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So who's interested in scrying?

 
Cheshire~Cat (OP)

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Scrying opens you up to the demonic, without many even realizing it.
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Anything you so with the "other side" opens you up to everything. Not just demons. If your heart and soul are in the right place, you will be fine.
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You, sir, are evolved. Thank you :)
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You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
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Could you elaborate here?

What part of 'the Fall' was Enoch incorrect at interpreting?

I find this story fascinating and have done some research on it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He wasn't incorrect. The fallen were jealous.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Well, I see the 'fallen' as they who imparted knowledge to Mankind.

Which I assume was their purpose in coming here...


Whether laying with human women or the progeny which followed was the unforgivable act against God, to warrant such a punishment one could never know.

Until the is...one hears the proper story.

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You wanna be in theta for all this stuff. And don't attach that dirty name to magic... Enoch did more to sully the works of God than all those abominations of God he so loved to spread lies about. You'll never know the real story of the fallen from just that one horrible perspective.
 Quoting: AGC


Could you elaborate here?

What part of 'the Fall' was Enoch incorrect at interpreting?

I find this story fascinating and have done some research on it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He wasn't incorrect. The fallen were jealous.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Well, I see the 'fallen' as they who imparted knowledge to Mankind.

Which I assume was their purpose in coming here...


Whether laying with human women or the progeny which followed was the unforgivable act against God, to warrant such a punishment one could never know.

Until the is...one hears the proper story.

:)
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And this is where the bigger picture comes into play. They serve the Divine. They don't even like us, but their purpose is played out in the only way they can play it out. They are jealous, but they know that they serve a bigger purpose in the long run.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Could you elaborate here?

What part of 'the Fall' was Enoch incorrect at interpreting?

I find this story fascinating and have done some research on it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He wasn't incorrect. The fallen were jealous.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Well, I see the 'fallen' as they who imparted knowledge to Mankind.

Which I assume was their purpose in coming here...


Whether laying with human women or the progeny which followed was the unforgivable act against God, to warrant such a punishment one could never know.

Until the is...one hears the proper story.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


And this is where the bigger picture comes into play. They serve the Divine. They don't even like us, but their purpose is played out in the only way they can play it out. They are jealous, but they know that they serve a bigger purpose in the long run.
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Hence why I asked this some time ago...



REVELATION 9:1-11

And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key of the shaft of the Abyss; 2 he opened the shaft of the Abyss and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. 3 Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth; 4 they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads




Key sentence there...why would those from the Abyss NOT harm Gods people if they were against God?

hmm
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vortex
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There's next to no sentient retention in alpha. That is the daemonic doorway, so to speak. You don't know what you're letting in or what unconscious alterations it may make.

Fortunately, God does. God knows everything. So it can actually be pretty fun to invite all the fuck-ups inside. Can you say ambulatory ghost-trap? haha
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WTF is this nonsense?

You might as well play the Nightmare on Elm Street card.. Are you afraid of sleeping too?


Edit: this is really making me want to investigate the First Council of Nicaea, A.D. 325 in great detail. People just don't know what has happened..
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Cheshire Cat, I am very interested in scrying, since reading the works of Nostradamus. Please PM me if this thread gets too off topic, I REALLY want to learn!
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REVELATION 9:1-11

And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key of the shaft of the Abyss; 2 he opened the shaft of the Abyss and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. 3 Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth; 4 they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads


Key sentence there...why would those from the Abyss NOT harm Gods people if they were against God?

 Quoting: Seer777


Whose against God in your question... the Locusts or the people with the seal?

I do believe the people with the seal are for God... not against.

Seal of God = For God
Mark of Beast = Against God

As a side note...

The locusts are just following orders, which in fact could be a pre-programmed deal... like bees.

Bees have a natural instinct to not harm flowers etc, but will 'sting' when provoked (power of Scorpions).

Smoke is often used in bee keeping to keep the bees 'asleep'. When the smoke clears, the bees 'awaken'. Thus, when the smoke from the 'pit' (beehive) dissipates, look out!

scream

Personally, I believe all this to be a metaphor for a sort of 'bio-weapon', designed to harm a specific DNA type.

This DNA type may in fact be immortal... or 'zombie' like, in that these men seek death and cannot die.

zombies

:harvest bees:

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Whose against God in your question...
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They whom are stung...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Whose against God in your question...
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


They whom are stung...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah yes.

Well, you know me and my wild theories, so here goes...

Further along we read...

"7) And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

8) And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9) And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10) And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."


I personally believe that these 'horses' are related to the Four Horsemen somehow.

I have some research suggesting that the horses may in fact be a representation of 'Alchemy' or in modern terms... Genetic Engineering.

Here is an example...

unclemikey-189

We see just about everything mentioned in the above verses in the image...

*) Horses
*) 'Crown of Gold' on the Retort (bottle)
*) Long hair, sharp teeth, wings

...and the best part is the Angel, Apollyon who is of course the 'Master Magickian Alchemist'.

My take is the the 'Seal of God' is in fact 'code' for our normal DNA that we are all currently born with.

Those that decide to alter their genetic makeup are considered GMO and will be dealt with accordingly by the Locusts.

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By the way Cheshire~Cat, I don't mean to derail.

I actually had a question for you.

Would you mind sharing some of the personal things you do with Scrying?

I picture you maybe using it to predict future events or maybe find a better job? I don't really know what it could be used for.

If I were to be a bit selfish, I'd want to use it to find lost treasure... but as a Jebus man myself, I believe it would be a no no.

tounge
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Whose against God in your question...
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


They whom are stung...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah yes.

Well, you know me and my wild theories, so here goes...

Further along we read...

"7) And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold,


and their faces were as the faces of men.


8) And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9) And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10) And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."


 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


This is how I saw it just now.

Take it for what it is.

Interpretation...


Locust=great in number

Prepared for battle=Ready to do Gods WILL

Crowns of Gold=Halos

Faces of Men=Angels

Breast plates=Armor

Wings=ANGELS

Power to hurt men=Judgement or Harvest


Eye to SEE, and Ears to Hear...



HarvestTime

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Whose against God in your question...
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


They whom are stung...
 Quoting: Seer777


Ah yes.

Well, you know me and my wild theories, so here goes...

Further along we read...

"7) And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold,


and their faces were as the faces of men.


8) And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

9) And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

10) And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."


 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


This is how I saw it just now.

Take it for what it is.

Interpretation...


Locust=great in number

Prepared for battle=Ready to do Gods WILL

Crowns of Gold=Halos

Faces of Men=Angels

Breast plates=Armor

Wings=ANGELS

Power to hurt men=Judgement or Harvest


Eye to SEE, and Ears to Hear...



HarvestTime
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I like that a lot Seer. Harvest time is something I like to study.

goofy thum
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I like that a lot Seer. Harvest time is something I like to study.

goofy thum
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Sure thing...


I am hoping AGC will answer the question I posed him, being that I have long pondered on the Book of Enoch.

And some things which don't sit well with that particular telling...if you will.


If offered an opportunity to hear anothers perspective on that which I am interested, I hope to take to advantage. Especially, with some of the brilliant people I find on this forum.

AGC being one of them.


After all, if we are not here to learn, talk and have fun, then what is the point?

:)
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This is fascinating to me, but I don't even know how to walk, let alone fly into scrying.

How about some Mediation 101 advice? What's a good way to even begin meditating?

I'm not even sure what I should do... how to sit, how to breath, etc. I don't have any friends or relatives that practice this, and, strange to say, I actually trust the good folks of GLP more than trying to find a teacher in my area.

Advice for a complete novice would be welcome! Thank you!
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After all, if we are not here to learn, talk and have fun, then what is the point?

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After all, if we are not here to learn, talk and have fun, then what is the point?

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applause2
 Quoting: ~Apparitions~


:)



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CAn I just take shrooms and do it by brute force? I'm too hyped up on coffee to ever let my thoughts relax. Need to quit coffee I guess.
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YES! Ive been experiencing the feeling of complete light, but i still felt held down physically, when i use my mind I literally feel myself levitating out of my own body. But to experience it for so long, and now finally hear someone describe the somewhat same is warming. What do you recommend for putting myself in that stage without failed attempts? peace
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Hence why I asked this some time ago...



REVELATION 9:1-11

And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key of the shaft of the Abyss; 2 he opened the shaft of the Abyss and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft. 3 Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth; 4 they were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green growth or any tree, but only those of mankind who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads




Key sentence there...why would those from the Abyss NOT harm Gods people if they were against God?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


vortex
 Quoting: Seer777


when we apply 21st century knowing to abyess
it is spot on
you consciously go with it
because you see where it goes

when you apply knowing of abyess from 20 years ago backwards for 5000 years or more

i don`t know what happens

i can not imagine the sensations
because there is no reality (structure)
to form imagination around
 Quoting: aether


okay
we are in the great pryamid

from there we translate to fit
 Quoting: aether

Thread: The platonic solids are BUILDING again! (Page 4)

translates to:

we know today what was known by others before god, as currently believed, was imagined

we fit what we know today into what was believed because there exists nothing (no reality) within what is believed to resist our doing so

hence the prophesy becomes true

the imagined god (s) is/are overwhelmed/erazed
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this thread makes me scry...
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Yo OP, I dont usually bait on these types of threads but I'm getting quite a frustrated.

I'v been trying to scry (or enter the astral-plain) for over a year now.
I'v tried bineural beats, smoking a fat blunt (different blends), different sleeping positions and going to sleep on different times (to try to trick the body).
-but it just doesn't work.

I know sometimes trying too hard is the problem but there are plenty of nights where I'm just laying in my bed, with my mind totally calmed (0 thoughts), just listening to the noise in my ears that comes when it's totally quiet and concentrating on my breathing. BUT STILL... I lay like this for hour and bit more... but I get no tingly feeling, no sleep paralysis...

Any ideas?
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the Cheshire cat was the most untrustworthy entity in AIW

and so was/is john dee and edward kelly

both were/are liars thieves and went to prison for duping the public

you sir are nothing more than that

the Enochian is shit just like your work

take it as you will little kitty

but i know you are a bull shitter just like jon/dee and gay kelly
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Traditional evocation in the method of the key of Solomon requires ridiculous amounts of preparation and support.
Start with an army, forge your sacramental blade, adorn yourself properly, create the proper symbols, prepare yourself and train for a year before hand, and finally perform the ritual and summon the Angel or Demon.
Astral conjuring in phantom mirrors will only bring out what you already carry within. You will know you are ready to do something more substantial when the phantom mirror is empty.
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the Cheshire cat was the most untrustworthy entity in AIW

and so was/is john dee and edward kelly

both were/are liars thieves and went to prison for duping the public

you sir are nothing more than that

the Enochian is shit just like your work

take it as you will little kitty

but i know you are a bull shitter just like jon/dee and gay kelly
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What are you, Catholic?
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Traditional evocation in the method of the key of Solomon requires ridiculous amounts of preparation and support.
Start with an army, forge your sacramental blade, adorn yourself properly, create the proper symbols, prepare yourself and train for a year before hand, and finally perform the ritual and summon the Angel or Demon.
Astral conjuring in phantom mirrors will only bring out what you already carry within. You will know you are ready to do something more substantial when the phantom mirror is empty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225


Concerning traditional evocation, yes. This is more or less a beginner's course, as I could write a book on either the Solomon methods, or Enochian.

I'm simply hoping that someone out there will at least start to meditate and create a space for themselves. At least realize that these so called prophecies all over this web site can be verified. Once you see what's out there, all of that stuff becomes laughable.

You would need about a dozen threads on this process. This would be thread #1 :)

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~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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CAn I just take shrooms and do it by brute force? I'm too hyped up on coffee to ever let my thoughts relax. Need to quit coffee I guess.
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Sure.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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This is fascinating to me, but I don't even know how to walk, let alone fly into scrying.

How about some Mediation 101 advice? What's a good way to even begin meditating?

I'm not even sure what I should do... how to sit, how to breath, etc. I don't have any friends or relatives that practice this, and, strange to say, I actually trust the good folks of GLP more than trying to find a teacher in my area.

Advice for a complete novice would be welcome! Thank you!
 Quoting: Nyte


Sign up for a good Tai Chi course at your local college. Or if you want to learn with DVD's; Gaiam makes some good ones.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Traditional evocation in the method of the key of Solomon requires ridiculous amounts of preparation and support.
Start with an army, forge your sacramental blade, adorn yourself properly, create the proper symbols, prepare yourself and train for a year before hand, and finally perform the ritual and summon the Angel or Demon.
Astral conjuring in phantom mirrors will only bring out what you already carry within. You will know you are ready to do something more substantial when the phantom mirror is empty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225


Concerning traditional evocation, yes. This is more or less a beginner's course, as I could write a book on either the Solomon methods, or Enochian.

I'm simply hoping that someone out there will at least start to meditate and create a space for themselves. At least realize that these so called prophecies all over this web site can be verified. Once you see what's out there, all of that stuff becomes laughable.

You would need about a dozen threads on this process. This would be thread #1 :)
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Yes the experience possible in the astral realm is useful for very simple observances. The real trick is to evolve methods easily operable in waking states. To discover the process and method of creating new practices of manifestation should be the goal.
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Yo OP, I dont usually bait on these types of threads but I'm getting quite a frustrated.

I'v been trying to scry (or enter the astral-plain) for over a year now.
I'v tried bineural beats, smoking a fat blunt (different blends), different sleeping positions and going to sleep on different times (to try to trick the body).
-but it just doesn't work.

I know sometimes trying too hard is the problem but there are plenty of nights where I'm just laying in my bed, with my mind totally calmed (0 thoughts), just listening to the noise in my ears that comes when it's totally quiet and concentrating on my breathing. BUT STILL... I lay like this for hour and bit more... but I get no tingly feeling, no sleep paralysis...

Any ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1579473


You probably need to do some energy work. Some Tai Chi or Qigong.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.

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