it is...

Works for me...dunno how but it does.

hf
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Do you use tools or just your body?

How's it work for you?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


You can use tools if you wish. I recommend Saint Michael candles. And of course, the "crystal ball". :D

You only have to be in alpha to use those tools though.

What works much, much better is if you're in your astral body and aware of your own creation as I illustrated earlier on.

Once you get into actual Enochian, you need the tablet, ring, etc. But the Angels for the most part will tell you what you need. It's personal to everyone.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
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Do you use tools or just your body?

How's it work for you?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


You can use tools if you wish. I recommend Saint Michael candles. And of course, the "crystal ball". :D

You only have to be in alpha to use those tools though.

What works much, much better is if you're in your astral body and aware of your own creation as I illustrated earlier on.

Once you get into actual Enochian, you need the tablet, ring, etc. But the Angels for the most part will tell you what you need. It's personal to everyone.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
 Quoting: AGC


When it comes to entering alpha, the line is blurry for me. The meditative state is what it is. I simply associate it with alpha, but, who cares once you're at the place you want to be?
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Do you use tools or just your body?

How's it work for you?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


You can use tools if you wish. I recommend Saint Michael candles. And of course, the "crystal ball". :D

You only have to be in alpha to use those tools though.

What works much, much better is if you're in your astral body and aware of your own creation as I illustrated earlier on.

Once you get into actual Enochian, you need the tablet, ring, etc. But the Angels for the most part will tell you what you need. It's personal to everyone.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
 Quoting: AGC


When it comes to entering alpha, the line is blurry for me. The meditative state is what it is. I simply associate it with alpha, but, who cares once you're at the place you want to be?
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


There's next to no sentient retention in alpha. That is the daemonic doorway, so to speak. You don't know what you're letting in or what unconscious alterations it may make.

Fortunately, God does. God knows everything. So it can actually be pretty fun to invite all the fuck-ups inside. Can you say ambulatory ghost-trap? haha
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There's next to no sentient retention in alpha. That is the daemonic doorway, so to speak. You don't know what you're letting in or what unconscious alterations it may make.

Fortunately, God does. God knows everything. So it can actually be pretty fun to invite all the fuck-ups inside. Can you say ambulatory ghost-trap? haha
 Quoting: AGC


I think you're confusing necromancy with Enochian :)
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Never heard of it.
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There's next to no sentient retention in alpha. That is the daemonic doorway, so to speak. You don't know what you're letting in or what unconscious alterations it may make.

Fortunately, God does. God knows everything. So it can actually be pretty fun to invite all the fuck-ups inside. Can you say ambulatory ghost-trap? haha
 Quoting: AGC


I think you're confusing necromancy with Enochian :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


That is a seriously dirty name. You want the Vril Society to come around and measure your bullshit vibrational frequency? Might as well test your thetan levels while you're at it... Except those tests actually have some remote basis in fact.

Those idiots are all completely Hellbound. Just fair warning.
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Never heard of it.
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Until now :)

I have to get to bed. Goodnight GLP'ers and remember: Love thy neighbor.
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~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Those idiots are all completely Hellbound. Just fair warning.
 Quoting: AGC


Look, I'm good to go my friend :)

I have won every battle. Rule of 3. (not to say it wasn't a pain in the ass).

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You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
 Quoting: AGC


Could you elaborate here?

What part of 'the Fall' was Enoch incorrect at interpreting?

I find this story fascinating and have done some research on it.

:)
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Re: So who's interested in scrying?
You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
 Quoting: AGC


Could you elaborate here?

What part of 'the Fall' was Enoch incorrect at interpreting?

I find this story fascinating and have done some research on it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He wasn't incorrect. The fallen were jealous.
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Scrying opens you up to the demonic, without many even realizing it.
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Anything you so with the "other side" opens you up to everything. Not just demons. If your heart and soul are in the right place, you will be fine.





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